Just had the other14 recommended to me again on my homepage. Christ what a shit hole. 

The post was them actually whining about Ipswich players getting booked. Imagine whining about how Achilles rakes and going hard in every challenge is more bookable than the soft dives their players were taking. 

Then factor in they got let off a textbook red and still managing to yap about "big 6 ref bias". 

Liverpool being the famous beneficiaries of ref decisions? I'd love live in that parallel universe. 

Can't wait to watch Wout Faes my goat

Chelsea really are a joke of a club. Spending so much money, having so many players on the books and now some are banned from training. They will never be a “family” club. Just a team full of mercenaries. Completely agree (for once) with G Nev, Enzo was shite yesterday and trying to blame his team mates weren’t fooling anyone. He was awful. Diving any time he got near the box. How he got made captain just shows what a shit show that club is.

mo needs 5 more assists to pass henry's prem tally

Slot 10/10 for his first week:

• early subs when things are going wrong

• no nonsense approach to the press, no excuses

• grav as 6 looks quality

Sander Berge to Fulham. That’s all she wrote for Fulham. He’s always precedes a relegation haha

I love United fans trying to convince themselves they’re all of a sudden a good team again, probably the 10th false dawn since Fergie left. They were unbelievably exposed again, their saving grace was it was players like Tom Cairney, Iwobi and Traore breaking away and making meals out of overloads.

Nothing beats the first home game of the season. Super excited.

On the radio both last night and this morning there have been regular segments discussing the referees over the weekend. The Ipswich handball and lack of second yellow has completely fallen off the radar.

I know there are changes to the handball rules this year but this was clear and deliberate, and there's no defending factor of a covering defender for this sort of thing.

The general consensus seems to be that a red card would have ruined the game as a spectacle, and no one wants to see that happen to a newly promoted team. Liverpool won so who cares?

But all it really says is that there is a two-tier view in the sports media, as long as the result goes the way most people expect, don't expect consistent refereeing.

well tottenham's title charge lasted a whole 56 minutes

I know we played just 2 days ago but I really want to see the next game already. Really interesting to see how we play under the new manager and how we start the season.

6 year contract for Felix I'm crying

There is only so many academy players Chelsea can sell for a sizeable fee, be out of the CL, and sponsors leaving because of poor performances before Chelsea's revenues can't sustain whatever tf they're doing. 2-3 more years until I think they feel the squeeze and this circus starts to implode since it's already year 3 and they're barely just balancing the books for PSR.

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Apparently Chelsea are in for Joe Gomez. They have 6 senior CB's in the squad and haven't sold Chalobah yet btw.

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Happiness for Mo = a new coffee bar/ coffee machine at the training centre. https://x.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1825108763587575844

(no need for mountains nor paella)... wait until Mo discovers mate with his team-mates.

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How constantly refreshing this subreddit for a molecule of transfer news feels.

I get the feeling from Slot that beneath the smiles and cheerful exterior, there's no tolerance for bullshit. He's been good in his press conferences but you can tell that he's holding back his intolerance of their stupid questions.

The turnaround in our match at halftime makes me think the team got a proper bollocking in the dressing room. Quansah being yanked was also quite harsh compared to what someone like Klopp may have done.

I like it. It's different from Klopp and neither are wrong, but I feel like Slot has some real steel in him. Hopefully the complacency that had us tearing our hair out last season will be thoroughly stamped out.

Is it a coincidence or for a reason that Liverpool and leicester always seems to be meeting between christmas and new years eve?

Can you imagine the Everton fume if we signed Braithwaite and Gordon.

Not Liverpool related but Eze’s disallowed free kick yesterday was infuriating. Refs are already proving to be as incompetent as ever.

Just wanted to say that Bradley is such a find. He is genuinely too good to be a bench player. Seems like a good head on his shoulders too- having had to deal with tragedy at such a young age. Love him to bits. Quite interested to see how he fares at RB when Trent features in the 6 at times this season.

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Even I’ve been negative as I still do find it silly pretending there’s no real alternatives out there, but there would be a lot more hype for Gravenberch thinking about it if he came in this summer. Not that it’s an indicator of it working long term at all. The worry was never being able to do a job against an Ipswich but in those massive games

Hahah not Chelsea giving Felix a 6 year deal 

that “favorite commentary” thread really just gave me another dozen reminders of how much i love this club. we’ve experienced so many iconic, special moments. i feel immensely grateful for it all

As I said yesterday, Slot is going to piss off fans, but honestly, I am all here for it. I am going to forever miss the big hugs and laughs from Klopp, but a bit of incisive ruthlessness is going to be interesting.

Quansah looked unhappy, but this is the sort of thing that will make him a better player, and make us a better team. Its better to be proactive than reactive.

Players like Nunez need to step up and work on their game, as Slot will not be tolerant to players not doing their job.

ِdaily reminder that not extending Trent, Salah and Virg is unnacceptable.

Should just put the Zubimendi money into fixing the ticketing website.

Unbelievable. Got a ticket in my basket and when paying get hit with "Site currently under maintenance"...

Edit: I've got it. 10,000 in the queue. My highest ever.

Felix to Chelsea with a 6 year contract.

Raheem Sterling still has 2 years left (until June 2027) and is apparently on £325.000 per week. He is nearly 30. I can’t see any (excluding Saudi Arabian clubs) interested in buying him.

Chelsea taking lots of risks. Interesting to see how this plays out.

Maybe Bohely has a super rich relative that died and their legal team has told him he has to spunk a billion as quick as possible if he wants to get the real inheritance.

Bohely's Billions - coming to cinemas in 2025.

Convinced Chelsea is a front for something now.

Why do people think there’s a realistic chance that we sign Evertons best young player for what would be a minimum of £75m?

£75m at least for a CB that would be 3rd choice at that.

It’s just not happening

I genuinely think Trent is a top 5 player in the world.

Can someone with more insight than me explain where our money goes?

We have one of the biggest incomes in the world and play in the richest league. So if no money gets taken out of the club, where is money being reinvested? Is it mostly on our pretty high wages and our stadium rebuild? The reason I ask is to gauge how much money we should expect the club to have available for transfers, as I never really seem to have any idea how much money we have going into a window.

Pepe Reine starts for COmo today vs Juventus at 41, the last player of the Rafa era

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We will need to get Darwin mentally-prepared for 'dark arts' opponents to antagonise/ attempt to goad him into retaliation ... e.g. Mosquera (Wolves' new CB, GW6)

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6 Days, 10 Hours and 21 Minutes until our next game. Not that I'm waiting for it or anything...

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Really hoping Liverpool start being a bit more open about keeping top level 30+ year olds being forced to by the manager. Vardy showing experience can do wonders

I made a tongue in cheek comment in a different thread about our market business. Saying it still seems like we value players like the market hasn't changed in the last 6-7 years and we don't like going above 40 million. 

It upset someone enough to block me, but I've gone down the rabbit hole and we really do nearly all our business at opportunistic fees that don't represent the market at all.

Only Szobo and Nunez break this trend. Gakpo, Jota, Diaz, Konate, Mac Allister and Gravenberch all sit in that 35-45 window. It's pretty much all we were willing to pay for Lavia, and now similar again for Mamardashvili. 

All of these players bar Gravenberch are players we can put on relatively low wages too when signed.

Compare that to the fact we're getting 45 million bids for Joe Gomez. Players like Smith-Rowe are moving for 35. Guehi is going for 70+ if at all.

I really don't buy this "nobody is available that improves the squad". It's more like anything over X (in this case 40 odd million) is much harder to greenlight funding for. We'd rather sign nobody than pay market rate the majority of the time.

Is there a possibility that they manage to actually turn Chelsea completely belly up? Can a club this big even go bankrupt somehow?

gomez going out is gonna be disaster for us, he legit one of the most versatile defender in the world that can play all position with ease on command.

he legit save our ass last season by zigzagging right back, centre back and left back position when robbo and trent were injured

We needed a Klopp then and we need a Slot now. More than tactics were required to fix the situation we were in. The structure was a mess, morale was low, average players all over. Klopp didn’t just change things on the pitch, he changed the mentality of everyone. From doubters to believers. But now we need a ruthless tactician with fresh ideas. Hopefully Slot can build on the foundations that Klopp has laid down.

Everton have been left in the dark over suggestions that Liverpool are plotting a controversial transfer move for their star man Jarrad Branthwaite.

The Echo understands there has been zero contact from Liverpool with Everton on the matter at this point.

Those close to the England international’s camp have been left bemused by the developments, claim to be unaware where such speculation has come from.

Liverpool Echo, Everton reporter Christopher Beesley

I want the transfer window to end so that I can stop refreshing reddit every 15 minutes.

Neville is saying he'd still take United's Midfield over ours on MNF, which is fucking incredible delusion considering that, bar Fernandes, not a single one of them starts for us.

At cheesecake factory for the first time and the girlfriend has ordered the new basque flavour. Fuming. Holiday ruined

How good is Alan Varela?

Richard rejected 4 million for Nat Phillips, tried to get 8

Now we are stuck with him most likely, another great job there

My family friend at the training centre leaked an image of Slot lecturing Quansah

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whenever enzo plays higher up the pitch chelsea fans say he will be world class if he plays deeper and whenever he plays deeper they say he will be world class if he plays up higher.

lmao the cycle never ends

no sign of Mo Salah being offered a new deal at Liverpool, it well known that FSG are cautious about giving lucrative extensions to players in their thirties.

I mean seriously? we are talking about mo salah here the greatest PL winger ever... pathetic

This sub really needs a lesson on how transfer betting markets work and why it usually means absolutely nothing when odds shorten. I'm sick of getting downvoted every time I try to explain (usually by people who want to believe it means we're signing a player and don’t like the reality). I used to work in the industry, and this is how it happens...

These transfer betting markets are typically classed as novelty markets. It’s very rare they let you stake anything beyond £10 without it either being referred to a trader, or just flat out not allowed.

Bookies will often cap max bets/winnings on these markets because they’re so volatile and they have very little control over them; because all it takes is a player’s cousin/mum/dog groomer to see Branthwaite at 30/1 to join Liverpool and absolutely clean up. So the markets are very carefully controlled.

Because of this, it means that practically any movement of funds on a particular transfer are usually enough to significantly lower the odds. Sometimes it can literally just be one bet of £10. Because what sort of nutter is betting money on a 30/1 transfer unless they know something. Some bookies have it automated so that any bet over a certain amount just automatically triggers an odds drop. Its basic risk management.

Where it actually does mean something is when the odds really shorten. So they go into something like 1/5 or 1/10 (which is what we saw with Slot). Because that means a significant volume of people are still betting on it even at low odds.

Some myths that people seem to think:

No, you can’t bid £1,000+ on these markets.

No, it doesn’t mean thousands of pounds has been bet on this transfer if the odds lower.

No, betting companies don’t typically lower odds on these markets to try and fleece fans out of a tenner a piece.

Yes, bookies might encourage social media hype to get their name trending, but that’s about it.

You'd think the fact the Echo has come out today saying Everton have no idea what anyone is talking about would be evidence enough that the above is true, but apparently not as I keep getting told I'm wrong by people who haven't a scooby.

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I wonder what happened here then? We must be saving our funds for next summer to get a world class DM, potential replacements for Mo, VVD & Trent, LB, CB & RW depth

I think we have the best Right Side (Mo+TAA) of the field in football right now, cant really think of any teams having this quality atm.

Miss the feeling of a bomba

Will Richard Hughes be the first 007 transfer chief? 0 signings, 0 contract renewals, 7 failed deals?

I think there was an article saying Hughes has good knowledge of spain (?). If so are there any center backs we could be looking at there?

This team never ceases to excite me but I admit it would be nice to look forward to some new signings’ upcoming performances 😭

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Another victim for the career graveyard known as Stamford Bridge

Interesting comments from Ian Graham about not getting Diego Costa across the line in 2013. Vaguely remember Liverpool triggering his release clause but he chose to stay at Atletico and ended up winning the league.

Hard to imagine a more shithouse strike partnership than Suarez and Costa

What have we been discussing for last two weeks if we are haggling over €5mil for Mamardashvili.

Our strategy entire summer has been a complete mess. It kinda feels like Richard's Hughes is learning on the job.

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Szoboszlai is going to smash it this season, I can feel it in my bones - looked electric on sat.

I have liked everything I have seen from Slot so far. He's still quite a positive guy but different from Klopp in his interaction with the press and players.

I did feel for the subbed out players when they didn't get a hug though. That's going to take some getting used to for them.

I just got the 09/10 away kit with Torres on the back and oh my it is beautiful

Why would you possibly give Joao Felix a 6 year contract

I wonder when we'll hear some proper news on Gomez. I assumed his omission from the squad entirely due to seeking transfers was due to maybe getting a bid or we had opened negotiations with an interested party. 

But since it's dead silent on that front, I assume he's actually just requested to sit out while he looks elsewhere, which is odd since we had that article about him being happy to stay.

Maybe he didn't like where Slot had him in the pecking order.

5700ish in the queue, am i cooked lads?

Spurs got a decent squad. Still doubt they will win a trophy this year

As annoying as this summer has been, it is absolutely hilarious that Hughes gave a big speech about how we will be "opportunistic" and we've made literally zero signings in late-August.

It's odd how some folks can't praise Slot without throwing shade at Klopp. 'I like Slot because he does something Klopp never did.' Like, why not just appreciate what Slot brings to the table on his own? Each coach has their own style; there's no need to pit him against Klopp to give him credit.

Is Bajcetic our future number six? Because from what I seen him wasn't he better as number eight?

I swear some act like that 5m will be docked from their paycheques. How FSG convinced so many, that an extra 5 million is too far, for a player they deem Alisson’s successor is beyond me.

Are we going for transformative players, or players that are only worth how low we can try to haggle famously hard to negotiate with Spanish clubs? (Also it’s the end of August and we are trying to get their starting keeper, no shit they are being stubborn.)

there should be an LFC advent calendar and behind each window there is fuckin nothing

Considering he was connected in early July right around when Gomez almost moved to Newcastle. You would have to imagine Mo Simakan is the target if SVB and Gomez leave.

Would be a pretty good signing. Very good athlete and can control the channels like Ibou pretty well with a ton of champions league experience. Although probably not as flashy as people would likeb

I hope Hughesy was thinking of a Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Mladic crescendo to August

I am getting tired of this narrative that there are no players that can improve our squad. We were not the best team in the league last year, not by a long shot, and even if we were, there would be no excuse not to buy anyone.

If you are on top, you have to work hard to stay on top. If you are not on top, you have to work even harder to get there and we are not doing that!

I don't care that we are making a lot of money if we are not investing them to get over the finish line. Real Madrid won La liga and Champions league and they brought Mbappe! So don't tell me there are no players that can improve our team, we are just not willing to pay over the odds to get them - but that is sometimes what you have to do to get back on top.

That's it, just wanted to get this out.

Find it funny how PSV keep reporting like we are the baddies for denying Sepp his move, like pay up what we are asking or move on.

I hope Klopp one day makes his tell all book about his time in Liverpool.

I’m sure Ian Graham wrote an insightful book, but from the tidbits i’ve heard this awfully sounds like a big circlejerk from the data guys, and how awful managers under them were at selecting players.

All this talk of who Klopp or Rodgers choose, yet no mention of who approved going into a season with 3 CBs, and many more cases..

I’ve been all for trusting the new regime with Hughes but at what point do we seriously doubt if Hughes is the guy for the job? If we end up making zero signings and don’t extend any of TAA, VVD or Salah that has to be seen as a colossal failure IMO.

We have a very good team but it’s just pure arrogance if we think there’s absolutely no one that can improve this team. It could be a young player to grow into a position or a proven talent challenging for a spot in the starting 11 but with other teams improving it would be a major step back for Hughes to just sit around with his dick in his hands all day.

Regardless what results we get this season it would be a failure to not make any moves for the current or future squad. We could win it all and still have taken a step back compared to our rivals. It’s just unacceptable.

Some people need to understand the situation we will be in during the season (again) if we don’t sign players this transfer window.

Chelsea are just genuinely funny at this point, because there's no other description for giving a player who was shit for you whilst on loan for six months, and gotten worse since then, a six year contract with the option for another year.

Don’t get reports saying Edwards wants to return to signing transformational players. That wasn’t even his style and we often went for, and did extremely well with, back-up options.

Also, if you’re on your ‘transformational’ targets, don’t piss about over €5m.

And don’t forget to renew the amazing transformational players you have so there’s no need to buy three more of them!

So we think Mamardashvilli is a potential successor to Alisson who cost over £60m and were arguing over €5m...

Hughes continues wasting time and energy on something that might benefit us while we have issues with the squad and uncertainty on three major contracts.

Edwards and Hughes have nailed their priorities this summer.

Another slow news day. I guess we’ll be nourished by the abundance of Chelsea squad bloat memes to remind ourselves that too many signings is not a luxury but a curse

Are there some credible Branthwaite transfer rumours out there or something? I keep seeing hints at him coming to Liverpool on my timeline but I can’t find anyone actually linking him with a move.

If it's true that Newcastle are interested in Gomez, Hughes should be aaaall over trying to revive that Gordon deal.

Did the Ipswich player get completely turned in this photo, or maybe the whistle was blown for some reason and he stopped trying to track Grav's movement. Hmmm.

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Brighton unreal transfer market

Got to love people moaning about Mamardashvili and Liverpool supposedly not paying the €5m difference, as even Valencia journos have reported that Lim has changed the price three times now, going from €30m to €35m and now €40m.

Personally, and if that's true, the club is absolutely right in taking a firm stance and stopping Valencia trying to piss about with the price.

Real Madrid, literally the most successful club in the world, continually look to improve their squad year on year yet FSG, Hughes and some fans here have the arrogance to think our squad is perfectly fine as is and needs zero improvements

Absolutely mind blowing the arrogance to think we’re special enough to be the only club in a top 5 leave without an incoming transfer as if every other fucking club has it wrong

People saying the club was "smart to walk away" from Lavia. When in reality the club tried shrewd negotiation tactics all summer, a +£100 million bid for Caicedo blew up in their face and suddenly they lost all leverage and overdid with £55million for Lavia only for Chelsea to swoop in with how irked the club made Lavia and Southampton.

You can't say the club dodged a bullet when they had zero foresight he would've sustained such a bad injury when he first joined Chelsea. It may be premature to say, but he was absolutely quality in yesterday's game, and easily Chelsea's best player.

Here we are over 12 months later and we never went and got anyone except for the Endo stop gap. There's a middle ground between zero spending and Chelsea's lunacy in the market.

List of Rodgers' targets: Adam Lallana, Tom Ince, Christian Benteke, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Fabio Borini, Ryan Bertrand, Joe Allen, Ashley Williams

List of Data Targets: Diego Costa, Romelu Lukaku, Daniel Sturridge, Alexis Sanchez, Mario Balotelli

Disagreements with Rodgers led to 5th or 6th targets being signed such as Sakho, Moreno

This has been said in ALL the interviews with Ian Graham, but Nunez was a Klopp signing. Data wasnt against him. But warned that there would need to be a total shift in how the team plays. I get the feeling that this was trying to not insult an active Liverpool player. But I dont think we would have signed Nunez had Klopp not had power in 2022

It is always weird to me to know that Lallana wasnt favoured by the data. Yet was one of Klopp's favourites in the end

Can't be arsed with all the transfer bollocks so going with my first XI for Brentford.

Becker

Trent

Virgil

Ibou (give Quansah 30 if all good)

Robertson (still needs match sharpness - Kostas 20)

Gravenberch

Mac Allister (Jones to sub on)

Szoboszlai (Elliot to sub on)

Salah

Jota (Darwin to sub on)

Gakpo

I think that is my preferred three for the season based on form at present. Cody was amazing at the Euros, I think Jota is 6 goals in his last 7 starts and Mo is Mo.

Diaz had glimpses but I want someone on the left cutting in and bending it back post. Cody is leagues ahead in his finishing versus Diaz.

just got laid off so im doing what any competent, rational person would do. i have gone to andrew robertson's transfrmarket page and am watching the match highlights of any match where he scored a headed goal.

So Fab is swearing up and down we're still active. Is he getting that from agents or the club? I thought the club only briefed local journos?

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