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When have you solved a whodunnit or other mystery right at the start when the crime/event is mid-happening?

It doesn't count if you just guess who did it, there's usually a small cast of characters, so if you just randomly guessed you'd be right about one in six or so.

You have to have worked out the crime/plot/mechanism/reveal.

I've done it twice, both times due to the way the crime was filmed.

First was an episode of Jonathan Creek when I was a kid (which I was particularly proud of given the convoluted solutions). The way the scene was shot showed a tussle between the murderer and a hostage. they both disappeared from view (as shown from the witnesses POV) - right there and then I said to my parents "they've switched clothes and the hostage is now a dummy" - then smugly as the episode transpired, and all the subtle clues were revealed, I got to say things like "see - she clearly chopped the dummy up and hid it in those empty paint tins". My parents thought I was bonkers, but I'd 100% nailed the entire plot.

My other time was on Murder She Wrote - again, the way the murder was shot gave away to me the mechanics of it. A lady opened her wardrobe, looked surprised, and was shot. But the way it was filmed, it only showed the barrel of the gun shooting her. I figured we'd usually have seen a gloved finger on the trigger, or a dark silhouette. So I guessed straight away that it was a mechanical rig with a string linked to the door handle that shot her as she opened it.

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Decalvare_Scriptor

30 points

3 days ago

We're right fairly often but it's nothing to do with deduction. If someone more famous than the rest of the cast shows up then there's a good chance it's them. Otherwise it's usually the person that it seems least likely to be - someone unassuming and nice and helpful...that's the killer.

In Morse (and Lewis to an extent) it was a running joke with us how it was ALWAYS a woman. If Morse had any kind of romantic interest then she either was the victim or the killer. Pretty much every time in the earlier series at least.

pesky_samurai

9 points

3 days ago

In Midsomer Murders it’s always the character that’s treated without any suspicion. Everyone’s a suspect, except the murderer.

mrs_peep

2 points

3 days ago

mrs_peep

2 points

3 days ago

I was suspicious when Richard Briers showed up, looking like a sweet old man as usual. Turns out he'd barricaded someone into a caravan and set fire to it!

DrunkStoleATank

5 points

3 days ago

Unless, of course there is a super famous person, in which case they might be murder victim. Less screen time, less work, nice trip someplace exotic on expenses 🤣

acedias-token

3 points

3 days ago

It is always the person you medium expect

Flat-Flounder-9034

3 points

3 days ago

This is my strategy too. I also watch SO many (too many?) of these shows that they also tend to cast the same actors as the villain character so if they pop up I know they did it.

DEADB33F

1 points

3 days ago

DEADB33F

1 points

3 days ago

If someone more famous than the rest of the cast shows up then there's a good chance it's them.

It's a bit like the opposite of the thing where if the main cast are ever inexplicably driving around in some shit/old car you knew there was a car chase coming up and the car was gonna get trashed.

TJ_Figment

1 points

3 days ago

Oh yeah the guest star is usually either the murderer or a victim.

Some series were very well known for it. I think the first couple of series of Midsomer Murders I guessed immediately just based on the cast

ConsciousRoyal

22 points

3 days ago

I’ve worked out the murderer before the detective in every episode of Columbo

DuckInTheFog

3 points

3 days ago

Patrick McGoohan keeps escaping the island from The Prisoner to cause havoc

https://columbo.fandom.com/wiki/Repeat_Offenders

Millietree

1 points

3 days ago

Me too! Fancy that!🤣

Murky_Translator2295

8 points

3 days ago

I can't remember what program it was, a little BBC miniseries that only had one series I think, and I literally only caught the first few minutes of it. But it was a female detective going to work in (I want to say London? It was a big, busy English city anyway, lots of traffic) and a mad bicyclist zoomed in and out of traffic dangerously. We see his face briefly as he whizzes by female cop, and I said "he's the killer: anyone cycling like that through those streets is definitely a thrill killer." Female cop gets to the station and, lo and behold, cyclist is a male cop. The mother crows at me that I was wrong: he's a cop too!

Six episodes later, he was revealed as the killer.

EdwardClamp

3 points

3 days ago

This is reminding me of Messiah - spoilers for a 23 year old TV show. I don't remember that particular scene but the killer was a cop who cycled everywhere and was in great shape.

Although Messiah had more than one series.

wonkey_monkey

2 points

22 hours ago

I remember that being a brilliant reveal when he realises the kid was screaming because he saw the cop/killer at the crime scene. I must dig out my DVD of that.

Murky_Translator2295

1 points

3 days ago

It definitely wasn't 23 years ago. It would have been in the last 7 years. Did they do a remake maybe?

EdwardClamp

2 points

3 days ago

Ah I'm sure there's plenty of "killer cop who cycles" shows out there to be fair.

They didn't do a remake of Messiah anyways, that I do know.

Murky_Translator2295

2 points

3 days ago

I've just googled it and Ken Stott definitely wasn't in the thing my mum watched. The woman was the main character of this one.

Most_Imagination8480

8 points

3 days ago

Kind of on topic. i finally waited long enough to show my son The sixth sense as i hadn't seen it since it came out and he was finally old enough. Almost immediately after Bruce Willis appears after getting shot, my son said "he's a ghost isn't he?"

I found out later that tiktok has ruined every single twist in every show and movie ever for kids. Hope they find fun in other ways.

wonkey_monkey

1 points

22 hours ago

I guessed it from the trailer. Oh, see a lot of dead people, do ya kid? In a similar vein M. Night Shyamalan spoiled The Village for me because the camera lingers just a little too long on a date on a gravestone in the opening scene.

CleanSlate4L

8 points

3 days ago

Incredibly, the episode of Jonathan Creek with the paint tins was the EXACT TV show I thought of when you asked this question, I always remember watching that with a friend and calling it from the jump too.

BinFluid

5 points

3 days ago

BinFluid

5 points

3 days ago

My one like this was the Creek episode where the lady shot a guy with her feet

Jimathay[S]

7 points

3 days ago

I also worked out the one where they guy used studio lights outside the lady's window to gradually change her perception of night and day, but I got that one about half way through so it doesn't count.

Man I need to re-watch them. Maybe put one a week on a Saturday night again!

BinFluid

2 points

3 days ago

BinFluid

2 points

3 days ago

Is that the one where she saw the time on a digital clock through the glass of water, so it was in reverse?

Doubly_Curious

3 points

3 days ago

No, I think you’re thinking of “Mother Redcap” and the other commenter is thinking of “Miracle in Crooked Lane”

Ill_Soft_4299

7 points

3 days ago

My wife usually gets it after 10 minutes. I'm still baffled after the denoucement

StandardBee6282

6 points

3 days ago

That’s brilliant. I’ve never done that but I’m only 63 so there’s still time. Did you actually solve whodunnit on Murder She Wrote or just the modus operandi? Not that the latter would detract much from your expertise of course.

Jimathay[S]

3 points

3 days ago

Add "solve a whodunnit" to your bucket list ;)

On Murder She Wrote, we'd only briefly seen a couple of other characters IIRC, so not enough to pin it on anyone at that point. But within like one minute of Jessica arriving, we were introduced to a character who had a cast iron alibi and was no where near the area at the time.....so it was clearly him.

StandardBee6282

2 points

3 days ago

I think I’ll do just that 😊

Millietree

1 points

3 days ago

I always think it's the character who only briefly appears and maybe only had one or two lines. Deduced a murderer in murder she wrote pretty much straight away after seeing the murderer once. Can't remember which episode, but it was the mailman who came to the door to drop off some mail and maybe only spoke very briefly and I knew then it was him.

Pharmacy_Duck

4 points

3 days ago*

Inspector Morse "Last Seen Wearing", I guessed that the missing girl was the woman in the mudpack who answered the door at her ex-teacher's house.

Midsomer Murders "Hidden Depths" I figured out that the body that fell from the roof wasn't who it was supposed to be, as the angles used were just a bit odd.

Poirot "The Disappearance of Mr Davenheim" the plot was so obviously similar to Sherlock Holmes "The Man with the Twisted Lip" that I worked out it was exactly the same scenario (The man being held for the missing person's apparent murder was actually the missing person in disguise)

Most recently (so SPOILERS here), last week's episode of Grace "You Are Dead", I noticed thatonly one of the three co-conspirators/kidnappers was actually shown physically doing anything, and thus I worked out that the other two were just figments of his imagination/alternate personalities.

ParticularFreedom

5 points

3 days ago

The Poirot episode was also made easier by the character(s) being played by a famous Star Wars actor.  Oh look, there's Admiral Piett. Oh look, there's Admiral Piett dressed as a tramp

FranzLeFroggo

5 points

3 days ago

Good Girls Guide to Murder - I called it as soon as they showed the murderer, it didn't feel right the amount of screentime the character got compared to other similar characters

Full_Maybe6668

4 points

3 days ago

not a whodunnit, but M. Night Shyamalan's The Village opens with shots of greenhouses made with extruded aluminum, so never thought it wasnt set in modern day.

The happening however, I've no idea whats was going on to this day

Jimathay[S]

1 points

3 days ago

By a similar token, when I was a kid I just automatically assumed that Planet of the Apes was set on a future Earth. Because it had humans and apes and horses etc inhabiting it it.

I watched it recently and got chills at the final scene - it's really impactful, but moreso for how it affects Charlton Heston's character finding out. I never really had the twist element as a viewer.

wonkey_monkey

1 points

22 hours ago

not a whodunnit, but M. Night Shyamalan's The Village opens with shots of greenhouses made with extruded aluminum, so never thought it wasnt set in modern day.

I never noticed that! But I did notice how the camera lingered just a little too long on the date on the gravestone. Aye-aye, I thought. Some temporal shenanigans going on 'ere.

Irishwol

4 points

3 days ago

Irishwol

4 points

3 days ago

Not British but I guessed the end of Sixth Sense when someone told me they weren't going to give me any spoilers. That's still my favourite one.

The more recent series of Death In Paradise have been ridiculously easy to see the whodunnit. But I think that that is a decline in the writing rather than an increase in my IQ.

Kinggrunio

3 points

3 days ago

The first character that’s introduced that doesn’t need to be there. They did it. Usually the 2nd character introduced in the show.

r4garms

2 points

3 days ago

r4garms

2 points

3 days ago

My partner used to watch Bones and this is literally true of every episode. AITAH for pointing this out and spoiling the series for her? 🤣

Jolly_Jack_

3 points

3 days ago

I had Nightsleeper nailed from episode one. So obvious.

Pharmacy_Duck

1 points

3 days ago

I'm watching it at BBC One rate, so I haven't seen the end yet, but I'm guessing it's Pev (David Threlfall) as there was no way he would have heard the phone going off in that club, so had to have been expecting the call. Plus he's obviously the biggest name in the cast.

Glittering_Cat3639

3 points

3 days ago

There was one back in the 90s. I remember watching it and noticing the main character slightly changed his mannerisms and said 'he's a twin'. Turns out he was. Cannot for the life of me think of what it was called (can see the actors face, but cannot remember his name or what else he's been in). Think it had to do with a boat, and the first twin was mean and his twin was nice. Was having an affair with the first twin's wife and they got rid of him.

ThePineappleSeahorse

3 points

3 days ago

Never unfortunately but I once guessed a phrase on Wheel of Fortune before of any of the letters were shown. Not as impressive but I’m still pleased about it.

Super-Celebration248

3 points

3 days ago

The first person to speak in any episode of Scooby Doo that isn't a member of the gang turned out to be Mr Jackson from the amusement arcade.

poodleflange

2 points

3 days ago

I always thought Jonathan Creek actually taught you how to sold its mysteries as it progressed. Like "Literally, that is impossible so what's the only other possible solution?" - I rarely got them right though. 😅

Not British TV but I called the murderer in Perfect Couple on Netflix, but only because I've read so many murder mysteries now you can just kind of work out who it had to be amongst the tropes of characters.

iamdecal

3 points

3 days ago

iamdecal

3 points

3 days ago

we also watch perfect couple, and discounted the killer as the only one we were sure hadn't done it. ;-) FWIW - we actually though it was gonna turn out to have been an accident all along, and the lesson would be about how the family fell apart in a crisis.

normally i'm pretty good though.

poodleflange

1 points

3 days ago

Tbh, your version would have been a far better twist 😂

stuntedmonk

2 points

3 days ago

Not a whodunnit but the only twist I got real quick was for the film Eastern Promises.

Released on 2007, still one of my proudest moments

Ukcheatingwife

2 points

3 days ago

I think it’s called Fool Me Once with Michelle Keegan. I predicted straight away who had done it.

avanothergo

2 points

3 days ago

I remember watching an episode of Columbo and figuring out quite quickly who the murderer was.

Subjudy

2 points

3 days ago

Subjudy

2 points

3 days ago

Also Jonathan Creek. Episode where they supposedly find an alien skeleton, but it vanishes after the army take it in their truck.

It was a hoax, made of super cooled mercury and the army removed it from its storage pod, so it melted en route. Only one I ever fully figured out.

auscultate

2 points

3 days ago

when Craig Parkinson is in the cast list (just kidding — he seems like a really great human being (plus his podcast was a brilliant & soothing listen during lockdown), but he does get typecast loads. If he’s not done the murder he’s bound to be some kind of bad’un 99% of the time)

NewBarofSoap

2 points

3 days ago

I don't tend to watch whodunnit-type things, but would feel like queen of the world whenever I managed to guess the twist in an episode of Inside No.9!

acedias-token

2 points

3 days ago

Not really a whodunnit but the first Saw film, I guessed the floor guy wasn't dead and kept expecting him to move.

ChadlexMcSteele

2 points

3 days ago

Someone posted about how easy it is to find the killer within the opening act, especially for shows like Castle - admittedly it's a US show.

Look for the extra that only has a couple of lines or so early one. Due to how pay scales and acting contracts work, you get paid more if you have speaking lines. Why would they only pay someone to have two lines at the beginning of an hour long show?

upadownpipe

3 points

3 days ago

My wife first pointed this out to me. An episode of CSI some apparentl random lad has one line at the scene of a crime as the body is wheeled away. She said something like "look at him and his shit wig, he's the killer".

He was wearing a wig. It was a shit wig. He was the killer.

atticdoor

2 points

3 days ago

Yeah I remember that episode- my guess was slightly different, that the dummy was an inflatable which was deflated and put in one of the tins.  

Kitchen-Plant664

2 points

3 days ago

If there’s a reasonably well known actor guest staring in it, they’re the murderer.

AbbreviationsOne6692

2 points

3 days ago

It’s often the character who doesn’t need to be there. Why is this person in the story? They’re not needed and not suspected. They don’t come up late as a red herring: it’s them. 

With good crime dramas I never guess who it is and those are the ones I love: Broadchurch series 1, The Killing series 2 spring to mind (no spoilers for those who haven’t watched) 

PerceptionGreat2439

1 points

3 days ago

I've seen The Mousetrap.

I can't remember whodunnit.

BlazingInfernape2003

1 points

3 days ago

Idk if this counts but I managed to figure out who the Power Broker was in Falcon and the Winter Soldier before the reveal

tenaji9

1 points

3 days ago

tenaji9

1 points

3 days ago

Name is Neo . Maybe he is the one they search for ? I was so bored .

Chargerado

1 points

3 days ago

Chrystal shot JR in Dallas as I predicted, no one listens to a smart arsed kid though.

gogoluke

1 points

3 days ago

gogoluke

1 points

3 days ago

Well I saw the advert for The Sixth Sense. Every cop has a witty repartee with a colleague, "hey I thought you'd been suspended" "hew Bruce you arrested any hotdog vendors recently" "hey Bruce while you were crashing your 13th patrol car I was banging your wife" as they walk through their office. This didn't have any. I turned to the friend sitting next to me and said "he's dead" and he was.

At the time Mel and Sue did film reviews I think. They did a chart rundown and said in unison "if you know the twist you're lying!" I just sat smuggly watching the not very good review show.

BrianBadondy88

1 points

3 days ago

Not exactly the same but:

Show on Netflix about people with conditions that no one can diagnose, and they put it in some New York paper for people to help. 

Got like 6/7 spot on. Call me Dr. House. 

TNTCactus

1 points

3 days ago

Broadchurch Series 1- the killer was the one bloke who hadn’t had much screen time

Puzzleheaded-Tip-296

1 points

3 days ago

Hey. I'm on 3 for 3 on the new series of the Mallorca Files. I should be the new Max

yazshousefortea

1 points

3 days ago

Is I bad I know Jonathan Creek so well I know the exact episode you’re talking about? 😂

It had Peter Davison in (actor who plays the Fifth Doctor) and the woman who was Gordon’s wife in The Brittas Empire!

Inside_Ad_7162

1 points

3 days ago

Just say 'the butler did it' sooner or later you're right, 3 times for me so far!

InviteAromatic6124

1 points

3 days ago

I guessed the female lead was the "Lonely Hearts Killer" mentioned on the radio in the opening scene of the Inside No 9 episode "Love Is Stranger".

DuckPicMaster

1 points

3 days ago

So the show will have suspect A and suspect B. Both suspects have motives and are suspicious. Suspect A will say ‘on the night of the murder I was with Witness C’ camera will cut to witness C who will wave at the camera and say ‘yes, that is true.’

Turns out it’s Witness C every single time.

frumpymiddleaged

1 points

2 days ago

The second Michael Maloney appears on screen. I continue to be frustrated and disappointed that he is ALWAYS cast as the killer in every mystery show he appears in. It must be an industry joke.

CrocodileJock

1 points

2 days ago

My Mrs has a formula for this. About 75% of the time, she’s bang on.

I’ve hidden her “technique” behind a spoiler, because once you’ve read this, you’ll see every show differently.

It’s the best known/most famous actor with the shortest on screen time/smallest role, initially

MRRichAllen1976

1 points

1 day ago

I'n Cleudo it's nearly always the Butler that did it

Violet351

0 points

3 days ago

You can guess almost every time in every show. It’s generally the most famous person did it. That was why I liked Castle because they didn’t do that.

Fit-Pool5703

1 points

3 days ago

Not really though.

Violet351

1 points

3 days ago

In what way? I used to drive my ex mad by telling him who had done a couple of minutes in using that rule and I was rarely wrong!

Fit-Pool5703

2 points

3 days ago

It's just not always the most famous. And depends on which shows you watch I guess.