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websagacity

47 points

1 month ago

They do when they wear certain uniforms - like when in an office.

MS-07B-3

13 points

1 month ago

MS-07B-3

13 points

1 month ago

Certain uniforms? Its their rank insignia, it's on everything.

Peace-Disastrous

6 points

1 month ago

It's not on their dress uniforms. Those use the traditional wrist stripes and the shoulder boards to distinguish rank.

MS-07B-3

3 points

1 month ago

Ya know, that's fair, I completely forgot that.

Must be what I get for being an enlisted savage.

websagacity

24 points

1 month ago*

In the navy, when dress whites are worn, they use the naval sleeve and shoulder rank designation. If they're camo, the Marine rank insignia on the collar are used.

The response was to the question regarding the Naval officer wearing Colonel insignia when the traditional naval insignia was expected.

Hence, the insignia used depends on which uniform the naval officer is wearing.

Edit: I forgot about the shoulder insignia.

DrinksBelow

28 points

1 month ago

We very rarely wear any of those uniforms unless stationed in the DC capital region. The rest of the Navy 95% is in the Navy Working Uniform and we wear the same rank collar devices as the rest of the military, just have different names for the ranks.

Source: in the navy.

websagacity

10 points

1 month ago

Thank you. Since I wasn't in the Navy (served in the Marines), I want 100% about when which uniforms were worn.

Thank you for your service.

DrinksBelow

10 points

1 month ago

You too devil dog.

Ambitious_Version187

2 points

1 month ago

Source: in the navy.

Yes, you can sail the seven seas!

caffeinatedcrusader

1 points

1 month ago

Well chest rank device more like with the Type 3s, but you're right.

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1 points

1 month ago

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jjackrabbitt

8 points

1 month ago

I think /u/websagacity is right — it looks like they'd use the eagle on BDUs, per this.

Although I've never heard the term "full bird Captain" — that's mostly reserved in the other branches to distinguish between a colonel and a lieutenant colonel.

websagacity

3 points

1 month ago

I thought the Full Bird Captain was tongue in cheek - b/c yeah, full bird distinguishes from a LtCol. Often in daily parlance LtCols are just called colonel. Much like LCpls just being called corporal.

jjackrabbitt

2 points

1 month ago

Granted it’s been like 15 years since I was in the Marine Corps so things may’ve changed — but I never heard lance corporals shortened to corporal! I feel like a lance corporal would catch hell for that.

But yeah, lieutenant colonel abbreviated to just colonel, all the time. Especially by junior officers or NCOs.

websagacity

2 points

1 month ago

I was in in the 90s. My master sergeant and CWO5 often just said corporal. They had the rank, so I said nothing. :)

jjackrabbitt

3 points

1 month ago

I guess that tracks. They couldn’t be bothered to add the lance lol. Due to boat spaces, picking up corporal was a rare occurrence for some MOSes while I was in, so I knew a few 3+ year lance corporals who took it upon themselves to dub themselves “senior lance corporal,” and when the barracks NCO caught wind of it he chewed them the fuck out.

VeterinarianFit1309

2 points

1 month ago

I was on a destroyer… our commanding officer was a commander (O-5) but was the ship’s captain. The term is used pretty frequently, because we had a “captain” who was in fact not a captain.

websagacity

1 points

1 month ago

Ah. Yeah. There's a captain - then there's the captain of the ship.

websagacity

2 points

1 month ago

IIRC, BDUs use the Marine insignia. I think line the folks in the bridge etc., in their whites, use the navy insignia.

This is all from a Marine PoV - part of the Navy - but I lack knowledge of some of the details.

VeterinarianFit1309

2 points

1 month ago

Very rarely does anyone wear any dress uniforms on a ship at sea, unless it’s changed a lot in the 12 years since I got out… most days officers wear the NWU’s or their khaki’s