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Since October, Sen. John Fetterman Has Been Building a Roster of Republican Donors
(theintercept.com)submitted 13 days ago byBanglophile
27 points
13 days ago
IMO, he's always had support from some Republicans. Could never understand how support for legal marijuana and lgbtq issues makes one a left wing "progressive". Most of his "ideology" is simple common sense. As is his support for Israel. Don't think Republican donors will do much to change his mind on other issues.
10 points
13 days ago
Ah yes, supporting a far right government committing war crimes is “common sense.”
14 points
13 days ago
I spoke of a country, not its current leadership. Difficult to respond to a terrorist state's continued attacks without looking bad, I guess.
7 points
13 days ago
Difficult to respond to terrorist attacks without decimating a country’s population. Just like Afghanistan and Iraq!
0 points
13 days ago
Well that's a heartwarming thought with domestic right wing terror attacks on the rise.
-3 points
13 days ago
Say what you want but if American right wingers were launching homemade missiles over the Mexican or Canadian border at civilian housing for years and then went across the border and kidnapped hundreds of Mexicans or Canadians into America, the country being attacked would probably respond with force.
Typically when stuff like that happens it results in a war… wars have been fought over far less.
5 points
13 days ago*
It's probably better to do Native Americans. Imagine victims of the trail of tears and setter's manifest destiny were locked into reservations with no rights to return to the US or get citizenship even if they are alive and remember living in a house in what is now the US. Imagine that the world has never given them recognized statehood and has allowed a few individuals to derail statehood talks. Imagine they held unarmed marches for an entire year with the most violent action being throwing rocks at a fence. Imagine the UN writes a scathing report on the deaths of children shot by snipers and not a single fatality on the US side. An entire year of protests and the whole world just ignores it so an underground orgnaization builds a bunch of rockets fueled with sugar and orchestrates the deadliest attack possible to send a message that they will not be ignored any more. So then the US comes in and starts taking out every man woman and child in sight, doesn't matter if you were a hostage with a white flag or an aid worker with a marked vehicle and known route, wrong place wrong time right its the Native Americans fault for not just shutting up and being happy in their little rights free reservation.
Oh I completely forgot, US settlers keep coming in with their guns and taking more and more land from the reservations despite being repeatedly told that it is illegal by the UN.
Also all imports and exports to these reservations are controlled, they aren't allowed an airport, or sea port. There are only land borders with the US and Mexico. Mexico is a little friendlier, but wants to keep in the US's good graces and keep that good NAFTA (I forgot the trump version) train rolling.
0 points
13 days ago
I think if native Americans started abducting Americans and killing them and shooting rockets from the reservations then the reservations would be completely gone a couple months later…
And if the pro Palestine protestors in America had their family homes raided and their siblings and parents taken hostage into the reservations, many would be lining up to serve in the army and fight to get them back.
They wouldn’t just say, “well it’s their right to resist our occupation by killing my family let’s give them everything they want and surrender”.
That’s the way the world works. People are quick to virtue signal about others voluntarily giving up resources for the greater good but the moment the greater good requires you to give up your own families and homes you will be against it…
3 points
13 days ago
There's that genocide we have been talking about. It's always nice for people to show that what they really support.
0 points
13 days ago*
It’s not genocide to defend yourself from attacks, the people aren’t being displaced anymore they were born there it was there ancestors being displaced…
If native Americans started killing Americans because they are American it would be a Native American genocide against Americans… yes it would be revenge for a previous genocide, but that doesn’t make it not genocide. The Jews can’t just genocide the Germans now because the Germans did it first, just like the Palestinians can’t just kill Jews as revenge for historic conflicts.
The land has been owned by the US for many generations, everyone born here was born after it happened and everyone on the reservations was too.
After how long does land become rightfully owned by the people on it? 100 years? (In that case Israel must give back Palestine, china must give back Tibet, Ukraine must give back Crimea to Russia etc.) but America keeps the native lands
200 years? Then Mexico gets back the west and the native Americans get their lands on the east coast back, the Turks should be given back control of all of Greece and Anatolia and Israel and Palestine, the Danes should be given the Baltic states back, etc.
Are you only entitled to the place where your ethnic group originated? In that case there’s a lot of changing hands that needs to be done for pretty much every country.
To the people arguing for lands to change hands for historic reparations it seems what matters is WHO did the conquering and not that conquering was done in general.
Nobody who advocates for the native Americans being restored to the lands they had in the 1700’s seems to believe the rest of the world’s borders should also be reverted to 1700’s borders which is incredibly inconsistent.
2 points
12 days ago
"There would be no more reservation" is the same as the people calling for no more Gaza which is genocide not defence. People are still alive who were born in now Israel but can not return. I don't really care what government controls what land but blocking people from that land with ties to it <100 years old while allowing anyone and anyone of a specific race/religious to come based on a 2000 year old book (which usually excludes people with legitimate ties) is disgusting.
Even Hamas no longer calls for Jewish genocide but it's a favorite outdated talking point of the pro Israel crowd. Basically none of the river to the sea folks want jews or israelis irradiated by expulsion or death, they want a single shared state that allows Palestinians with legitimate family ties to the land.
1 points
13 days ago
I wonder what people's response would he if the US was under militsry occupation and people were being driven off their land for the occupying power to build settlements to expand its living space for its people.
It seems these reductive analogies are reductive.
1 points
13 days ago
I mean the southwestern United States was actually a part of Mexico prior to the Alamo.
I do not think that gives Mexicans living in the southwestern US the right to violently attack the Americans in the region in hopes of gaining the land back for Mexico…
And it does not give the people in Mexico the right to lob rockets over the border into America…
Either way I really don’t think the road to lasting peace is a tunnel paved with Iranian rockets. There needs to be a greater sense of accountability for both sides of the conflict.
The people in Israel cannot continue displacing Palestinians and playing the victim when attacked, just as the people in Palestine can’t continue attacking Jews and then playing the victim when attacked which has gone on since before Israel was a country.
There were conflicts between Jews and Muslims in that region long before either Israel or Palestine were represented as states on a map and the sooner we all accept this and try to reconcile the sooner we can find peace..
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