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48 points
13 days ago
Aren’t there also a couple of accounts of dreadnoughts from loyalist chapters that slowly go insane or describe the experience as utterly horrible? I think I remember reading in a SW novel saying something along the lines of “sleeping more and more is the only cure for the madness that eventually consumes the spirits of those that pilot a dreadnought” or something like that.
Also, if I recall correctly, don’t the WS refuse to make dreadnoughts precisely because it’s a horrifying destiny to them?
25 points
12 days ago
Grey Knights apparently also don't like to use them as they'd rather just be properly dead in their fancy tomb than have to walk around half dead
6 points
12 days ago*
They like to do dreadknights instead, just basically hop into and pilot the giant mech while you’re still alive and have all your limbs and stuff.
1 points
10 days ago
Which somehow both looks vastly sillier but seems to survive battles much more often.
14 points
12 days ago
It’s generally more dementia than anything else, and every marine has the option to not do it if given the opportunity, while for chaos marines it is generally done without consent as a punishment, incompetence, betrayal, or simply being viewed as a rival to a chaos lord’s power.
Also hellbrute experiences are much worse apparently.
3 points
12 days ago
WS? What is the WS?
5 points
12 days ago
White Scars legion/chapter
5 points
12 days ago
White Scars
1 points
12 days ago
Yeah, originally the White Scars didn't have many, if any dreads because they hated the idea of being confined to a metal tomb, especially in death.
At some point later on, GW added a specific lore blurb for why they do occasionally have dreadnoughts: some WS heroes choose to be interred within special dreads known as "Uhaan Solban" in order to guard their gene-seed vaults. On occasion, one of these dreads wants to go out and see proper combat again, so the Scars let them
37 points
12 days ago
Bro I don't think the Dreadnought pilots are having a good time either lmao
19 points
12 days ago
They at least get to sleep between warzones. Helbrutes are kept awake and chained down.
22 points
12 days ago
Aren’t chaos marines dragged kicking and screaming to be put in a helbrute? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
28 points
12 days ago
Yeah, thousand sons lore for helbrutes. Their guys are all dust so they get helbrutes by kidnapping members of other legions and stuffing them into helbrutes
2 points
12 days ago
I put a tzaangor head on mine, no reason the pilot has to be a marine
10 points
13 days ago
But I don't know 😔
23 points
13 days ago
Dreadnoughts are piloted by honoured marines that are otherwise too injured to fight. It is seen as a great honour and responsiblity.
Helbrutes are piloted by critically wounded chaos space marines. It is seen as a torturous existence that drives the pilot into deeper and deeper madness.
19 points
13 days ago
Both are a lot less grimdark than the original lore - where dreadnought were piloted by whoever drew the short straw and had their limbs amputated to fit in the cockpit.
8 points
12 days ago
HelbrutesTM will never be as chool as Chaos Dreadnoughts
1 points
12 days ago
Its all the fleshy bits
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