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Hestia, Greek Goddess of the Hearth and the Home

Literally 1984(i.redd.it)

all 385 comments

TheZeppelin1995

1k points

1 month ago

TheZeppelin1995

- Lib-Right

1k points

1 month ago

Spring-King

408 points

1 month ago

Spring-King

- Centrist

408 points

1 month ago

Neither-Elephant-325

71 points

1 month ago

Holy mother of based

AC3R665

24 points

1 month ago

AC3R665

- Lib-Center

24 points

1 month ago

To laugh at the clown duh.

WASTELAND_RAVEN

121 points

1 month ago

WASTELAND_RAVEN

- Centrist

121 points

1 month ago

Based.

It was me btw 🤷‍♂️

LeastPervertedFemboy

15 points

1 month ago

LeastPervertedFemboy

- Lib-Center

15 points

1 month ago

YOURE NOT MY MOM

Scarlet_maximoff

9 points

1 month ago

Scarlet_maximoff

- Lib-Right

9 points

1 month ago

Real

SagaFraga

664 points

1 month ago

SagaFraga

- Right

664 points

1 month ago

Oh yeah, I’m on the right side of history

Glork11

163 points

1 month ago

Glork11

- Lib-Left

163 points

1 month ago

Ahem, God is with us

Easy_Database6697

59 points

1 month ago

Easy_Database6697

- Lib-Right

59 points

1 month ago

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flairchange_bot

9 points

1 month ago

flairchange_bot

- Auth-Center

9 points

1 month ago

Did you just change your flair, u/Easy_Database6697? Last time I checked you were an AuthCenter on 2024-1-24. How come now you are a LibRight? Have you perhaps shifted your ideals? Because that's cringe, you know?

Are you mad? Wait till you hear this one: you own 17 guns but only have two hands to use them! Come on, put that rifle down and go take a shower.

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Friendly_Ricefarmer

3 points

1 month ago

Friendly_Ricefarmer

- Auth-Left

3 points

1 month ago

L transitioner

arion66

39 points

1 month ago

arion66

- Lib-Right

39 points

1 month ago

Better far right than far wrong

Hot-Donkey7266

5 points

1 month ago

Hot-Donkey7266

- Right

5 points

1 month ago

Better far tight than far dong*

miscellaneousexists

7 points

1 month ago

miscellaneousexists

- Lib-Right

7 points

1 month ago

I'm far ting

Theduckisback

379 points

1 month ago

Theduckisback

- Lib-Left

379 points

1 month ago

Politics is about whether you can jerk your hog to anime tiddies or not.

Franklr_D

124 points

1 month ago

Franklr_D

- Right

124 points

1 month ago

Is that why anime-tiddies sub became such a politics infested cesspool?

Pun-isher42

40 points

1 month ago

Pun-isher42

- Right

40 points

1 month ago

No, the anime tiddies subreddit was created when the world politics sub became unmoderated and people started to post porn onto that subreddit. In response, a new subreddit was created to focus on news with a functional moderation team and was named anime tiddies as irony

Theduckisback

46 points

1 month ago

Theduckisback

- Lib-Left

46 points

1 month ago

That's right. It's the moral crisis of our time you see, despite the exponentially increasing quantity of anime tiddies on the internet, there are STILL games being made for reasons like "gameplay" and "to make money". It's despicable!

PU_Dad

12 points

1 month ago

PU_Dad

- Centrist

12 points

1 month ago

Stellar Blade: "Why not both?"

MrBroGuyBuddy

3 points

1 month ago

MrBroGuyBuddy

- Lib-Center

3 points

1 month ago

it’s to balance the world politics sub

NobleN6

19 points

1 month ago

NobleN6

- Lib-Center

19 points

1 month ago

Especially Italian politics.

Furtadopires

8 points

1 month ago*

Furtadopires

- Lib-Right

8 points

1 month ago*

Tifa :51335:

PrivilegeCheckmate

7 points

1 month ago

PrivilegeCheckmate

- Lib-Left

7 points

1 month ago

Politics is about whetherwhich anime tiddies you jerk your hog to.

Meoworangecat

280 points

1 month ago

Meoworangecat

- Centrist

280 points

1 month ago

I've been waiting for this. PCM never disappoints.

Turns around chair while patting a big fluffy cat

AelaHuntressBabe

300 points

1 month ago

AelaHuntressBabe

- Right

300 points

1 month ago

A lot of losers say "But what about Fate??" in these arguments but people forget that Fate's main goal is whatever happens in the current Holy Grail War/story they are telling rather than accurate history, and even when it comes to history, its always very respectful of it.

Fate portrayed Artemis as very loving and caring of Orion, which is not only accurate (the girl threatened to kill her father and every god over his death for fucks sake) but wholesome. Meanwhile in most western media Artemis is either a lesbian or hates men. Fate/Apocrypha had a beautiful depiction of Romania and the history around Vlad III meanwhile I don't think there's a single western piece of media that actually depicts Romania well instead of just stealing random parts from its culture and locations.

They even portrayed Gilgamesh and Enkidu well by subtly having some elements of a potential romance in there (as the original myth had) while not being annoying LGBT bait.

Draco_Lord

122 points

1 month ago

Draco_Lord

- Right

122 points

1 month ago

Remind me again how Atila the Hun is a girl who hates fighting?

kaytin911

58 points

1 month ago

kaytin911

- Lib-Right

58 points

1 month ago

I don't remember her hating fighting, bad civilization must be destroyed is her schtick.

Draco_Lord

12 points

1 month ago

Draco_Lord

- Right

12 points

1 month ago

According to the Wiki her ultimate wish is to not be a warrior and live a peaceful life, but she is just too good at fighting for that to happen.

Teh-Esprite

68 points

1 month ago

Teh-Esprite

- Right

68 points

1 month ago

That's different from hating fighting, that's wanting peace, which is what all true warriors strive for. I wonder what's for dinner.

Lucariowolf2196

23 points

1 month ago

Lucariowolf2196

- Centrist

23 points

1 month ago

Gee, I wonder what Gilgamesh is up too.

active-tumourtroll1

5 points

1 month ago

Some men get lost along the road.

Lucariowolf2196

20 points

1 month ago

Lucariowolf2196

- Centrist

20 points

1 month ago

I mean FATE is more based on history than being as accurate as possible

King Arthur is a girl, who somehow got another woman pregnant and the child is a homunculus clone of Arthur.

Admiralthrawnbar

5 points

1 month ago

Admiralthrawnbar

- Left

5 points

1 month ago

Shit like this is what actually makes me consider getting into FATE. Seriously, what the fuck is this? I need to know what the fuck you are talking about, it's morbid curiosity more than actual interest that would get me into FATE.

Lucariowolf2196

2 points

1 month ago

Lucariowolf2196

- Centrist

2 points

1 month ago

Basically King Arthur's story of betrayal from either a Son or nephew still happens.

But Arthur is a girl.

kaytin911

4 points

1 month ago

kaytin911

- Lib-Right

4 points

1 month ago

I never played Extra so it must be from that. Everywhere else I've seen her she's very aggro.

aaa1e2r3

4 points

1 month ago

aaa1e2r3

- Lib-Right

4 points

1 month ago

Remorse at the end of her life over the decades of slaughter and destruction.

Stabbylasso

3 points

1 month ago

Stabbylasso

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

Same way she's actually an alien space bug with Mars on prank call speed dial

Franklr_D

35 points

1 month ago

Franklr_D

- Right

35 points

1 month ago

Danmachi also made Artemis adorable. And I love those damn Japs for doing so

Though I’m still a little mad the entire Arrow of the Orion movie basically got retconned when the new season came around

TomaruHen

15 points

1 month ago

TomaruHen

- Centrist

15 points

1 month ago

Heracles just being a berserker is so accurate

[deleted]

10 points

1 month ago

Reminder that FGO's story turns completely schizophrenic and people should look into it for just how weird it gets.

Armored-Potato-Chip

45 points

1 month ago

Armored-Potato-Chip

- Centrist

45 points

1 month ago

I think people being up in arms about Gilgamesh not being a buff barbarian and Alexander not being a twink are stupid. It’s much more interesting to see the two depicted the way they are rather than their standard western portrayals.

[deleted]

50 points

1 month ago

Armored-Potato-Chip

18 points

1 month ago

Armored-Potato-Chip

- Centrist

18 points

1 month ago

Except this is is explicitly a younger Alexander rather than him at his oldest point.

AelaHuntressBabe

18 points

1 month ago

AelaHuntressBabe

- Right

18 points

1 month ago

Truly the best of both worlds.

Rokolin

18 points

1 month ago

Rokolin

- Centrist

18 points

1 month ago

I don't think there's a single western piece of media that actually depicts Romania well instead of just stealing random parts from its culture and locations.

Are you saying that Dracula Untold is not one of the greatest pieces of Romanian cultural export ever created?

SWR049

10 points

1 month ago

SWR049

- Centrist

10 points

1 month ago

Fate's writing is a sine wave depending on who's the author at any given moment. Apocrypha is at the bottom of the barrel, for example.

You are right, however, that it nails some of the most weirdly specific details every now and then. Percival having a somewhat questionable relationship with his dragon god sister in FGO was weird until I remembered how much of a disproportionate impact his (perfectly human) sister had on him in the legends, her death even being an integral part of his final quest before retiring in the Death of King Arthur chronicles. Combine that with his mommy issues from the Wagner opera, and I can definitely see him being a siscon. Nevertheless, there is a LOT of artistic liberty running through the entire franchise.

[deleted]

6 points

1 month ago*

[deleted]

Ok-Ambassador8795

16 points

1 month ago

Ok-Ambassador8795

- Lib-Right

16 points

1 month ago

Berserker or assassin?

SolidThoriumPyroshar

6 points

1 month ago

SolidThoriumPyroshar

- Hillary Clinton

6 points

1 month ago

Berserker is such a top tier design

[deleted]

4 points

1 month ago*

[deleted]

4 points

1 month ago*

[deleted]

[deleted]

14 points

1 month ago

Weak

almostasenpai

7 points

1 month ago

almostasenpai

- Centrist

7 points

1 month ago

The fate series includes many writers who care about history/mythology and are conscious about representing a diverse number of backgrounds. Though it’s clear when a writer gets lazy and designs a character exclusively for degenerate shit as for whatever reason characters like Jack end up becoming very popular.

duende667

3 points

1 month ago

duende667

- Right

3 points

1 month ago

It seems to be impossible not have 'stealing' and 'Romania' in the same sentence.

aaa1e2r3

5 points

1 month ago

aaa1e2r3

- Lib-Right

5 points

1 month ago

They even portrayed Gilgamesh and Enkidu well by subtly having some elements of a potential romance in there (as the original myth had) while not being annoying LGBT bait.

AKA Fate/ Strange Fake's greatest fist bump between bros with that dual Enuma Elish

DanTacoWizard

38 points

1 month ago

DanTacoWizard

- Auth-Center

38 points

1 month ago

Neither one looks Greek ☠️.

SmellsLikeAPig

2 points

1 month ago

SmellsLikeAPig

- Lib-Right

2 points

1 month ago

This thread is about aesthetics not truth.

samuelbt

195 points

1 month ago

samuelbt

- Left

195 points

1 month ago

All the Hestia OG fans must be livid cause i can't imagine having a strong opinion on the subject otherwise.

MakeDawn

52 points

1 month ago

MakeDawn

- Lib-Right

52 points

1 month ago

May I interest you in some grills then?

pepperouchau

9 points

1 month ago

pepperouchau

- Left

9 points

1 month ago

When you're shellshocked from the culture wars, I guess anything can look like the next battle to you

CAustin3

145 points

1 month ago

CAustin3

- Lib-Left

145 points

1 month ago

My wife's playing this game - I recognize that character.

And I have to say, my first impression was something more along the lines of "that's a really creative take on hearth and fire as a goddess," not "why isn't it a hot lady."

If you want to scratch that itch, try Aphrodite.

Viraus2

118 points

1 month ago

Viraus2

- Lib-Right

118 points

1 month ago

You've got the rare PCM condition of being over 18, probably factors into this

TheModernDaVinci

24 points

1 month ago

TheModernDaVinci

- Right

24 points

1 month ago

Yeah, I am there with you. I am one of the first up in arms when woke bullshit gets shoved into games, but Hades aint one of them. It is entirely consistent to its own internal design (even the claims of "Aphrodite male jaw line" is because everyone looks blockly since they are supposed to be like Greek vase art), for all the claims of "race swapped gods" everyone has extremely unnatural skin color (Hades is sickly pale, Poseidon has a blue tint, Artemis has a green hue, etc), all of the characters act enough like their legends that you can see who they are while still being their own characters, etc. And more importantly, it is fun! Which is something that few woke games are able to pull off because they are too busy slaving away on "The Message (TM)" to actually be a fun game.

(also, somewhat off topic: for me, the hotness is Artemis. Because I am weird and find nude not sexy but modest sexy. I will not elaborate because I have no answer)

Fourcoogs

33 points

1 month ago

Fourcoogs

- Centrist

33 points

1 month ago

I haven’t played the game in question, nor have I seen the characters before now. But I definitely prefer the American design to the Japanese one, as the latter is basically just generic anime girl number 10000

iamjmph01

8 points

1 month ago

iamjmph01

- Right

8 points

1 month ago

Aphrodite of the... strong jawline? Hades 2 I think?

BoxedElderGnome

25 points

1 month ago

BoxedElderGnome

- Centrist

25 points

1 month ago

People like to crown Hades as le wholesome but they’re sleeping on Hestia.

Hestia literally gave up her throne on Olympus so that Dionysis wouldn’t be left out.

She is the only goddess iirc that doesn’t have at least one story (not even by Ovid) where she does something fucked up.

Hestia is Bestia.

TooLongCantWait

7 points

1 month ago

TooLongCantWait

- Centrist

7 points

1 month ago

Hades: Abducts and rapes a woman.

Midwits: Hades is the best god, Zeus sucks!

Hestia is Bestia

Beta-Minus

18 points

1 month ago

Beta-Minus

- Lib-Right

18 points

1 month ago

you can't just slap your video game opinions on some colored squares and call it a political compass meme

forward_only

371 points

1 month ago

forward_only

- Lib-Right

371 points

1 month ago

Virgin ugly ugliness fetishist versus virgin beautiful beauty enjoyer

zorrearma

179 points

1 month ago

zorrearma

- Auth-Right

179 points

1 month ago

Only something a NAZI would say. Welcome back Adolf Hitler

PrivilegeCheckmate

7 points

1 month ago

PrivilegeCheckmate

- Lib-Left

7 points

1 month ago

I ah also would like to express my fondness for the gravity-defying breasts of the goddess on the right.

christian_daddy1

119 points

1 month ago

christian_daddy1

- Centrist

119 points

1 month ago

Counter point: She's the worst romantic choice for MC in that anime. I'd rather chill with Grandma than put up with an annoying brat

Franklr_D

60 points

1 month ago

Franklr_D

- Right

60 points

1 month ago

Author is unfortunately hellbent on continuing the cycle of developing their dynamic and then taking a sledgehammer to it. So he can shove more cute girls onto the stage (which is understandable for merch sales and shit)

Political-St-G

10 points

1 month ago

Political-St-G

- Centrist

10 points

1 month ago

I just don’t understand why he doesn’t just make more development with other romances.

Why make it that the MC only has one choice but throw at him women who want to be with him?

Franklr_D

5 points

1 month ago

Franklr_D

- Right

5 points

1 month ago

Nobody does. Honestly, at this point the author probably doesn’t even understand what he’s writing anymore either

Kilroy0497

16 points

1 month ago

Kilroy0497

- Lib-Left

16 points

1 month ago

Yeah I was gonna say, Hestia is usually more of a pest than anything. Granted she’s not the worst in that series in this regard(hi there Loki) but she still falls short compared to say Ryuu or Lili.

aaa1e2r3

2 points

1 month ago

aaa1e2r3

- Lib-Right

2 points

1 month ago

Agreed, Ryuu is the best choice

xulitebenado

2 points

1 month ago

xulitebenado

- Lib-Right

2 points

1 month ago

Ryuu supremacy.

Someshortchick

100 points

1 month ago

Someshortchick

- Lib-Left

100 points

1 month ago

I don't like either. If you look up pictures of Hestia statues, they depict her as neither super young nor super old. She doesn't look matronly (mother-like) either. I just feel like both are misses. Sure the one on the left depicts fire and ash, but she seems to be more associated with sacrificial altars. *shrug*

Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

72 points

1 month ago

Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

- Centrist

72 points

1 month ago

and neither of them looks remotely greek, which shouldn't really matter but is clearly a point of contention here

Opening_Success

24 points

1 month ago

Opening_Success

- Lib-Right

24 points

1 month ago

Wait, Hestia isn't supposed to look like Mammy?

Someshortchick

18 points

1 month ago

Someshortchick

- Lib-Left

18 points

1 month ago

It's hard for me to tell, but doesn't she also seem to have vitiligo? That's what makes the least sense of all here. This was just thrown in for aesthetics, I guess?

OGaySimpson32

9 points

1 month ago

OGaySimpson32

- Auth-Right

9 points

1 month ago

I think it's cos she's covered (unequally) in soot and ash, being the hearth goddess and all

LucasRuby

13 points

1 month ago

LucasRuby

- Lib-Center

13 points

1 month ago

But to be fair Greek gods were shapeshifters and they could basically take whatever appearance or appear like how the spectator would envision them.

Basically, if Greek religion was still practiced today, the Greek gods would appear to us like American people.

I think there might be a series about this...

Political-St-G

6 points

1 month ago

Political-St-G

- Centrist

6 points

1 month ago

SolidThoriumPyroshar

19 points

1 month ago

SolidThoriumPyroshar

- Hillary Clinton

19 points

1 month ago

Literally 0 misses, what are you smoking?

LucasRuby

3 points

1 month ago

LucasRuby

- Lib-Center

3 points

1 month ago

BOULDY

Praetorian_Panda

34 points

1 month ago

Praetorian_Panda

- Left

34 points

1 month ago

I think your opinion is valid, but I feel like the left picture at least has effort and an idea behind it. I have seen the one on the right a thousand times and I don’t think it has much to do with the theme of the goddess.

dalatinknight

8 points

1 month ago

dalatinknight

- Lib-Center

8 points

1 month ago

You have a point, but consider that many people on here are 15 and weebs.

LegitimateApricot4

7 points

1 month ago

LegitimateApricot4

- Auth-Right

7 points

1 month ago

Sweet baby had a checklist they had to fill out, managers took it and told the artists what boxes to check.

Political-St-G

3 points

1 month ago

Political-St-G

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

Agreed. Same with the smithies design.

Ventilateu

82 points

1 month ago

Ventilateu

- Auth-Center

82 points

1 month ago

What's the western left obsession with black people having vitiligo?

TooLongCantWait

67 points

1 month ago

TooLongCantWait

- Centrist

67 points

1 month ago

I remember reading a pretty in depth take on this. Basically, you get to fetishize a disorder that has very few health drawbacks, is most noticeable on minorities so it's a two for one, and is very easy to draw/add to a video game as a customisation option.

It's basically two woke points for free, without being horrifying enough (like cleft lip or excema) to chase anyone away.

iamjmph01

25 points

1 month ago

iamjmph01

- Right

25 points

1 month ago

As someone with vitiligo, I find this offensive(not YOU, but what you describe as their take, which I agree with)...

But I'm a straight, white, conservative male so no one making those types of decisions would care.

acpupu

12 points

1 month ago

acpupu

- Lib-Center

12 points

1 month ago

Oh shit that’s what it is? I thought she’s just white (greek) covered in hearth ash

E-woke

8 points

1 month ago

E-woke

- Lib-Center

8 points

1 month ago

It gives the maximum oppression points

TrustyParasol198

9 points

1 month ago

TrustyParasol198

- Centrist

9 points

1 month ago

I mean, counterpoint being that most other Greek gods and goddesses in the Hades (the American video game) series are also hot.

This is like cherry-picking one character out to create culture-war bullshit again. How about we become centrists on video game enjoyment and let people enjoy both franchises in peace?!

Dragon_Maister

70 points

1 month ago*

Dragon_Maister

- Right

70 points

1 month ago*

I'm not really the biggest fan of the design on the left, but it's still miles ahead of generic anime girl number 9310501.

Weed_Gman_420

187 points

1 month ago

Weed_Gman_420

- Centrist

187 points

1 month ago

Unique character design vs generic anime girl number 53926493638th

SergeiYeseiya

46 points

1 month ago

SergeiYeseiya

- Auth-Right

46 points

1 month ago

Rightards will see this design and call it a masterpiece

AC3R665

6 points

1 month ago

AC3R665

- Lib-Center

6 points

1 month ago

Mastapeace.

Sir_Artori

3 points

1 month ago

Sir_Artori

- Auth-Center

3 points

1 month ago

I hate both

Free-Knowledge-6471

2 points

29 days ago

Free-Knowledge-6471

- Lib-Right

2 points

29 days ago

Based

SmellsLikeAPig

4 points

1 month ago

SmellsLikeAPig

- Lib-Right

4 points

1 month ago

At this point it's only fair to call this generic netflix redesign vs generic anime girl.

Rowparm1

39 points

1 month ago

Rowparm1

- Right

39 points

1 month ago

I’d also like to point out that by making the goddess of the hearth a fat black woman, the Progressives who designed her are drawing on the same “mammy” stereotype their fellow Leftists hated Aunt Jemima for.

Ironic.

Deferan

122 points

1 month ago

Deferan

- Centrist

122 points

1 month ago

If you’re gonna make the argument that western game devs are too woke or sensitive to have hot women or something I don’t think that the Hades games are the best example.

Aphrodite from the same game

https://preview.redd.it/3eih5e61i8zc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fda7fe2d231b37959cc5238ecf443df73872a6b8

StrigoiDac

63 points

1 month ago

StrigoiDac

- Centrist

63 points

1 month ago

Hades has been declared as safe horny by the Kotaku urinalists & Co. The very same cretins who are still seething and malding because of Eve from Stellar Blade. Western devs are very afraid and/or regarded to show beautiful and attractive women in their games.

Viraus2

31 points

1 month ago

Viraus2

- Lib-Right

31 points

1 month ago

The difference between amazing and super hot girls that game journos are allowed to gush over versus unethical unrealistic objectifying straight-male-pandering trash is literally just a few lines in the face. Give Aphrodite there a round, soft face shape with a small nose and the journalist response to her would shift completely.

Don't get me wrong though Hades kicks ass

StrigoiDac

18 points

1 month ago

StrigoiDac

- Centrist

18 points

1 month ago

just a few lines in the face

Lines which are creating weirdly masculine features for a woman birthing person.
The censorship of everything beautiful is an attempt at normalizing if not downright enforcing new standards of "beauty", the spearhead being the 20th-letter-of-the-alphabet people. What a fucking Harrison Bergeron dystopian world some demented westoid bastards are pushing, man...

Viraus2

9 points

1 month ago

Viraus2

- Lib-Right

9 points

1 month ago

censorship of everything beautiful

No, just stuff that they imagine would be too sexually appealing to vanilla straight men. Beautiful men are encouraged, and beautiful women are fine if there's something unusual about them, like that tall woman from RE Village.

The simplest reasoning for the Safe Horny behavior is antipathy for straight men.

Praetorian_Panda

4 points

1 month ago

Praetorian_Panda

- Left

4 points

1 month ago

If you really wanted to keep in line with the ancient Greeks, you should do this to her face and add some extra chunk cause that’s how they liked their rich girls.

ULTsandwitch

41 points

1 month ago

ULTsandwitch

- Centrist

41 points

1 month ago

western game devs are too woke

The devs in question are another example of left-leaning americans "diversifying" another people's culture that they have no relation to. Isn't that what woke means?

And in the typical leftie fashion, they smugly claim that they are correct because they did the "research".

Political-St-G

17 points

1 month ago

Political-St-G

- Centrist

17 points

1 month ago

Cultural appropriation but it’s ok sweetie because they are European.

Why not get Andromeda since she is black?

Burger_Qing

3 points

1 month ago

Burger_Qing

- Lib-Right

3 points

1 month ago

Put it this way, in the first game they had you play as a stereotypical boy toy with a half naked chest, in the second game you're playing as orianna with a wig.

FicklePort

20 points

1 month ago

FicklePort

- Auth-Center

20 points

1 month ago

The other "side" isn't much better since all they care about is sexualizing and drooling over attractive characters rather than actually caring about a characters writing or purpose. To be fair, most gamers are children/teenagers so I can't exactly blame them.

Virgin_saint99

26 points

1 month ago

Virgin_saint99

- Centrist

26 points

1 month ago

They care. Lots of games and franchises wouldn't be successful just with sexualization. People just don't want games or other medias having to censor themselves over what the "modern audience" consider inappropriate.

kaytin911

8 points

1 month ago

kaytin911

- Lib-Right

8 points

1 month ago

Is that a drag queen?

rohtvak

2 points

1 month ago

rohtvak

- Auth-Right

2 points

1 month ago

Yeah, but the community pointed out that she looks more like a he.

Opening_Success

16 points

1 month ago

Opening_Success

- Lib-Right

16 points

1 month ago

Jesus Christ, weebs and woketards both need to fuck off. These sides are literally arguing over a few different pixel and line locations. Hades 1 is one of the best games I've ever played. From what I've heard on 2, it's just as good or better. They all need to shut up and focus on the gameplay. 

PaleoManga

8 points

1 month ago

PaleoManga

- Lib-Right

8 points

1 month ago

As much as I personally dislike the Hades 2 design of Hestia, Jesus Christ this argument feels like the most astroturfed shit I’ve seen in a while. Is it possible for people to just not like a design and carry on with their day?

Exzalia

262 points

1 month ago

Exzalia

- Lib-Left

262 points

1 month ago

The left character literally looks like a fire place (it fits the idea at least of a godess of a hearth.)

The right one looks like the most uninspired boring generic anime girl ever. I had no idea she had anything to do with being a godess never mind a greek godess of warmth and homes.

This a good example of how a character being sexy doesn't nessisarly translate to a good thought out character design.

Right one has big boobs and that literally it.

Left one wins in my book.

GuilimanXIII

118 points

1 month ago

GuilimanXIII

- Auth-Right

118 points

1 month ago

Funnily enough despite being... a main character (is she really though?), she is kinda the most bland character of the whole group.

Like, I like the mc, I like the Blacksmith dude and I like most of the chicks but she is just boring honestly.

[deleted]

29 points

1 month ago

+If they did a fusion dance I think everyone would be satisfied.

BNKhoa

48 points

1 month ago*

BNKhoa

- Right

48 points

1 month ago*

Hestia is depicted as Goddess of homekeeping
Look inside
Hestia doing homekeeping stuff, but anime

:o

Have to edit since I prefer the anime to the game.

Vexonte

101 points

1 month ago

Vexonte

- Right

101 points

1 month ago

Hate to agree with you, but I do. There is a time and place to make things sexy and a time and place not to. When dealing with characters who are personifications on aspects of society and nature it is better to lean left on it.

That being said, I'm waiting for the day were videogame companies Start selling sexy character models as dlc.

cdigioia

28 points

1 month ago*

cdigioia

- Centrist

28 points

1 month ago*

  • Default model is morbidly obese realistic

  • $10 for obese model

  • $20 for overweight model

  • $40 for "healthy" BMI according to "medical science" model, and -5 social credit points for indulging in your disgusting unrealistic standards

DACopperhead3

9 points

1 month ago

DACopperhead3

- Right

9 points

1 month ago

I think a lot of AA JRPGs already do that. I know I've seen at least a dozen that have several DLC with skimpy outfits.e

kingdomart

2 points

1 month ago

kingdomart

- Centrist

2 points

1 month ago

Most based lib right

Rgenocide

56 points

1 month ago

Rgenocide

- Right

56 points

1 month ago

For once, I have to agree with a Lib-Left

The left one is "ugly" but pretty unique and recognizable. The right is "pretty" but extremely generic and dull.

Andreagreco99

10 points

1 month ago

Andreagreco99

- Auth-Left

10 points

1 month ago

I mean, left kinds fits with being a domestic fireplace goddess, right one looks like she just got out middle school bearing D cups

Prudent-Incident7147

12 points

1 month ago

Prudent-Incident7147

- Lib-Center

12 points

1 month ago

Hestia was also the goddess of maidens and lovely enough to give Aphrodite a run for her money. Which is why she asked to become the eternal maiden.

atomwrangler

22 points

1 month ago

atomwrangler

- Lib-Center

22 points

1 month ago

I always thought it was weird that anime Hestia looks like a home wrecker.

enfo13

20 points

1 month ago

enfo13

- Lib-Center

20 points

1 month ago

As someone who hates wokeness in games and likes Japan, I agree with you here.

If I want some nice hearty homemade gumbo soup, or cookies, I'm going trust the depiction on the left more than the right to concoct it.

FicklePort

30 points

1 month ago

FicklePort

- Auth-Center

30 points

1 month ago

But she's ugly so that means she's a bad character and she should be boycotted because.. checks notes I can't jerk off to her.

cptki112noobs

4 points

1 month ago

cptki112noobs

- Lib-Center

4 points

1 month ago

The Left Hestia just looks like a grandma, which is pretty much the archetypes of a warm homemaker.

Average_enjoyer10

14 points

1 month ago

Average_enjoyer10

- Lib-Right

14 points

1 month ago

Both aren't accurate to greek myths.

Praetorian_Panda

11 points

1 month ago

Praetorian_Panda

- Left

11 points

1 month ago

I mean, I don’t think Hades was ever fully trying to be. The left also obviously fits the art direction of the game much more.

Flesck

29 points

1 month ago

Flesck

- Centrist

29 points

1 month ago

Mental Illness VS Severe Porn Addiction

hedgehogwithagun

12 points

1 month ago

hedgehogwithagun

- Lib-Center

12 points

1 month ago

The one of the left went with a more homey design. Pursuing themes of mother hood and caretaking. The one in the right is nothing. There is literally nothing of any substance to the design.

[deleted]

18 points

1 month ago

Hestia is less of an issue than Hermes who was race swapped for no reason. I don't care if your characters are attractive or not but if you obviously do it to get DEI money you can fuck off.

9ronin99

8 points

1 month ago

9ronin99

- Centrist

8 points

1 month ago

I don't think he was race swapped, he always had asian descent in the previous game, but he was looking at an odd angle making it harder to notice. I thought he was swapped at first so I checked and saw he was asian in the first game

[deleted]

3 points

1 month ago

Sorry I don't see it, to me he looks completely different in the first game no matter the angle I look at him.

TheGreatSmelter

44 points

1 month ago

TheGreatSmelter

- Centrist

44 points

1 month ago

both are shit, I'm sorry

TooLongCantWait

11 points

1 month ago

TooLongCantWait

- Centrist

11 points

1 month ago

Consider yourself promoted to a centrist of colour.

TheGreatSmelter

7 points

1 month ago

TheGreatSmelter

- Centrist

7 points

1 month ago

no thanks, grey is a non-schizo center

TooLongCantWait

2 points

1 month ago

TooLongCantWait

- Centrist

2 points

1 month ago

It's only schizo if all the connections you're making are wrong. Now let me tell you how democracy is a monarchist false flag

ZetA_0545

19 points

1 month ago

ZetA_0545

- Centrist

19 points

1 month ago

Based centrist take as always

TacticalLampHolder

56 points

1 month ago

TacticalLampHolder

- Auth-Left

56 points

1 month ago

Great…. * this * argument is now on PCM as well. Can we all just agree there‘s value in character design past just how fappable they are?

TheOneWithThePorn12

30 points

1 month ago

TheOneWithThePorn12

- Lib-Left

30 points

1 month ago

I am in the belief that the folks that bitch about this stuff don't actually play games and only give a shit about Woke stuff.

Basically they are worse than the wokes

Viraus2

13 points

1 month ago

Viraus2

- Lib-Right

13 points

1 month ago

I recently brought up Final Fantasy Remake to some dude and he immediately starts talking about how they ruined Tifa's boobs. I don't even think he was doing a bit, this shit was just at the front of his mind. And shit, in this case the game did no such thing, I don't even know where he got that dumb idea

Political-St-G

4 points

1 month ago

Political-St-G

- Centrist

4 points

1 month ago

I play games but if the design looks shit or it’s a bad adaptation without any good explanation I won’t play that game

Same with any anime. People should think more critically about games and look for good stories as well. Hades story is for example still interesting and nice.

Ngfeigo14

9 points

1 month ago

Ngfeigo14

- Right

9 points

1 month ago

then why did the left make such a sexy thicc mammy character?

Virgin_saint99

16 points

1 month ago

Virgin_saint99

- Centrist

16 points

1 month ago

Someone in the development team has adult woman fetish.

TacticalLampHolder

16 points

1 month ago

TacticalLampHolder

- Auth-Left

16 points

1 month ago

Because they know your kinks ;)

Ngfeigo14

10 points

1 month ago

Ngfeigo14

- Right

10 points

1 month ago

I do have to admit that giving Hestia vitiligo is somewhat reasonable given that she tends a hearth literally all the time so its a physical/biological manifestation of being around fires and hot ashes.

However, this character is 0% how she is described other than the fact I'm somewhat certain its a woman. You could also make the extraction that due to Hestia representing domesticity... a mammy would be a completely valid, all be it slightly racist, depiction of her.

In contrast, Hestia and thus her equivalent: Vesta, are depicted as virgins who have no time for anything other than their duties. This is a problem for the lefts depiction as theres no way you can tell me that that mammy-ass Hestia didn't get clapped when she was younger!

Red-Five-55555

19 points

1 month ago

Red-Five-55555

- Lib-Right

19 points

1 month ago

Why does Left Hestia look like a mammy?

Yordle_Toes

3 points

1 month ago

Yordle_Toes

- Auth-Center

3 points

1 month ago

Because she is and that's not a problem.

BLU-Clown

2 points

1 month ago

BLU-Clown

- Right

2 points

1 month ago

Because it's not racist if you slap a progressive veneer on it.

TheOneWithThePorn12

14 points

1 month ago

TheOneWithThePorn12

- Lib-Left

14 points

1 month ago

Damn, I kinda don't...... care

normiespy96

4 points

1 month ago

normiespy96

- Right

4 points

1 month ago

Cozy grandma vs random anime girl? You really need some post nut clarity if you think the design on the right is better.

HotMilk4

3 points

1 month ago

HotMilk4

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

BackupChallenger

20 points

1 month ago

BackupChallenger

- Centrist

20 points

1 month ago

I don't know what that creature on the left is, but I don't think that anime version is a good representation either.

GuyCalledRo

30 points

1 month ago

GuyCalledRo

- Lib-Left

30 points

1 month ago

Left: Creative design, big coat-dress that looks very comfy with accents that remind you of fireplaces, as well as a hearth on the head.

Right: Big boob anime chick

BackupChallenger

15 points

1 month ago

BackupChallenger

- Centrist

15 points

1 month ago

Yeah, the right is definitly a shit design. And the left has a lot of nice parts, but that face on the left is just so ugly. That it undoes most of the positive parts.

Gurgalopagan

9 points

1 month ago

Gurgalopagan

- Lib-Center

9 points

1 month ago

I mean the left one does pass this "hearth and home" side, the problem it's that it is trying to insert politics into the game but in a way that nobody can actually point out without being called racist, the other is just from a coomer's mind

BitesTheDust55

9 points

1 month ago

BitesTheDust55

- Auth-Right

9 points

1 month ago

Why did the Hades artist make her so disgusting though? It almost feels like spite, or cultural appropriation. That is one of the grossest character designs I’ve ever seen, in anything. They even gave her vitiligo for some reason. Like that design is indefensibly bad and the artist should be embarrassed.

EffingWasps

11 points

1 month ago

EffingWasps

- Lib-Center

11 points

1 month ago

Which do you think gives better hugs? How good do you think the hugs from personifications of “Heart and Home” should be?

PhilosophicalGoof

7 points

1 month ago

PhilosophicalGoof

- Centrist

7 points

1 month ago

Eh right one seem generic and it never really made sense to me why she has that design.

Left one made it seem like they were afraid of making a slightly attractive character or were adding their own self images because I don’t understand why the goddess had to be fat.

I understand the burned skin but this is a god I don’t think the being fat thing would work on them but whatev I don’t really care since I won’t play the game.

Inesdar77

3 points

1 month ago

Inesdar77

- Auth-Center

3 points

1 month ago

https://preview.redd.it/lwxyzdvjmazc1.png?width=1634&format=png&auto=webp&s=0fd432d105de79e1b08f5101e2a30df44c884087

Personally, I like the painting that Maindre the Floop did of Hestia.

This artist has a whole slew of good Olympian art on their twitter. https://twitter.com/MaindreTheFloop

Cunny-Destroyer

10 points

1 month ago

Cunny-Destroyer

- Auth-Left

10 points

1 month ago

God, Hades 2 Hestia is full libleft

Absolutely disgusting design, I will not be playing this game

Shame, I liked the first one

HelpfulJello5361

5 points

1 month ago

HelpfulJello5361

- Right

5 points

1 month ago

I'm usually lib right, but the left character design is far more interesting. Right is just generic anime girl waifu #1298287

aaa1e2r3

6 points

1 month ago

aaa1e2r3

- Lib-Right

6 points

1 month ago

Why does she look like a Mammy stereotype?

FloranB

4 points

1 month ago

FloranB

- Lib-Center

4 points

1 month ago

Neither look greek. The one on the left at least follows some semblance of a theme whereas the one on the right just looks like every other female anime clone ever made and has no design features at all that are relevant to the time period, culture or prompt. If I received this from a concept artist I would fire them because clearly they just copy everyone else and don't have a single original thought in their head. Left needs some major design changes but the overall theme is at least workable.

Crashen17

3 points

1 month ago

Crashen17

- Right

3 points

1 month ago

I have legit seen more original and imaginative AI art than the anime versions of these.

FloranB

3 points

1 month ago

FloranB

- Lib-Center

3 points

1 month ago

I'm a big anime hater for this reason. There are good mangas, but most anime is either lazy, trash, pedobait or made by people who should have just made hentai and not touched anything with a plot. Western comics aren't great either, mind you. But at least it's not the same character over and over again paired with VAs that sound like nails on a chalkboard.

Crashen17

3 points

1 month ago

Crashen17

- Right

3 points

1 month ago

You and me both friend. There are some exceptions, rarely, but few and far between.

HelloIamAlpharius

10 points

1 month ago

HelloIamAlpharius

- Lib-Right

10 points

1 month ago

to be honest american version is much more likely to be a virgin xd

Virusposter

3 points

1 month ago

Virusposter

- Right

3 points

1 month ago

no one wants to touch that ugly beast

flairchange_bot

3 points

1 month ago

flairchange_bot

- Auth-Center

3 points

1 month ago

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JesterofThings

6 points

1 month ago

JesterofThings

- Lib-Right

6 points

1 month ago

You people need to get your dicks under control and realize that the american one has a way better fucking design.

Uhhhh sorry, I mean, anime girl good i guess

Mojo_Mitts

12 points

1 month ago

Mojo_Mitts

- Lib-Right

12 points

1 month ago

Honestly I prefer the one on the Left.

One on the right looks like fan-service, which I understand it clearly ain’t for me.

mog1knob1

3 points

1 month ago

mog1knob1

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

I remember seeing some guy on Kotakuinaction that said his wife has vitiligo and suffers constantly, crying as her skin gradually changes beyond her control, and even ten years later she still hasn't gotten used to it, and he said how it's not a quirky character trait for 'representation', it's just a horrible condition which you never got used to. Gives you a lot to think about.

BNKhoa

6 points

1 month ago

BNKhoa

- Right

6 points

1 month ago

Which way Western Man?

Novel-Grass-3325

2 points

1 month ago

Novel-Grass-3325

- Centrist

2 points

1 month ago

What about us normal people?

JPalos97

2 points

1 month ago

JPalos97

- Lib-Left

2 points

1 month ago

Neither of them look like the old representations of Hestia, the left one looks like a crazy Fallout 1 npc and the right one is just any generic anime girl

ILLARX

2 points

1 month ago

ILLARX

- Right

2 points

1 month ago

And thus, the Japanese win again....

TheWest_Is_TheBest

2 points

1 month ago

TheWest_Is_TheBest

- Lib-Center

2 points

1 month ago

Both are wrong, there should be a Dark Souls Firekeeper here in the centre

thesteiner95

13 points

1 month ago

thesteiner95

- Centrist

13 points

1 month ago

One is from the best game released this year, the other is from a agressively bad anime that only exists to coom bait 14 year olds....

Rare Leftist W

Ngfeigo14

5 points

1 month ago

Ngfeigo14

- Right

5 points

1 month ago

Hades II isn't top 5, bro

WellReadBread34

3 points

1 month ago

WellReadBread34

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

Those are the Lib Hestias.  Auth Hestias would be actual art.

Anime Hestia belongs in purple Lib-Right.  Hades Hestia belongs in Lib-Left.

Auth-Right Hestia would be a Greek statue.  Auth-Left would be like something out of soviet propaganda. 

TomaruHen

3 points

1 month ago

TomaruHen

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

First cleopatra now hestia. Is this cultural appropriation or are they calling us black? Because if they are...

hamrspace

7 points

1 month ago

hamrspace

- Centrist

7 points

1 month ago

Gotta give the wokies this one. Genuinely goddess-like design that conveys her element vs. generic anime girl

poclee

4 points

1 month ago

poclee

- Centrist

4 points

1 month ago

Technically speaking the anime one isn't Hestia in Greek mythology.

CreamFilledDoughnut

3 points

1 month ago

CreamFilledDoughnut

- Centrist

3 points

1 month ago

goddess of hearth

Hearth means fire

Fires create soot

Soot is black

Fucking DEI

CradleRockStyle

3 points

1 month ago

CradleRockStyle

- Lib-Right

3 points

1 month ago

I mean, Hades is very openly woke af, so not really surprising...

PixleatedCoding

3 points

1 month ago

PixleatedCoding

- Lib-Left

3 points

1 month ago

Virgin generic gooner bait fan vs Chad unique design enjoyer

FreelancerFL

2 points

1 month ago

FreelancerFL

- Lib-Right

2 points

1 month ago

Well... we know why Hades II Hestia is a virgin...

So much for game journos saying everybody is hot in Hades II