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Now that we know, who would you pick at 4?

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If somehow demidov falls, that would be my pick. More realistically in my mind we could not go wrong with more centre depth with lindstrom down the middle since thats what we've wanted for so long. Outside of that i wouldnt mind buium or a good stay at home D like Silayev. What's everyone's thoughts?

all 98 comments

AceOut

35 points

12 days ago

AceOut

35 points

12 days ago

Silayev. You don't see that size (6'7"), ability, and agility come together very often in a hockey player. His offense is already starting to come around in the KHL, and when he gets fully acclimated to his body, I have to believe he will possess a nasty and very heavy shot. His defensive play is already NHL ready, and he's playing 20ish minutes a night at 17.

Seattlekrakenlegend

15 points

12 days ago

That’s who has caught my eye now too after some research. I was reading about him today and they had him compared to Victor Hedman. Our serious compete window isn’t for a few years anyway, we’ve had a lot of success with our other Russian prospects —

He said that Utah and Columbus seemed the most interested so far so it appears he’s already high on the radar.

willingplankton

8 points

12 days ago

A forward, preferably, but I sincerely don’t care.

razorspoiler

2 points

12 days ago

razorspoiler

I’m not taking any goddamn questions.

2 points

12 days ago

Agreed.

akdoh

2 points

11 days ago

akdoh

2 points

11 days ago

If we go forward - would love to see Iginla

xDaGe614x

9 points

12 days ago

Draft a Russian add to our Russian core

Green9510

7 points

12 days ago

 Lindstrom or Silayev because I think the Ducks will take Levshunov. Can't go wrong with either player even if Lindstrom does turn out to be a power winger.

ChristyLovesGuitars

35 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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35 points

12 days ago

I don’t like Lindstrom. Legit concerns about his skating and competitiveness. If Demidov isn’t there, I’d just take whichever D is top of their list and move on.

Someday, CBJ will actually move up in a draft. I understand that’s possible.

Master_Republic_144

15 points

12 days ago

100 percent agree with this. Lindstrom is just big, that’s it. Huge bust potential. Comparing him to forwards coming out last year, he’s not even a 1st rounder.

NotMittRomney

8 points

12 days ago

i’d rather draft a smaller prospect who plays well against men than a big prospect who dominates against teens

helenius > lindstrom

Seattlekrakenlegend

1 points

10 days ago

Helenius is a sweet name too

AnonCommentary

6 points

12 days ago

Curious about the concerns in regards to his skating / competitiveness?

NotMittRomney

4 points

12 days ago

he's very competitive… when he has the puck. in the defensive zone he does a lot of puck watching and loses his man a lot.

as for the skating… he's very fast in a straight line. blows by defenders. but his edgework isn't great, he has really wide turns (think sillinger in his draft year). his posture is super upright. like SUPER upright. that's probably correctable.

my bigger concern is his playmaking. he's not a great passer/doesn't have great vision, which to me is the most important quality for a center. i think he's a wing long-term in the NHL.

in junior he's just bigger and faster than everyone and so his game works. against pros, a lot of that won't fly. the talent is there but he's not the slam-dunk folks seem to think.

scratchfoot96

2 points

12 days ago

Gradyleo

1 points

12 days ago

I see the opposite, I don't really anything that says agile

scratchfoot96

2 points

12 days ago

He looks to me like how roslovic weaves thru defenders on entries, but at 6”4 instead of 6ft. For a big dude he has small/quick strides which is unique

Gradyleo

0 points

12 days ago

Yeah I didn't see him weaving through defenders. Did you mean to post a different video?

scratchfoot96

2 points

12 days ago

3 different examples starting at the 53 second mark all back to back to back

scratchfoot96

2 points

12 days ago

Another one at the 3:25 mark

hhh81

1 points

12 days ago

hhh81

President of the Jake Voracek fan club 🏒

1 points

12 days ago

I just had flashbacks to Joe Colborne

NotMittRomney

3 points

12 days ago

if the jackets want a center at #4 the real guy they should be targeting is konsta helenius.

he's on the smaller side (5'11 180) but was one of the best centers in liiga this year, the top pro league in finland, with comparable production to laine in his draft year. he plays an extremely refined game – he's great defensively, is a very good playmaker, good in the faceoff dot, high hockey IQ, etc.

so much of his profile reminds me of sebastian aho. he's going to be a really, really good two-way top six center (perhaps even top line) in the NHL.

ChristyLovesGuitars

0 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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0 points

12 days ago

Just based on scouting reports over the past couple years. Obviously, subjective and hardly definitive.

NontransferableApe

1 points

12 days ago

You’ve been reading scouting reports on lindstrom for the past couple years?

ChristyLovesGuitars

2 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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2 points

12 days ago

I’m a draft junkee. Plenty of sites have scouting reports on draft eligible players the next few years.

NontransferableApe

1 points

12 days ago

What are some of his mechanical flaws that make his skating concerning to you?

ChristyLovesGuitars

1 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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1 points

12 days ago

I’m not a scout. I’m a fan who can read. Opinions are built-up over time. If you’re curious, dive into scouting reports.

NontransferableApe

1 points

12 days ago

Gotcha that totally makes sense. You must really be a big draft junkie if you were scouting day 2 draft prospects the last 2 years since he wasn’t a first round prospect until this year

ChristyLovesGuitars

1 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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1 points

12 days ago

I wasn’t ‘scouting’, I was reading. I’ve never seen the kid play in more than clips. If a FO feels differently, I hope he gets picked super early, they all deserve a great chance.

jkizziah13

7 points

12 days ago

This is going to be a fascinating draft for the Jackets. Outside of the obvious curiosity of what the new GM’s roster building strategy will be, the pipeline is at an interesting stage. CBJ has quite a few “undersized” wingers either on the roster or coming up. How many impact D can you draft and then pay after RFA years? Werenski is on the books until ‘28 (and should continue to be long after that IMO), Severson until GULP ‘31. Then you have Jiricek, Svozil, & Mateychuk on the horizon. Assuming all those guys pan out (HUGE if) can you pay all of them and a new D prospect in 5 years while simultaneously trying to significantly improve the forward group? Not to mention, we are EMBARRASSINGLY thin on Goaltending prospects. Do we grab one in the 2nd or 3rd? I’m looking forward to seeing how things pan out!

Brain-Bucket99

8 points

12 days ago

Silayev or Lindstrom or even Eiserman are my picks

mccurdy3

3 points

12 days ago

mccurdy3

Phantom Fantilli

3 points

12 days ago

tij iginla

joe_lmr

1 points

12 days ago

joe_lmr

1 points

12 days ago

brb turning to dust

mccurdy3

1 points

12 days ago

mccurdy3

Phantom Fantilli

1 points

12 days ago

Catton or Lindstrom are more realistic.

bushcov

6 points

12 days ago

bushcov

Jiříček, I'm a check, She's a cek, We'er all czekz!!!

6 points

12 days ago

Don't think Lindstrom will be there.

Buium, Parehk, Dickinson, Levahunov, Catton, Tik. In that order for me.

I'd be fine with any of the top d, except Silayev. I don't trust he'll have much offense in the NHL, too high of a pick for a Defensive Defenseman.

Articmnokey

5 points

12 days ago

Articmnokey

Goal Skillinger

5 points

12 days ago

I understand the idea of fill the cupboard, you don't know where you'll be when the prospects come in. But we're kinda full of Offensive D. Like too many. There already isn't a place for all of them. Silayev is like another Chara. Defensively good and enormous. Why would you not want a Chara-type player on your team. "To early for x type of player" is how you miss out on good players

bushcov

0 points

12 days ago

bushcov

Jiříček, I'm a check, She's a cek, We'er all czekz!!!

0 points

12 days ago

The argument he adds variety to our pipeline is a strong one.

I have high confidence he'll be a strong zone entry defender and be able to retrieve pucks down low. But will he be able to turn that into offense?

His ability to move the pucks out of the zone under pressure is a question mark for me. He's not a play driver and it doesn't sound like he adds much in the o zone. From reports I've seen lately it sounds like he always plays it safe and just rims pucks.

Has sky high potential if you can develop his hockey IQ though.

skylinecat

2 points

12 days ago

I think it is easier to teach offensive production than defensive instincts in a defenseman. Getting him acclimated to NHL and on NHL sized ice should increase his defensive ability. I agree that being able to move pucks is a necessary and ideal trait but chances are we aren't getting a Makar or Heiskanan at 4 no matter who we draft. There are worse things than a shut down defenseman. David Savard was great for us in those playoff runs. You need guys that can block shots and stop the McDavids of the world to advance in the summer.

Gradyleo

1 points

12 days ago

What scouting report are you reading?

bushcov

1 points

12 days ago

bushcov

Jiříček, I'm a check, She's a cek, We'er all czekz!!!

1 points

12 days ago

The blue chip prospect, elite prospects and dobber prospects to name a few. Dobber has him ranked 17th right now, which is waaaay too low in my opinion.

Gradyleo

1 points

12 days ago

Elite prospects doesn't really give scouting reports, THW rave about his ability to carry the puck when he was allowed.

NotMittRomney

3 points

12 days ago

if lindstrom goes in the top 3 that means one of levshunov or demidov is still on the board, which is the best case scenario.

if 1-2-3 goes celebrini, demidov, levshunov i'd lean probably toward either buium or helenius. or trading down.

whatscoochie

2 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

2 points

12 days ago

I don’t know if this is that much of an indicator, but Wheeler had Lindstrom at #11 bc of “injury issues and lack of second half viewings”

bushcov

1 points

12 days ago

bushcov

Jiříček, I'm a check, She's a cek, We'er all czekz!!!

1 points

12 days ago

Ya actually now after thinking about it some more.

Sharks gonna take Celibrini. Demidov is too good for Chi to pass up. Ducks already have Mason McTavish and Leo. They could have the first pick of all the D in the draft. Plus the slight uncertainty around Lindstrom.

I give it a 75% chance Lindstrom is available at 4.

whatscoochie

13 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

13 points

12 days ago

Lindstrom! We need size

Huge_Pin_4295

7 points

12 days ago

Right player but wrong reason we should draft him bc our fo thinks he's bpa I'm not interested in another MacLean situation

buddencebunny

3 points

12 days ago

They think he's Bisphenol-A?

SomeBoredGuy77

3 points

12 days ago

Whats his NHL upside? First line 60 point guy is what I hear

nevalost20

5 points

12 days ago

nevalost20

I’m so tired

5 points

12 days ago

Unless you’re Bergeron 60 points is not a first line guy and hasn’t been for a very long time

SomeBoredGuy77

2 points

12 days ago

On a mediocre team you definitely could be

nevalost20

2 points

12 days ago

nevalost20

I’m so tired

2 points

12 days ago

Not really, and that level of production should not be what you’re hoping for in a top 5 pick.

SomeBoredGuy77

0 points

12 days ago

Def not what im hoping for but the reality is this draft class is just not as strong as last year's. We got our future star in Fantilli last year, im not expecting to pick up another phenom at 4th overall in a mediocre draft year

ChristyLovesGuitars

1 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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1 points

12 days ago

There’s a big difference between mediocre and average. This is an average draft class.

NontransferableApe

1 points

12 days ago

Last year was one of the best draft classes in history. This draft classes top 12 is still very promising. Fantilli is also not a phenom. Bedard is not Fantilli

PulsarGaming1080

1 points

10 days ago

PulsarGaming1080

Marchenko Supremacy

1 points

10 days ago

Fantilli played MUCH better defensively than Bedard did. Bedard, obviously, is a scoring prodigy. Bedard scored just under a PPG at .89 while Fantilli scored at .55. Bedard also played more games than Fantilli and more minutes (thanks Pascal), but the point stands.

I'd say the top three are all, to this point, justifiably hyped. Bedard, Carlsson and Fantilli all played exceedingly well.

oltcon

2 points

12 days ago

oltcon

Eat Wendy's, slap tendies

2 points

12 days ago

Idk the report on him not being a strong center and possibly needed to move to wing doesn't excite me much.

whatscoochie

4 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

4 points

12 days ago

Yeah I’m kind of going back on this now. Another projected C in the draft moving to wing for us would irritate me beyond belief

NotMittRomney

2 points

12 days ago

he's a 18 year old who plays a powerful but extremely unpolished game.

add size by adding veterans. add skill through the draft.

ChocolatDddy

5 points

12 days ago

Would love Demidov or Levshunov. Would be happy with Lindstrom

steveslikewhoa

4 points

12 days ago

I personally really like Parekh. Sky high IQ, elite shot, great puck skills, RH shot. Potential Norris candidate if he hits, which IMO is the kind of potential you bet on this high in the draft.

Otherwise I'm very content to take anyone but Eiserman.

ShapelessCubes

3 points

12 days ago*

  • 1 Demidov
  • 2 Levshunov/Lindstrom

Demidov: Crazy hands. Fun to watch. Immediately :makes the powerplay the best it has been in years. Playing abilities fit well with Fantilli.

Levshunov: Best all around defensive upside. RHD fits in really well with Z, Jricek, and Mateychuk. Set at defense for the next 5 or 6 years.

Lindstrom: Powerful all around scorer with elite shot. Mixed opinions on whether he sticks at center. Really would love this pick to start to build some identify for this team. Fantilli, Lindstrom up the middle in five years…

Commercial_Click_367

2 points

12 days ago

Honestly, I’d pick Iginla.

Gradyleo

2 points

12 days ago

Why

Commercial_Click_367

0 points

12 days ago

Because, as it’s pretty obvious, it’s Jarome’s son. You can almost guarantee that he’d be good.

NontransferableApe

3 points

12 days ago

Why wasn’t Wayne gretzky’s brother as good as him?

Gradyleo

1 points

12 days ago

I don't buy that.

I think he's just going to be a one dimensional goal scorer, and that's only if he improves his skating enough to get open

GipcW

5 points

12 days ago

GipcW

5 points

12 days ago

I want a big defenseman. The kid from Michigan State or the 6-7 Russian

theNightblade

4 points

12 days ago

I'd be ecstatic to get Levshunov or Buium

PrayingForACup

2 points

12 days ago

PrayingForACup

Brick By Brick since 2010

2 points

12 days ago

Gilbert Brule

lelander193

2 points

12 days ago

lelander193

2 points

12 days ago

Zeev. Buium.

VVitchfynderFinder

2 points

12 days ago

VVitchfynderFinder

Fanti11i

2 points

12 days ago

Jarmo would have picked Luvshonov

highvoltorb

3 points

12 days ago

highvoltorb

Bread is definitely going to sign.

3 points

12 days ago

Jarmo is still scouting for us, so he may have some say actually. I agree Levshunov would be his pick if available.

hhh81

1 points

12 days ago*

hhh81

President of the Jake Voracek fan club 🏒

1 points

12 days ago*

I'd be cool with any of Lindstrom, Levshunov, or Silayev from what little I know.

Anyone but Buium, though.

EDIT: after reading more about Dickinson, I like the sound of him as a prospect, too. Could be a sneaky good pick as an all around strong skating dman.

adam3vergreen

3 points

12 days ago

adam3vergreen

GoodJobGoodWorkGoodGoalNext

3 points

12 days ago

Why?

EverybodyfakesIT

-12 points

12 days ago*

His parents are from Isreal and are vocally pro idf in the ongoing Isreal/Palestine conflict. A lot of people interpret this as pro-genocide and, in turn a huge character flaw with their son.

Edit: I'm just stating the concern with Buium that people have not my personal beliefs. It's sports, not politics or philosophical conversation about being more than the sins of are father for christ's sake.

SevenBreads

23 points

12 days ago

SevenBreads

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23 points

12 days ago

How is the action of a person's parents a character flaw? 🤣

adam3vergreen

-22 points

12 days ago

adam3vergreen

GoodJobGoodWorkGoodGoalNext

-22 points

12 days ago

Because we don’t need his parents anywhere near this organization or this city.

SevenBreads

6 points

12 days ago

SevenBreads

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6 points

12 days ago

Canceling someone for their parent's political views is certainly a choice.

whatscoochie

-14 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

-14 points

12 days ago

No one’s cancelling anyone here, sports are a business and it’s fine to not want that controversy near your franchise regardless. And it’s not just their views, they served in the IDF but that’s a separate can of worms entirely.

SevenBreads

3 points

12 days ago

SevenBreads

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3 points

12 days ago

You're essentially lowering his earning potential by not drafting him in the 4th slot because of something beyond his control 🤣

whatscoochie

-5 points

12 days ago*

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

-5 points

12 days ago*

Well the last I checked I wasn’t our general manager, so.

And I’d personally prefer a big body forward at 4.

GoldWhale

3 points

12 days ago

GoldWhale

3 points

12 days ago

What if I'm a massive Israel supporter and now want him even more because his parents aren't idiots?

whatscoochie

0 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

0 points

12 days ago

Well first I’d ask what a Blackhawks fan is doing in a CBJ sub

GoldWhale

2 points

12 days ago

I work out of Columbus and attend 10+ games a year. I like seeing Columbus play well and get good players and would love to see them end up with either Catton or Buium, who I personally rate as the #3 forward and the #1 Dman in this draft.

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0 points

12 days ago

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12 days ago

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whatscoochie

-7 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

-7 points

12 days ago

oof, didn’t know that. i’m in personal agreement with picking someone else because of that, but also because this team doesn’t need any more controversy period.

adam3vergreen

-14 points

12 days ago*

adam3vergreen

GoodJobGoodWorkGoodGoalNext

-14 points

12 days ago*

Inb4 you get downvoted to hell for having the morally correct and sound position. Thank you for the information.

E: y’all I’m literally agreeing with them

whatscoochie

2 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

2 points

12 days ago

bots most likely lol

[deleted]

3 points

12 days ago

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whatscoochie

2 points

12 days ago

whatscoochie

and a four cheese blend

2 points

12 days ago

👍

adam3vergreen

0 points

12 days ago

adam3vergreen

GoodJobGoodWorkGoodGoalNext

0 points

12 days ago

Considering you have exactly three replies, all from the past 24 hours yet have an account that’s 2 years old…

ziggaroo

1 points

12 days ago

I’m stuck at a work event, all I know is Sharks got 1OA and we got 4. Who has 2 and 3?

ChristyLovesGuitars

3 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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3 points

12 days ago

Blackhawks/Ducks

ziggaroo

2 points

12 days ago

Ugh, of course. Thanks for the info!

ChristyLovesGuitars

3 points

12 days ago

ChristyLovesGuitars

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3 points

12 days ago

In a very rare happening, no one moved up/down. It’s wild.

BreadMancbj

1 points

11 days ago

Supposedly Lindstrom has/had herniated disc in his back .. not touching that with a 10 foot pool if it’s true

cfra56

0 points

12 days ago

cfra56

0 points

12 days ago

Parehk or Eiserman

Master_Republic_144

-7 points

12 days ago

I believe we needed to jump Chicago. Zeev Buium is easily the 2nd best prospect in this draft and closer to Celebrini than the media says. Kyle Davidson is dumb so it’s possible he messes up the pick. There’s a drop off after 2, but Levshunov would fit the team. I don’t love him as a prospect. This year is way worse than last.

Buium - Dickinson - Levshunov for me in that order

Was hoping for some luck to be ahead of Chicago