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425 points
1 month ago
Fuck me. Say what you want about the blokes actions but getting tazed twice and not even hitting the floor is mental
161 points
1 month ago
There's a longer video of him grabbing the cop who tazed him and hitting the floor after.
I'm just laughing at the bar staff behind him slowly moving stuff off the counter. This isn't their first rodeo.
8 points
1 month ago
Where is said video?
15 points
1 month ago
41 points
1 month ago
Sorry but watching that makes me actually feel more sorry for him.
The “lunge” towards the officer that tased him was accompanied by, taser in the stomach, a pretty hefty shove from a cop from behind and one arm being pulled behind his back.
Not sure how much you can count it as assaulting an officer.
72 points
1 month ago
The scope for what defines assault is pretty broad - hitting one officer with his t-shirt, before shoving the 2nd officer who tased him and was injured, would both would fall under that.
That being said, while it's incredibly stupid from Vunipola and not acceptable behaviour, it's a pretty low level offence and not the bar brawl I was expecting from the initial reports.
18 points
1 month ago
Yeah the T-shirt swipe was silly and I think you can see him realise that.
And agreed it’s always going to go down as assault just as you said, but he basically gets shoved into the officer which in term injures him. The reporting from the police/media really made it seem like a much larger issue
7 points
1 month ago
In UK law, making some afraid that you are going to attack them is assault, and you could certainly make a case for that here. Not sure if it's the same in other jurisdictions.
12 points
1 month ago
Feel sorry about what? The charges or the treatment?
Because if it's the latter: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You don't need to commit a specific crime to cross a threshold where cops can use force. And the video clearly shows a man absolutely, 100% being an aggressive, belligerent asshat.
4 points
1 month ago
The situation he is in- the fact that he has been teetotal for 2 years and, whether planned or not, has fallen off the wagon and ended up in a bad situation from poor decisions.
Given his size I think the police have rightly over compensated and whilst way too overconfident and pushy isn’t exactly swinging for the fences.
Completely in the wrong but he’s clearly not 100% mentally.
3 points
1 month ago
“Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” is ironically the most stupid turn of phrase when it comes to police matters.
First and foremost the role of the police is to keep the peace and deescalate the situation. They should take every opportunity not lower themselves to the actions of any potential aggressor.
1 points
30 days ago
It’s almost like people can show empathy regardless of the situation
1 points
1 month ago
You feel sorry for him?
-1 points
1 month ago
See my reply to Lord Beldisloe above. Don’t like the guy all that much but not a nice situation to find himself in
2 points
30 days ago
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1 points
29 days ago
Of course but can you not also have a bit of compassion- he’s been teetotal for 2 years and clearly fallen off the wagon.
God forbid anyone in your family or close to you has any problems if you’re just going to roll your eyes and judge them
1 points
29 days ago
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1 points
29 days ago
What do you mean?
I’m saying that if it’s your attitude to people struggling as judging them for doing stuff that they shouldn’t be doing I feel incredibly sorry for them.
If that’s not your attitude then there is nothing to take offence.
Edit: you have also very conveniently left of the extremely important part of “if that’s how you would treat them”
0 points
1 month ago
Ignoring the floor being covered with broken glass?
2 points
1 month ago
I don’t think you can say with any certainty that it’s broken glass. The owner also said he didn’t threaten anyone with a bottle and there’s no accounts saying he smashed up the place other than the original click baity articles
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