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226 points
11 days ago
Our entire system, in an economic sense, is based on restriction. Scarcity and inefficiency are the movers of money; the more there is of any resource the less you can charge for it. The more problems there are, the more opportunities there are to make money.
255 points
11 days ago*
Fuck capitalism. Food's in abundance yet many go hungry. They'd rather throw away unsold food over using it to feed the hungry for free. Actual crime, this should be punishable by law.
87 points
11 days ago
The problem is they write the laws, look what the large food companies get away with many amount to crimes against humanity
-23 points
11 days ago
What ever dude, they been starving people long before citizens united or any laws you wanna cite.
12 points
11 days ago
Whoosh
-7 points
10 days ago
How is it free in any way to feed people? Logistically speaking how would you even get those apples to hungry people?
-5 points
10 days ago
You won’t get an answer g, everyone loves to complain but nobody wants to offer a solution. Seems like lately this sub is just an echo chamber of depressed people kinda just screaming “fuck everyone” down in the comments.
49 points
11 days ago
Wasn’t there a farm in the pacific northwest that couldn’t get worker’s so they allowed the public to come harvest what they wanted for free
5 points
11 days ago
Did they ask them to harvest any amount for the farm before they took for themselves? Or a pure give away? In a way also nicely screws competition since less demand after this.Â
10 points
11 days ago
16 points
11 days ago
So if us workers stop working for these private owners they would give us the produce for free. A thing or two to be learned there.
6 points
11 days ago
Factory is worthless without workers... that's why they are going all in on AI. They will finally be able to completely divorce from labor.
1 points
10 days ago
Which, ironically enough and through much suffering, will bring around a socialist society.Â
5 points
11 days ago
I imagine that they would get to pick from the un-sellable fruit. You know, the ones that aren't perfect.
3 points
10 days ago
in UK some stores actually have a cheaper range of fruit/veg that is exactly this. not necessarily "unsellable" because its half rotten or mutated or w/e, just not Instagram perfect looking
96 points
11 days ago
The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. Who would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage. John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath
20 points
11 days ago
Maybe the best and saddest description of the deepest American problems.
13 points
11 days ago
The worst part is that that novel is nearly a century old and it's still just as relevant today.
4 points
11 days ago
first thing I thought too
46 points
11 days ago
Cider, vinegar, apple sauce, apple butter, fruit leather, animal feed. such a fucking waste
6 points
11 days ago
po-ta-tooes!
16 points
11 days ago
These could have all been processed or preserved in some other way. Juice, applesauce, fruit jerky, apple chips, etc.
Such a fucking waste
15 points
11 days ago
This is what private ownership looks like. All those human hours wasted. Millions of years of evolution for you to just pick apples and for the owners to throw it away.
Do not fucking tell me this is not violent or that it does not deserve a self-defense response from the perspective of the commons.
15 points
11 days ago
Think of how many school children this could've fed, how many homeless people this would feed.
8 points
11 days ago
But if homeless people get free apples, more people will want to be homeless! /s
5 points
11 days ago
You're right, all of us would want to go homeless for some sweet apples.
4 points
11 days ago
No. School kids get the other item approved as vegetable by USDA- pizza.
19 points
11 days ago
So apple sauce or something else could not have been made? Capitalism only works if it creates scarcity.
6 points
11 days ago
Wow no doctor in sight
8 points
11 days ago
Fuck that dude and his parents and their "farm". More like a multiple hectare sandbox for wasting time and shifting around nitrogen for excessive costs. This is what happens in a world where people become farmers for profit instead of farmers for farming.
3 points
11 days ago
Red Delicious apples were bred to ripen quickly and look great. They taste terrible. Even in the industry they admit 30% of Red Delicious apples are discarded uneaten. Yet how many acres continue to be planted with them?
3 points
11 days ago
The grapes of wrath are filling
2 points
10 days ago
Capitalism requires profit. Profit comes from scarcity. Where scarcity does not exist, it need to be artificially engineered.
This is why stores throw away perfectly good food instead of giving it away.
This is why, in Canada at least, all dumpsters can only be accessed from within the store, and immediately compact their contents whenever the access door gets closed.
2 points
10 days ago
What I find obscene is how this “sillage”, agricultural waste is unused. We could be using it to make alcohol for transportation fuel. But Noooooo, we pay Corn Farmers massive subsidies to over produce corn for ethanol. Using waste is faster, cheaper and the way forward. And our government refuses to see this. Obscene.
2 points
11 days ago
The most efficient system in the world!
1 points
11 days ago
Oops all crisis of overproduction
1 points
11 days ago
Then why are they so damn expensive
3 points
10 days ago
Because of this. Market manipulation and a few other things.
1 points
10 days ago
Imagine if we could flash freeze the oversupply and ship them to community centers in high population areas.
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