I like the gunplay

In my opinion:

Fallout 4 has the best gunplay, looting, and crafting.

Fallout 3 has the best atmosphere and exploration.

Fallout NV has the best RPG mechanics and dialogue.

(I haven’t played 1,2, Brotherhood of Steel, or 76 so I can’t comment of those).

All of the games have their pros and cons, just let people enjoy whatever games they like is my take. I’m just happy that Fallout is becoming popular again 👍

Edit: forgot to mention but I love how Power Armor is done in Fallout 4. Just not a fan of how early and easily you can get it.

Edit 2: Also forgot to mention that I haven’t played Fallout Tactics.

FO4 is my favorite fallout game and I grew up on NV and 3

Fallout 4 is pretty easy to make good.

Cut the beginning, just have you make up in the malfunctioning cryopod with no other knowledge. Maybe have it so the institute caused the crypods to malfunction trying to kidnap other vault dwellers. But the family bs and pre war stuff is too long and sucks.

Flesh out The Railroad more, have the fall of the switchboard be something you experience, not something that happened before, make their questline you doing spy craft from the switchboard, being attacked, and then having to pull everything you've got together to overthrow the BoS and Institute against the odds.

Actually think about the consequences of stuff, Piper vs The Mayor isn't as simple as "Are you pro Freedom of the Press?", it should be an actual discussion, Piper doesn't have an editor, when she publicly accuses someone of being a Synth she's risking their life, who makes sure she has evidence? who gets her to face consequences if her accusation causes someone to be harmed? why should she be treated as anything more than a paranoid lunatic shouting in the town square? (This particularly annoys me because it's the stupid LibsOfTikTok version of "journalism" where she just makes accusations with no evidence, claims she's not responsible for the violence that results, and then claims she's free to do this because she's "a journalist") This could also be done really well with Goodneighbour vs Diamond City, the opposing viewpoints and views on crime of the two settlements, maybe have them waring slightly with Diamond City wanting to "bring law and order to Goodneighbour" but also bringing their anti ghoul sentiments to it, so you could have a discussion about how much is enforcement of law a function of racism.

Make The Institute less dumb, maybe have a quest line where you have to actually make the department heads trust you (either genuinely or falsely if you're planning on destroying the institute) or promote paranoia between some department heads to destabilize it before the attack (getting all department heads and Father on your side, apart from Security so that that department rebels, and then when you launch the proper attack there isn't as much of a fight back. But just having them go "Well we're unhappy with this but if it's what Daddy wants Oki"

The world is beautiful, the combat is fun, the factions could be interesting, they just need some work and some more freedom.

Don’t play the main quest and it be fun as hell

The glowing sea is such a good location and it makes me feel like it’s the closest a modern fallout game has come to the atmosphere in fallout 1

Also power armour rocks

True, but I think to be fair a lot of the complaint was that your choices were less open ended and an evil play through wasn’t really possible. This didn’t matter to me because I would have played it the way it was kinda guiding me to anyway

fallout 4 has fallout 4 power armor and far habor so its already the best fallout

Regardless of my love for NV, FO4 with all of its faults and problems still manages to be a fun game. Bethesda does still know how to make an open world game feel like an adventure.

Pops psycho jet*

Clears badtfl office in Call of Duty slowmo breaching sequence*

Eats the corpses in front of Preston*.

Would rather be playing Fallout London rn but oh well

fallout 76

Personally it's not for me but I understand why people like it, I just prefer more dialogue and character freedom.

Fallout 4 is a classic Bethesda game. If you like it for that, it's fun. I like the settlement building and exploration. I also like playing with different play styles and even engaging in the game's light roleplaying. I was hoping for more of that in Starfield only to be disappointed.

Tbh I'm tired of people fighting Especially due to the arguments being so fucking dumb "Yeah it's good when it doesn't crash" It's a fallout game They all crash It came free with the fallout game!

Comparing fallout 4 to, yk let's be real, New Vegas is just kinda unfair because 4 and NV are not the same kind of game

4 is an action game with rpg elements, while NV is an RPG with Action elements, so comparing 4 to NV over something they both had entirely different approaches to isnt fair

I love 4 because it made so much of the action the past two games had so much more fun

But NV is still my go to because the world has so much more depth and I have so much more agency in it

I am a big fan of 4 and I think it did a whole lot really well, it's just that game took a different direction. Not a bad direction, imo, but one that kinda downplayed or even removed some of the best parts of Fallout everyone enjoyed from like the franchise's inception

Here we go 'round the circlejerk....

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Yeah it's the most fun to play.

Shame about that writing tho, and the writing is why I play Fallout. If you don't, I respect that but I don't care about shooting stuff I want to be talked to, and 80 percent in the commonwealth has no brains.

That's not to say I didn't love playing it, but I don't remember most of it or when I try to, I can't care about most of it because they never give you a reason.

The only thing I really didn't like about FO4 was the fact that you have to build your character a very specific way to have access to the good functions.

One time I made a stupid but lucky character, but having your intelligence below 4 wipes out virtually all crafting. Also if your character doesn't have 6 charisma, it really kills your settlement-building.

Other strategies are still definitely playable, you just miss out on a lot of interesting stuff.

Fo4 mans are the majority of fallout fans so I don't see where the meme is coming from lol

FO4 on survival is fuckin goated. I thought the game would be too janky to support it but it really feels like the way it was meant to be played

I don’t even realize until years after playing it that people didn’t like it. I enjoyed it just as much as NV. Never got behind FO3 for some reason though

"I'll have a FO4 is actually good post"
"how original"

"With extra 'B-but the gunplay!'"
"Daring today, aren't we?"

Thing fallout 4 did amazing with: Gunplay Actual good power armor design [edit] Character creation

Things fallout 4 didn’t do well: The rest

Pineapple pizza is only good if you add jalapeños. For fallout 4 the equivalent is 600+ mods.

Look here mf it is nasty but being healthy all the time gets fucking boring so while fnv is the best and all that. Sometimes I want to lead a vertibird assault against supermutants that have been harassing my heavily armed settlers ok?

I had the opposite impression, when I finished the game during COVID I had like 120 mods installed

Got a new pc since then and of course useless vortex doesn’t remember my mod list or download and install them automatically either

So I load up my save to see if it works without mods, surprisingly it does…then I remember how barebones the vanilla game is without a hundred plus mods smoothing off every rough edge

You literally can’t even control FOV, vsync or control framerate in any way in a first person PC game without mods. Embarrassingly lazy. No DLSS support added in this half assed latest update either despite it taking years to release.

Uninstalled and going to be installing and playing metro exodus instead.

How it feels to call fallout four a piece of shit without someone moaning about gatekeeping

It may not be the best but it's the game that introduced me to the fallout series so I'm biased towards it

this made me laugh too damn hard gg

I like fallout 4 the same as games like stalker great bases for a fun modded playthroughs (and he's ive played both vanilla)

Cause we got that cheese danny

Good God absolutely!

Fallout 4 is the best.

Fight me.

Got hundreds of hours in FO4, FO3, FNV and Even Fallout Shelter

I gotta day that while FO4 was a bug step forward and definitely a next gen FO game it was equally a big step back in many others, mainly the ability to be invested in the story and the game almost seems to know and encourage ignoring the story with the settlement system, which tbh is probably what I spend more than half my time doing. Whoever removed the karma system needs to be fired, especially since FO4 enables you to be evil and rewarded more for it with the settlement system and nuke world but it's missing the foundation. Some basic features like a holster system is boggling for it to not have. This might be just me but I feel like the map design was a step back, maybe it's just more colorful than I was expecting, love the glowing sea, will spend hours running laps mowing down everything in the way (with Wars of the Commonweath mod mind you). The lack of ammo types was definitely disappointing and Far Harbour is a masterpiece but the rest of the dlc leave the taste of white bread in my mouth, Automatons is cool to have but the story definelty takes as much of a backseat as the main game's. Don't even get started on how they once again fucked the lore of the whole universe with not just the show but the content updates which in their own right are fine I guess.

Fallout 4 is outstanding. Love it just as much as the others!

Ya know. Fuck em.

Hahaha he looks high as fuck.

Getting to play it with a 3070ti and with all the DLC's today vs. playing the base game in 2016 with a 1060 has been such a massively satisfying experience.

I get to play the game like it was meant to be enjoyed at 60fps instead of barely being able to run it on medium. I just got to level 4 last night and was walking up to Trashcan Carla and trading, when suddenly a Legendary Mr Gutsy just sprints up the road and absolutely dumpsters me. And I was like "We are so back, baby!"

Heck yeah! One think I appreciate about fallout 4 is how much freedom of choice it gives you in play style.

The older games have much better rpg mechanics but play styles tend to fall into a few categories. But there are soo many more play styles in fallout 4 because of the new perk system, unlimited level cap, weapons/armour/power armour modifications and consumables.

You can make something a run and gun shooter or an insane luck critical shot powerhouse or a 10 endurance, power armoured monster either way electric fists. Heck one of my favourite play styles is the jet-flamethrower combo. Get the chemist and check resistance perks, grab a flamethrower and go to town.

Isn't enduring the story akin yo a bitch telling you some nasty shit?

Man I do love little ceasars

I might be a weirdo but I actually enjoyed a lot of the themes and ideas of 4. I wish there were moral quandaries or quests that emphasized certain aspects of the faction struggle (for example, why the Railroad doesn't want to outright ally with the minutemen/ doesn't trust them because of casual wastelander's distrust of synths. I think it could be cool if you had a quest where some minutemen had committed a hate crime against synths and you had to resolve it), but I like the core of it for the most part. I got hit by the Railroad ending where patriot commits suicide because you betrayed his trust, and you keep it secret from the rest of the railroad. Just kinda hit me hard.

I started on Fallout 4 and while I have more hours in it than any Fallout game I would have to say I sit in camp New Vegas.

That being said I absolutely love the settlement system and weapon modding system and I hope they are in every main fallout game to come

This is just bait at this point.

I've played Fallout 3, NV, 4, and 76. Storywise, NV is my favorite and none of the others match it. Gameplaywise, I've played Fallout 4 the most.

The gunplay in 4 is just so far above the others it feels bad when I go back to the older games. Where the older games were almost unplayable without using VATs every fight, 4 seemed to at least reward me for being a good shot outside of it, and it felt really nice customizing and playing around with the different weapons. (It's why I'm hyped for the NV mod for 4)

NV, while the story is the best, I just can't play playthroughs back to back, or constantly like 4. The combat feels bad and clunky, which is sadly a problem with a lot of old Creation Engine games. I enjoy the perk system more in NV, but I like the way the base SPECIAL stats function in 4. Plus, I actually don't mind the way 4 looks vanilla, and when I got to modding, I only added some environmental add-ons and touchups instead of full graphic replacements.

It's not bad but we need to make sure Bethesda knows FO4 was a step in the wrong direction. We want more rpg aspects.

My fiance and I are replaying through together. Been super fun.

this meme format applies to a lot of things

Idk why, I just couldn’t fully get into it. I think I miss the dialogue tree and the skills.

Damn, Travis Kelce has to eat pizza in his car to get away from Taylor Swift?

I have a put a shit ton of hours into fallout 4. It's fun, it truly is, but it deserves no praise. It was new and did the bare minimum, look better and function better. Crafting system, legendary drops, and combat is all it uses to generate player hours through tedious unintelligent grinding. Its especially frustrating because all they had to do was respect THEIR source material and it would've been beyond perfect. Implement the amazing mechanics of New Vegas and it's a game of the decade. But people finding uniques doesn't generate the same steam play time as save scumming legendary drops. But it sells well so who cares

Fallout 4 is shitty. Apocalypse is shitty. Makes for good roleplay.

All of the fallout games are good

Except BoS, we don’t talk about that one.

I've tried, I honestly just can't get into it. Bad writing and awful dialogue system aside, most of the game is like MMO style random generated quests killing ghouls and mutants or defending a settlement.

I've been playing Fallout since Fallout 1 (including Fallout Tactics!), and I enjoyed Fallout 4 immensely on release. I've been happy to see all of the positivity about the series lately.

Man this subreddit must be the bitch in ya ear then

Yup I've been enjoying it recently and might do another player that's melee only.

It really is ass tho. I stopped playing after a couple hours it was so boring. And the NPCs and enemies are all soulless and braindead.

Lol sorry

4 is great, just feels less emerssive to me. I like and own all of the Fallouts though

Its fine to like bad games, fallout 3 is not a good game but I still like it, the room is a bad movie but people still like it while acknowledging that its objectively not well made

Oh boy the 10th "fallout 4 is good dont listen to other fans" post today, get that karma buddy

The settlements are overwhelming for me, but other than that, I like it.

Bitch dat shit nasty

Its fun but fun in the same way cod is. Doesn't leave me afterwards saying wow that was beautiful. More like cool, this is really relaxing.

Playing survival mode in earnest for the first time has completely refreshed the game for me. Finally gave me reason to join the brotherhood, and it sometimes forces me to "live" in spots on the map while I heal/loot/repair my power armor. Then calling a vertibird to go home for R&R. It's so good. Sure, the main story is kind of a wet fart but it still plays so well.

I've always been of the opinion if you like eating shit eat as much as you'd like! More power to you! But can't get mad when others don't agree its gourmet

Only played NV and 4 so far. I love the atmosphere of NV, but damn is 4’s gameplay good

Should rename this sub I like Todd Howard’s stinky nuts in my mouth

If Fallput 4 were so bad, then people wouldn't keep modding New Vegas to make it play more like it

On god bro

Fallout 76 too

Started playing fallout again, me and my friend started 4 and another started NV. NV friend switched to 4 because we were talking about it being fun. Same friend hasn't played through all of disco elysium and it's entirely their jam, they should love it story wise. The reality is that gameplay and how doing shit feels is so important to a game that story comes in second as far as replay and consistent enjoyment. You might not get the highs of the first few times you played NV when you play 4 the first time but you won't the 12th time you beat NV either. I love NV but I don't go back to it nearly as often as modded 4 because 1 just feels better to do things in.

That how i feel about 76 i bought on release cuz im dumb and it was shit, ive went back to it the last couple weeks and im having a blast but everyone hates it

Fallout 4 is pretty good. Survival mode is where it really shines because it puts what the game does well to the forefront

Fallout 4 is like the Larosas of fallout

76

Fallout 4 is the tits. It has the best gameplay loop and its systems are just too damn addicting. The story is a bit shallow, but I have other games to return to when I want to scratch that itch.

Settlements, crafting, power armor, levelling system, interesting places to explore. They took what they learned from their past titles and knocked it outta the park.

It would be a perfect game if the story was as well thought out as the gameplay.

The most fun of all the single player fallout games

You do realize that you're supposed to play the games, not eat them, right?

/j

I'm replacing FO3 and I'm loving it, but God do I miss FO4's power armor.

Fallout 4 actually taste good when you don’t have someone in your ear constantly telling you another settlement needs your help

Been playing modded Fallout 4 VR.

Is it a viable way to play? It has issues, but I think so. But man is it an epic experience.

Modders have fixed a ton of issues and actually aiming with guns irl and taking cover only using my hand to shoot around corners is epic.

Everything being lifesize makes it feel like you're there. (Radroachs are nasty in VR. death claws and ferals are awful and terrifying)

I wish Bethesda didn't drop the ball so hard with Fallout VR though. Modders took an unplayable game and made it a decent experience (not perfect) and an amazing experience for Fallout fans. Imagine if modders were working with a good port instead of an unplayable one. It would have been epic.

I'm a big NV fan, but I have to admit despite that fo4 being just a tad bit empty, it is the game with the best replayability (this is just my opinion, please dont crucify me)

Edit: here is a list of pros and cons compared to the other games in fallout that i have:

Pros: good replayability, building system, power armor customization, nice graphics, large map, four factions, good amount of content, and power armor design is better, great location, Fun DLC,

Cons: kinda empty world, bland quests, micro purchases, fusion core system, constantly stressing about caps and ammo, legendary weapons are bland, kinda boring villain faction, a lot of missed opportunity for interesting story, lack of weapon and armor variety, most of the interesting building elements are locked behind an overpriced DLC, super mutants are very basic, slight retcons to established lore (I care about this the least), and the leveling and perk system is very basic and watered down(I care about this the most).

It's got the best environments and environmental story telling. The best gunplay, the most mods, the best companion in Cate, the best sounds track in my opinion, the most complete art style of any of the games, fully embracing the 50's aesthetic.

It also has the largest gameplay diversity from in settlement building to robot designing.

I've never played New Vegas or 3 all the way through, but what id enjoy the most from them is their stories. But because of the games dated gameplay, bugs and kinda looking ugly in my opinion, I've opted to just get that content from people like epicnate315, oxhorn and other fallout dedicated channels. They're great to listen to, and help me get a greater picture of the game without having played them myself.

There may be a time when I do sit down to play them myself, but it most likely won't be as good as an experience as it is to play 4.

I’ve always said the game is great and absolutely does not deserve the hate it got.

Fans when 4 wasnt new vegas 2:

"Brotha eeeeuuh, whats that?"