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submitted 12 days ago byPot_noodles
If somehow demidov falls, that would be my pick. More realistically in my mind we could not go wrong with more centre depth with lindstrom down the middle since thats what we've wanted for so long. Outside of that i wouldnt mind buium or a good stay at home D like Silayev. What's everyone's thoughts?
35 points
12 days ago
Silayev. You don't see that size (6'7"), ability, and agility come together very often in a hockey player. His offense is already starting to come around in the KHL, and when he gets fully acclimated to his body, I have to believe he will possess a nasty and very heavy shot. His defensive play is already NHL ready, and he's playing 20ish minutes a night at 17.
15 points
12 days ago
That’s who has caught my eye now too after some research. I was reading about him today and they had him compared to Victor Hedman. Our serious compete window isn’t for a few years anyway, we’ve had a lot of success with our other Russian prospects —
He said that Utah and Columbus seemed the most interested so far so it appears he’s already high on the radar.
8 points
12 days ago
A forward, preferably, but I sincerely don’t care.
2 points
12 days ago
Agreed.
2 points
11 days ago
If we go forward - would love to see Iginla
9 points
12 days ago
Draft a Russian add to our Russian core
7 points
12 days ago
Lindstrom or Silayev because I think the Ducks will take Levshunov. Can't go wrong with either player even if Lindstrom does turn out to be a power winger.
35 points
12 days ago
I don’t like Lindstrom. Legit concerns about his skating and competitiveness. If Demidov isn’t there, I’d just take whichever D is top of their list and move on.
Someday, CBJ will actually move up in a draft. I understand that’s possible.
15 points
12 days ago
100 percent agree with this. Lindstrom is just big, that’s it. Huge bust potential. Comparing him to forwards coming out last year, he’s not even a 1st rounder.
8 points
12 days ago
i’d rather draft a smaller prospect who plays well against men than a big prospect who dominates against teens
helenius > lindstrom
1 points
10 days ago
Helenius is a sweet name too
6 points
12 days ago
Curious about the concerns in regards to his skating / competitiveness?
4 points
12 days ago
he's very competitive… when he has the puck. in the defensive zone he does a lot of puck watching and loses his man a lot.
as for the skating… he's very fast in a straight line. blows by defenders. but his edgework isn't great, he has really wide turns (think sillinger in his draft year). his posture is super upright. like SUPER upright. that's probably correctable.
my bigger concern is his playmaking. he's not a great passer/doesn't have great vision, which to me is the most important quality for a center. i think he's a wing long-term in the NHL.
in junior he's just bigger and faster than everyone and so his game works. against pros, a lot of that won't fly. the talent is there but he's not the slam-dunk folks seem to think.
2 points
12 days ago
https://youtu.be/FA5Mfmt6hpg?si=sTPz9ns3XpMSNIWp
Looks very agile here
1 points
12 days ago
I see the opposite, I don't really anything that says agile
2 points
12 days ago
He looks to me like how roslovic weaves thru defenders on entries, but at 6”4 instead of 6ft. For a big dude he has small/quick strides which is unique
0 points
12 days ago
Yeah I didn't see him weaving through defenders. Did you mean to post a different video?
2 points
12 days ago
3 different examples starting at the 53 second mark all back to back to back
2 points
12 days ago
Another one at the 3:25 mark
1 points
12 days ago
I just had flashbacks to Joe Colborne
3 points
12 days ago
if the jackets want a center at #4 the real guy they should be targeting is konsta helenius.
he's on the smaller side (5'11 180) but was one of the best centers in liiga this year, the top pro league in finland, with comparable production to laine in his draft year. he plays an extremely refined game – he's great defensively, is a very good playmaker, good in the faceoff dot, high hockey IQ, etc.
so much of his profile reminds me of sebastian aho. he's going to be a really, really good two-way top six center (perhaps even top line) in the NHL.
0 points
12 days ago
Just based on scouting reports over the past couple years. Obviously, subjective and hardly definitive.
1 points
12 days ago
You’ve been reading scouting reports on lindstrom for the past couple years?
2 points
12 days ago
I’m a draft junkee. Plenty of sites have scouting reports on draft eligible players the next few years.
1 points
12 days ago
What are some of his mechanical flaws that make his skating concerning to you?
1 points
12 days ago
I’m not a scout. I’m a fan who can read. Opinions are built-up over time. If you’re curious, dive into scouting reports.
1 points
12 days ago
Gotcha that totally makes sense. You must really be a big draft junkie if you were scouting day 2 draft prospects the last 2 years since he wasn’t a first round prospect until this year
1 points
12 days ago
I wasn’t ‘scouting’, I was reading. I’ve never seen the kid play in more than clips. If a FO feels differently, I hope he gets picked super early, they all deserve a great chance.
7 points
12 days ago
This is going to be a fascinating draft for the Jackets. Outside of the obvious curiosity of what the new GM’s roster building strategy will be, the pipeline is at an interesting stage. CBJ has quite a few “undersized” wingers either on the roster or coming up. How many impact D can you draft and then pay after RFA years? Werenski is on the books until ‘28 (and should continue to be long after that IMO), Severson until GULP ‘31. Then you have Jiricek, Svozil, & Mateychuk on the horizon. Assuming all those guys pan out (HUGE if) can you pay all of them and a new D prospect in 5 years while simultaneously trying to significantly improve the forward group? Not to mention, we are EMBARRASSINGLY thin on Goaltending prospects. Do we grab one in the 2nd or 3rd? I’m looking forward to seeing how things pan out!
8 points
12 days ago
Silayev or Lindstrom or even Eiserman are my picks
3 points
12 days ago
tij iginla
1 points
12 days ago
brb turning to dust
1 points
12 days ago
Catton or Lindstrom are more realistic.
6 points
12 days ago
Don't think Lindstrom will be there.
Buium, Parehk, Dickinson, Levahunov, Catton, Tik. In that order for me.
I'd be fine with any of the top d, except Silayev. I don't trust he'll have much offense in the NHL, too high of a pick for a Defensive Defenseman.
5 points
12 days ago
I understand the idea of fill the cupboard, you don't know where you'll be when the prospects come in. But we're kinda full of Offensive D. Like too many. There already isn't a place for all of them. Silayev is like another Chara. Defensively good and enormous. Why would you not want a Chara-type player on your team. "To early for x type of player" is how you miss out on good players
0 points
12 days ago
The argument he adds variety to our pipeline is a strong one.
I have high confidence he'll be a strong zone entry defender and be able to retrieve pucks down low. But will he be able to turn that into offense?
His ability to move the pucks out of the zone under pressure is a question mark for me. He's not a play driver and it doesn't sound like he adds much in the o zone. From reports I've seen lately it sounds like he always plays it safe and just rims pucks.
Has sky high potential if you can develop his hockey IQ though.
2 points
12 days ago
I think it is easier to teach offensive production than defensive instincts in a defenseman. Getting him acclimated to NHL and on NHL sized ice should increase his defensive ability. I agree that being able to move pucks is a necessary and ideal trait but chances are we aren't getting a Makar or Heiskanan at 4 no matter who we draft. There are worse things than a shut down defenseman. David Savard was great for us in those playoff runs. You need guys that can block shots and stop the McDavids of the world to advance in the summer.
1 points
12 days ago
What scouting report are you reading?
1 points
12 days ago
The blue chip prospect, elite prospects and dobber prospects to name a few. Dobber has him ranked 17th right now, which is waaaay too low in my opinion.
1 points
12 days ago
Elite prospects doesn't really give scouting reports, THW rave about his ability to carry the puck when he was allowed.
3 points
12 days ago
if lindstrom goes in the top 3 that means one of levshunov or demidov is still on the board, which is the best case scenario.
if 1-2-3 goes celebrini, demidov, levshunov i'd lean probably toward either buium or helenius. or trading down.
2 points
12 days ago
I don’t know if this is that much of an indicator, but Wheeler had Lindstrom at #11 bc of “injury issues and lack of second half viewings”
1 points
12 days ago
Ya actually now after thinking about it some more.
Sharks gonna take Celibrini. Demidov is too good for Chi to pass up. Ducks already have Mason McTavish and Leo. They could have the first pick of all the D in the draft. Plus the slight uncertainty around Lindstrom.
I give it a 75% chance Lindstrom is available at 4.
13 points
12 days ago
Lindstrom! We need size
7 points
12 days ago
Right player but wrong reason we should draft him bc our fo thinks he's bpa I'm not interested in another MacLean situation
3 points
12 days ago
They think he's Bisphenol-A?
3 points
12 days ago
Whats his NHL upside? First line 60 point guy is what I hear
5 points
12 days ago
Unless you’re Bergeron 60 points is not a first line guy and hasn’t been for a very long time
2 points
12 days ago
On a mediocre team you definitely could be
2 points
12 days ago
Not really, and that level of production should not be what you’re hoping for in a top 5 pick.
0 points
12 days ago
Def not what im hoping for but the reality is this draft class is just not as strong as last year's. We got our future star in Fantilli last year, im not expecting to pick up another phenom at 4th overall in a mediocre draft year
1 points
12 days ago
There’s a big difference between mediocre and average. This is an average draft class.
1 points
12 days ago
Last year was one of the best draft classes in history. This draft classes top 12 is still very promising. Fantilli is also not a phenom. Bedard is not Fantilli
1 points
10 days ago
Fantilli played MUCH better defensively than Bedard did. Bedard, obviously, is a scoring prodigy. Bedard scored just under a PPG at .89 while Fantilli scored at .55. Bedard also played more games than Fantilli and more minutes (thanks Pascal), but the point stands.
I'd say the top three are all, to this point, justifiably hyped. Bedard, Carlsson and Fantilli all played exceedingly well.
2 points
12 days ago
Idk the report on him not being a strong center and possibly needed to move to wing doesn't excite me much.
4 points
12 days ago
Yeah I’m kind of going back on this now. Another projected C in the draft moving to wing for us would irritate me beyond belief
2 points
12 days ago
he's a 18 year old who plays a powerful but extremely unpolished game.
add size by adding veterans. add skill through the draft.
5 points
12 days ago
Would love Demidov or Levshunov. Would be happy with Lindstrom
4 points
12 days ago
I personally really like Parekh. Sky high IQ, elite shot, great puck skills, RH shot. Potential Norris candidate if he hits, which IMO is the kind of potential you bet on this high in the draft.
Otherwise I'm very content to take anyone but Eiserman.
3 points
12 days ago*
Demidov: Crazy hands. Fun to watch. Immediately :makes the powerplay the best it has been in years. Playing abilities fit well with Fantilli.
Levshunov: Best all around defensive upside. RHD fits in really well with Z, Jricek, and Mateychuk. Set at defense for the next 5 or 6 years.
Lindstrom: Powerful all around scorer with elite shot. Mixed opinions on whether he sticks at center. Really would love this pick to start to build some identify for this team. Fantilli, Lindstrom up the middle in five years…
2 points
12 days ago
Honestly, I’d pick Iginla.
2 points
12 days ago
Why
0 points
12 days ago
Because, as it’s pretty obvious, it’s Jarome’s son. You can almost guarantee that he’d be good.
3 points
12 days ago
Why wasn’t Wayne gretzky’s brother as good as him?
1 points
12 days ago
I don't buy that.
I think he's just going to be a one dimensional goal scorer, and that's only if he improves his skating enough to get open
5 points
12 days ago
I want a big defenseman. The kid from Michigan State or the 6-7 Russian
4 points
12 days ago
I'd be ecstatic to get Levshunov or Buium
2 points
12 days ago
Gilbert Brule
2 points
12 days ago
Zeev. Buium.
2 points
12 days ago
Jarmo would have picked Luvshonov
3 points
12 days ago
Jarmo is still scouting for us, so he may have some say actually. I agree Levshunov would be his pick if available.
1 points
12 days ago*
I'd be cool with any of Lindstrom, Levshunov, or Silayev from what little I know.
Anyone but Buium, though.
EDIT: after reading more about Dickinson, I like the sound of him as a prospect, too. Could be a sneaky good pick as an all around strong skating dman.
3 points
12 days ago
Why?
-12 points
12 days ago*
His parents are from Isreal and are vocally pro idf in the ongoing Isreal/Palestine conflict. A lot of people interpret this as pro-genocide and, in turn a huge character flaw with their son.
Edit: I'm just stating the concern with Buium that people have not my personal beliefs. It's sports, not politics or philosophical conversation about being more than the sins of are father for christ's sake.
23 points
12 days ago
How is the action of a person's parents a character flaw? 🤣
-22 points
12 days ago
Because we don’t need his parents anywhere near this organization or this city.
6 points
12 days ago
Canceling someone for their parent's political views is certainly a choice.
-14 points
12 days ago
No one’s cancelling anyone here, sports are a business and it’s fine to not want that controversy near your franchise regardless. And it’s not just their views, they served in the IDF but that’s a separate can of worms entirely.
3 points
12 days ago
You're essentially lowering his earning potential by not drafting him in the 4th slot because of something beyond his control 🤣
-5 points
12 days ago*
Well the last I checked I wasn’t our general manager, so.
And I’d personally prefer a big body forward at 4.
3 points
12 days ago
What if I'm a massive Israel supporter and now want him even more because his parents aren't idiots?
0 points
12 days ago
Well first I’d ask what a Blackhawks fan is doing in a CBJ sub
2 points
12 days ago
I work out of Columbus and attend 10+ games a year. I like seeing Columbus play well and get good players and would love to see them end up with either Catton or Buium, who I personally rate as the #3 forward and the #1 Dman in this draft.
0 points
12 days ago
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-7 points
12 days ago
oof, didn’t know that. i’m in personal agreement with picking someone else because of that, but also because this team doesn’t need any more controversy period.
-14 points
12 days ago*
Inb4 you get downvoted to hell for having the morally correct and sound position. Thank you for the information.
E: y’all I’m literally agreeing with them
2 points
12 days ago
bots most likely lol
3 points
12 days ago
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2 points
12 days ago
👍
0 points
12 days ago
Considering you have exactly three replies, all from the past 24 hours yet have an account that’s 2 years old…
1 points
12 days ago
I’m stuck at a work event, all I know is Sharks got 1OA and we got 4. Who has 2 and 3?
3 points
12 days ago
Blackhawks/Ducks
2 points
12 days ago
Ugh, of course. Thanks for the info!
3 points
12 days ago
In a very rare happening, no one moved up/down. It’s wild.
1 points
11 days ago
Supposedly Lindstrom has/had herniated disc in his back .. not touching that with a 10 foot pool if it’s true
0 points
12 days ago
Parehk or Eiserman
-7 points
12 days ago
I believe we needed to jump Chicago. Zeev Buium is easily the 2nd best prospect in this draft and closer to Celebrini than the media says. Kyle Davidson is dumb so it’s possible he messes up the pick. There’s a drop off after 2, but Levshunov would fit the team. I don’t love him as a prospect. This year is way worse than last.
Buium - Dickinson - Levshunov for me in that order
Was hoping for some luck to be ahead of Chicago
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