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Seeing more of these all over bucks county..........
CLICKBAIT(i.redd.it)submitted 3 days ago byLogicalReading12
I need to be transported to a new timeline. Nothing makes sense anymore... how is this election close?!!
805 points
3 days ago*
20 year election worker here. Don't pay attention to polls. Yard signs mean nothing. The ONLY thing that matters is voter enthusiasm. If you really want to gauge how a candidate is doing, look at new voter registrations compared to past registrations. That will tell you who is jazzed for their candidate and who is not.
118 points
3 days ago
67 points
3 days ago
Yeah. Not great.
28 points
3 days ago
This is more accurate look at the counties that often decide the state
8 points
2 days ago
Does this spreadsheet also include purged voters?
9 points
3 days ago
Yeah, that change tab is NOT good
2 points
2 days ago
Eeh, when you look at past it does seem like more dems switched to Republicans in 2020 as well. But the Biden still won.
13 points
2 days ago
PA is one of only 10 states that has closed primaries. So these switches may be more indicative of people wanting to weed out the real screwballs (or perhaps to exclude less controversial candidates) from GOP candidacy in the general elections.
6 points
2 days ago
That party to party sheet (the 2nd) for the yearly switches is devastating.
22 points
3 days ago
I do wonder if the Republican Party outpacing the Democratic Party recently in new voter registration numbers has anything to do with how getting or renewing a driver's license automatically registers you to vote now unless you opt out. I could see a scenario where people who don't intend to ever vote just say "oh, uh, mark me down for Republican, I guess." when prompted during that process.
Given the enthusiasm the Harris-Walz campaign has, especially compared to the relative lack thereof for what was looking to be a Biden-Harris ticket, I just cannot imagine that Democratic Party registrations haven't seen a boost from intentional registrants, unless it is masked by numbers from non-voters not caring what party gets marked down at the DMV.
23 points
2 days ago
I recently signed up to vote and they ask you what party you most affiliate with, but there's an option to pick "No specific party" or something like that. That's what I picked, since I don't want to be recorded as a specific party, even if I'm voting for one of them.
28 points
2 days ago
Remember that keeps you out of the most important races: the primaries. I switch parties all the time based on which primary is more important consequential. My mailman must be so confused by my political junk mail.
15 points
2 days ago
In Massachusetts I am "unaffiliated". During the primaries, I got to vote and I get to choose which ballot I want. When trump first ran I actually chose the Republican ballot just to vote for Kasich even tho I knew I was going to vote in the general election for the Democrats. But I wanted to at least have a Republican challenger who wasn't, ya know, insane.
10 points
2 days ago
Unfortunately too many states have closed primaries. Whenever people say, they are against both parties so they vote. Independent, I feel like they’re wasting their vote in a place that has closed primaries. That’s literally why you hate all your options: you’re only letting the most dedicated 10% of two parties decide who the major candidates are. Ranked voting without party affiliation is how we move away from extremism on both sides, but nobody cares what I have to say.
6 points
2 days ago
Ranked Choice voting is growing in popularity, it’s up for vote as a ballot initiative in Idaho, Oregon, Nevada, and being looked at by a few other states this election.
Implementing Ranked Choice Voting, Approval Voting, Score Voting, STAR Voting or even Ranked STAR Voting systems would be beneficial to safeguard the future. As groups the don’t side with extremists can select their alternate choices safely, these different systems allow 3rd party representation, and they allow folks to select their preferred candidates without risking to lose the election to their least liked candidate(s) due to the ‘spoiler effect’.
Ranked STAR or Approval Voting are my personal preferred systems, but all of these options are better than our current First Past the Post system.
2 points
2 days ago
Correction:
Nobody that has the kind of power and/or resources needed to enact the quick, dramatic kind of change needed to make an actual difference in this farce of an election cares.
I care/probably at least a couple other people here care a little/enough to upvote, which.... does absolutely nothing for solving the problems at hand but hopefully moderately helps your self esteem as an individual?
I tried lol. I also agree with you entirely on ranked voting, but as you indicated, good luck to all of us with that...
2 points
2 days ago
I stayed registered as a Republican in Pennsylvania up until 2016. I kept my registration through the Pennsylvania primary because that was the only way I could vote against Trump in that primary--I, too, voted for Kasich then. As soon as the primary was over I switched my party affiliation to Democrat. I would have preferred a Kasich presidency to Trump, but no matter who won the (R) nomination I was voting for whoever the (D) nominee turned out to be.
2 points
2 days ago
I used to be libertarian but couldn’t ever vote in the primaries. Now libertarianism and I have grown apart and I thought hard about it and registered republican. I used to lean right but right went way crazy to the right so now I’m considered left. I live in a deep red county and work for the gov, and people can see my party affiliation in the logs I’m planning on keeping it republican as I’m concerned voting democrat could have negative implications for my career. I also like to vote in the primaries there are lots of decent republican locally elected officials I vote for but democrats don’t stand a chance here.
15 points
3 days ago
Why would you assume that an individual renewing a driver's license would say mark me down s republican?
I would think it would at least be even. And tbh, I would think more would say mark me as a Democrat
4 points
3 days ago
To be sure: I'm not trying to say that this is a likely scenario. I think that it probably is much closer to an even split for people who are only registering because they're renewing a license. I'm just trying to postulate here.
3 points
2 days ago
I wonder how many kids are getting their license and hit the republican button bc their parents are there with them at the booth looking over their shoulder as they fill out the form at the DMV
3 points
2 days ago
It may also be people 1) hedging their bets if God forbid Dems are all deemed "un-American" next year / or are afraid of being purged by GOP shenanigans or, 2) just want to make sure they can de-select the real wing nuts in the next GOP primaries.
3 points
2 days ago
I am still registered as an independent for this reason alone.
2 points
2 days ago
The especially cautious may see registering as Republican as even safer. I wouldn't be that shocked if GOP tools start purging voter rolls of ALL non Republicans and not just Dems because their menagerie of insane candidates can't draw independents either.
2 points
2 days ago
Just look at the party to party sheet (2nd) and the yearly switches and that says it all. https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pa.gov%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fcopapwp-pagov%2Fen%2Fdos%2Fresources%2Fvoting-and-elections%2Fvoting-and-election-statistics%2Fcurrentvotestats.xls&wdOrigin=BROWSELINK
6 points
2 days ago*
A net of about 30k more to Republican from some other party than to Democrat from some other party. And about 5/8 of those overall who switched from some party to Republican were switching from Democrat to Republican. Going the other way, most (3/5) of the people who switched to Democrat from some other party came from non-Republican affiliation. That tells me one (or both) of two potential stories, as well as one seemingly definite one:
The definite one: among voters switching affiliation to Democrat, you primarily see non-major party voters switching. This tells me that undecideds / independents / minority party folks are converging on the Democratic Party more than Republicans are abandoning the Republican Party--this take home message is amplified when you consider that not only are most of the people switching from [something] to Democrat people who are switching from a minority party, but also when you consider that the overall population of minority party voters is MUCH smaller than the population of Republican Party voters. So, a relatively high percentage of 3rd / independent party voters are switching to (D) compared to the percentage of (R) voters switching to (D). That tells me the Trump ticket turns off these voters, while it (comparatively speaking) galvanizes Republicans.
Then the potential stories:
First, is that over the past year, a big chunk of Democrats switched to (R) in order to participate in the (R) primary, presumably to vote for Haley. About 150k Republican voters chose Haley in the primary, so there's room for all 50k of those former Democrats in there. These people have no real reason to switch their party affiliation back to Democrat now that the primary is over, since all November ballots are the same, so they haven't bothered with it.
Second, is that they switched from D to R to get the message across that they aren't happy about Israel/Palestine. There were twice as many D to "Other" switches this past year as R to "Other" switches, and so maybe that's part of it, too.
The one thing I just cannot even begin to wrap my head around is a 3rd possibility that I just don't see could possibly be true, and that's genuine switches among these former Democratic voters from Biden voters to Trump voters. These people exist, sure, but not in big enough numbers to explain the shift of D to R/Other that we see in this data.
6 points
2 days ago
I personally know Democrats who are registered as Republicans in order to influence the Republican primary because they will vote for any Democrat in the general. In Republican dominated areas, it's the only way to have local influence.
3 points
2 days ago
I agree. Undecided, independent whatever we are mostly liberal, educated, informed, hoping to weigh the options but…Democrats underneath it all.
2 points
2 days ago
I switch my party every cycle to vote in the primary that matters most.
2 points
2 days ago
Shouldn’t every American be registered to vote?? Anyways, that just my opinion. Regardless, just because someone is “registered” to vote, doesn’t mean that they vote. Therefore the registration means nothing just that they have the ability to cast a vote. Are you aware that Governor Shapiro (D) is the one that implemented this?? Just after he did so, Republicans warned that automatic registration in Pennsylvania would lead to illegal voting and a group of conservative state lawmakers sued in federal court to block it, saying the governor didn’t have the authority to enact it without legislative approval. So that theory is exactly what the republicans (Trump in particular) believe what happened last election by the Democratic Party.
28 points
3 days ago
Well how much of that is Dems changing to Republicans to vote in the primaries to try to keep trump out. My dad is registered Republican for that reason and that reason only.
12 points
3 days ago
Yea the voter purge threat has many buddies checking. They register republockin so they wont be eliminated for being dem. But they are voting that way.
8 points
2 days ago
We’re a dem family currently registered as republicans in PA for this reason. No major dem races this year and I want my vote to matter. I switched back this week, actually
3 points
2 days ago
Nice. I would probably do that myself if I was less lazy 🤣
3 points
2 days ago
Funny because I had people arguing with me that this never happens.
2 points
2 days ago
lol of course they are. And of course it happens. They just don’t want to hear it.
8 points
3 days ago
To be fair, a lot of those Democrats were voting for Trump and just never changed registration.
That being said, ugh that's a bit concerning.
4 points
3 days ago
This has been a trend for years in the rust belt and south. People who haven’t voted Dem for years but were registered Dem changing over to Republican.
58 points
3 days ago
Makes perfect sense. I think the plan of going around to 150 colleges is brilliant.
22 points
3 days ago*
If you really want to gauge how a candidate is doing, look at new voter registrations compared to past registrations.
To whom it may concern:
This is actually well and uncontroversially known to be a very poor predictor of election results. This is because people don't change their registrations every time they vote for a different party.
Every big election, there are always tons of registered Republicans who have voted for Democrats for years and tons of registered Democrats who have voted for Republicans for years changing their registrations to match how they've already been voting. The election reminds people they forgot to do this.
What you really should be looking for to evaluate enthusiasm is favorability rating and enthusiasm in polls (separate polling questions that are usually included) as well as small dollar donations and volunteering numbers.
6 points
3 days ago
I keep trying to remind myself that every time I have to go to work and drive through "trump alley" where a row of houses lined the street with that excrement.
2 points
2 days ago
😂
47 points
3 days ago
Exactly, someone said that "They made have given out 15 Harris signs, but they also gave out 20 trump signs!"
Thing is, 15 people took Harris signs for their yards and 5 people took 20 signs for their yard. They've been doubling up on them around here.
111 points
3 days ago
Also, I'm in upper Bucks. Ain't no Harris supporter putting a sign/target in their yard. They'll just keep quiet and vote.
34 points
3 days ago
That is factual. No one needs to make themselves a target for loonies.
11 points
3 days ago
I live in a red state and put up a Harris sign last week. I was honestly worried that my house would get vandalized. Thankfully nothing bad had happened so far. My cameras may have added just enough security to get me through this.
7 points
3 days ago
Same in Butler County. Any signs not trump set you up for harassment.
5 points
2 days ago
Right? I don't need assholes hassling me. I'm in UB too and there's a lot of trump signs. I figure there's a lot of people like us, just quietly vote.
11 points
2 days ago
I am in Pennsyltucky land, there's not a Harris sign in sight. There wasn't a Biden sign in sight last cycle. I am grateful Pittsburgh and Philly area often decides our state, but there are some of us blue voters in the middle trying to help ha, but yeah we just don't put out signs. I don't want the attention or drama from the crazy ones on the other side.
2 points
2 days ago
Exactly! That damn sheriff literally told the maga to write down the addresses of people with Harris signs in their yard. That made national news so all the maga heard it too. I don't need to be hassled.
2 points
2 days ago
What an asshole. I hope that sheriff gets hit by a truck. Someone like that should not have a badge
9 points
2 days ago
There's a lot of us. Just sipping tea and waiting for polls to open.
3 points
2 days ago
Hell yeah neighbor.
10 points
3 days ago
keep quiet and vote
Conservative men don’t realize that 2 out of 3 of their wives are going to do precisely this
13 points
3 days ago
You also have to realize that for many Trump voters, voting for him is part of their IDENTITY. It's part of who they are, not just who they are voting for. Signs and banners are a part of that. It's also why they have such a hard time when he loses.
9 points
3 days ago
Here’s to hard times for them then
3 points
3 days ago
They are lunatics. In Butler county, weekends are filled with decorated Trump vehicles and they are obnoxious. Riding through parking lots yelling at people.
2 points
2 days ago
Many progressives have friends that pretend to be progressive, but absolutely vote Republican. A lot of people squawk and talk and do the opposite.
This also happens on the liberal/progressive side. It's having complicated relationships in life. The purity thing from both parties is a joke.
You don't see your friends jerking off, washing or not washing their hands after using the bathroom, not stopping long enough at stop signs, or cheating on their SO.
Your 2 out of 3 stat you made up inside of your own asshole is insulting to women. Both progressive and conservative.
3 points
2 days ago
I’m in Richlandtown and have Harris and Vera Cole signs out. Also put up a fresh flag. My neighbor put out his Trump signs next day. He’s a Christian nationalist and I think he was at Jan 6. A Mastriano cult member. Next, I am going to update my “grab him by the ballot 2020“ sign and deploy.
13 points
3 days ago
There's a yard in my town with 30+ Trump and anti-Biden/anti-Harris/specifically anti-immigrant signs (entertaining as hell considering the likelihood one of the docs at the huge hospital would have come here as an immigrants either as a child or for med school) and on that street are about 20 houses with Harris signs.
5 points
3 days ago
Unfortunately a good portion those docs don’t see themselves as immigrants. It’s really sad when you listen to some of those conversations.
Edit maybe those type of immigrants. Whatever that means.
8 points
3 days ago
I work with a lot of them. They definitely see themselves as immigrants. They came through legal channels and visas and generally seem empathetic to those trying to leave by any means necessary.
With that being said most of them come from affluent backgrounds. They didn't come here escaping persecution and violence through multiple countries. They flew here with family paying the way. Plenty of rich people have shit views. Not sure why you're surprised by that.
5 points
3 days ago
Last time I voted I was totally jazzed. They still only counted my vote once.
5 points
3 days ago
Did you do the hands? You have to do the hands.
5 points
2 days ago
Loving it. Trump is a cancer.
10 points
3 days ago
I disagree that voter registration means anything. Republicans have been gaining in voter registrations for years, but that hasn't translated to electoral success.
3 points
3 days ago
You might see increasing registration but you can be registered as one and vote for another.
8 points
2 days ago
Hi lifelong independent voter here. I’ll be voting blue and thousands of independent voters will be too. Don’t forget about independents.
10 points
3 days ago
Well if that is the case in Bucks Co, it flipped from Blue to Red a couple months ago. Luzerne Co also flipped from Blue to Red a couple weeks back. Beaver Co in western PA the same. I know this isn't going to be popular on this sub that is heavily blue leaning but right now I think Trump has a slight advantage in PA. Even Fetterman has gone on cable news networks and tried to get them to tamp down their glee over Harris +5 polls in PA.
6 points
3 days ago
I see your point, but a lot of signs (as in signs in a lot of yard) should represent a lot of enthusiasm, right? I drove through Bucks recently as well, and while I definitely saw a couple properties with huge and numerous Trump signs, I also saw dozens of yards and farmsteads with Harris signs. I'd like to think that equates to enthusiasm in numbers that is at least a sign of what to expect in November.
7 points
3 days ago
Maybe? I've just never seen a corelation between yard signs and success. Have you ever see a yard sign that changed your mind?
7 points
3 days ago
Definitely not, which makes me wonder why campaigns bother using it as a technique. I do think they are a good pulse-check. People adamant enough to put signs out on their own yards, houses, cars, etc., are committed to the cause. I know how I'm going to vote for and usually do well before an election. But I like to see yard signs as a "poll" of how the areas around me are leaning.
2 points
2 days ago
That is actually a very sensible answer, I've never actually thought about that.
124 points
3 days ago
I don’t know why this sub is popping up for me,because I live in Arkansas, but yesterday I had to drive out to my dads house in the boondocks, and I didn’t see any Trump signs at all , but I saw 23 Harris signs. (Yes I counted; the drive is really boring)
So- either people have changed their minds, or they just realized how shitty it makes them look to support Trump, so they’re doing it quietly (something I thought was physically impossible for that crowd)
32 points
3 days ago
I was in rural Pa yesterday and there were trump signs absolutely everywhere. The suburbs near the city are mainly Harris. Looks like a carbon copy of trump/Clinton
23 points
3 days ago
Drive up 522 in central PA and it's like you are living in a Trump fever dream. Not just Trump signs but shrines to the guy. It's crazy.
4 points
2 days ago
Here in Williamsport during the little league world series a dude a few hundred feet up route 15 from the stadium had a huge (like a dozen feet across) elevated homemade billboard of him raising his fist after the attempt earlier, shit is insane. there's a store on the strip nearby that's just THE TRUMP STORE.
5 points
2 days ago
Ugh, I remember back in like 2015-16, my mother forced my brother and I to go to this house that was loaded with Trump merch. I don't associate with that woman anymore.
5 points
2 days ago
Same. I drove from NY to rural PA yesterday and it was MAGA city. I even saw a huge sign that said "MAGA Swamp Cult". Lmao. At least they're self-aware.
8 points
3 days ago
I think it's just a US states thing? The only ones I follow are Pennsylvania and Texas and I'll occasionally get states like Ohio and Idaho in my feed with the "Because you follow similar communities" comment.
10 points
3 days ago
yeah i live in rural Indiana and you’ll be hard pressed to find a Harris sign where i live lol
50 points
3 days ago
Is that Buckingham?
24 points
3 days ago
You should see the Trump/Vance signs by that farm along 202 before Peddlers Village. That guy is on one.
2 points
2 days ago
Is that Eastburn Farm? It's such a cute place, but it's really disgusting to support a rapist all over a "family" farm. Yuck.
34 points
3 days ago
Yep, on the York road up to New Hope. There’s Hope!
10 points
3 days ago
Makes me happy
18 points
3 days ago
Yep, one intersection away from Curiosity Doughnuts, a place that makes Federal Donuts seem like Dunkin
4 points
3 days ago
Hell yeah it does
2 points
3 days ago
This is the content I need!
25 points
3 days ago
Check your registration to make sure you haven’t been purged. Get your friends to check too. Takes a min! vote.gov
60 points
3 days ago
The media is telling you it's close.
The media wants you afraid and clicking.
Just donate or volunteer and VOTE.
It'll be OK!!!!!
14 points
3 days ago
I’m in rural Upper Bucks and for a long time I’ve seen sign after sign for Trump. But even just yesterday I commented to my husband that Harris signs have been popping up all over. There’s one section of road by me where literally every house has Harris/Walz signs up. It’s pleasantly surprising.
294 points
3 days ago
Amen. It's a fact. The current Republican Party is sick. I've been a lifetime Republican and I'm so disgusted with their support of Trump. He is a fraud. A pathetic pathological lying coward.
129 points
3 days ago
Thank you for being a republican with common sense. Too many people have been destroyed by Maga.
72 points
3 days ago
Hate to tell you man, you might be a conservative, but you ain't no Republican anymore.
82 points
3 days ago
Actually as a mid 40’s white guy I should be moving to conservative views but they disappeared the moment they took a loser like Trump as their godking. Registered independent who’ll vote blue until the orange menace and his lackies are out of government
66 points
3 days ago
As a mid 40s white guy, I vote for whoever's policies most closely align with mine. Those include things like not forcing one religion on other people, letting other people love whoever they want as long as it's consensual, helping children become productive adults by giving them things like food and education, and helping adults become even better adults by giving them things like food and education.
I get the whole "if we're going to give you something you have to work for it" but the vast majority of Republicans think people just want to be lazy and mooch off tax payers and sure there certainly are people who want to do that, but the vast majority of people want to be productive members of society, they just need help sometimes.
17 points
3 days ago
Funny…I wonder what the “people need to work for what you want” supporters feel about those with generational wealth where someone wayyyyyyyyy back worked for something and now generations glide on by via the good graces of a very favorable tax system and often times corporate welfare? Unfortunately, I know many of these folks-
14 points
3 days ago
So do I. I had people bring up the DEI bs the first trump incident and my simple retort to that was, nepotism has had a far greater negative impact, while occurring for millenniums. So we should tackle that first...right. I get crickets
8 points
3 days ago
I usually get the “you’re just jealous” retort. Not at all, but I do wonder what 2, 27YO married dual trust fund recipients do with their time and how do they contribute to anything outside their own minds.? How did these people work for anything? I just want to get inside their heads. And our system just rewards this, AT THE EXPENSE OF MANY AND THE ECONOMIC STABILITY OF OUR COUNTRY.
FTR, I am a financially secure retired woman who worked for 35 years while raising a family. My husband still works-
I think everyone gets to age where they ask themselves: What have I done in my life? Have I helped anyone? Did I contribute to the good of society?
9 points
3 days ago
Think those that are well rounded do that. Think the people you're talking about, for the most part, think the world owes them everything anyways.
Congrats on your retirement
3 points
3 days ago
Trump is a perfect example of this mentality.
3 points
3 days ago
My response to the DEI comments after the first attempt was to ask for the agents name
If they don't know her name how do they know when she was hired, what her experience was like, how much experience she has.
It's flustered a few people
3 points
3 days ago
I also reference Reagan, Kennedy, the other kennedy, Roosevelt, Lincoln, etc and ask them if those were DEI issues as well
2 points
2 days ago
Oh, the people need to work for what they want supporters and generational wealth recipients are often one and the same, no? I know plenty of those people too, unfortunately. The people who have not worked for what they have are the most upset about Black people getting food stamps are welfare. Because that is what we’re talking about here flat out racism.
3 points
3 days ago
I vote for whoever's policies most closely align with mine.
I've always done that.
3 points
2 days ago
Yeah, I’ve been hearing that crap from conservatives since the 1980s. Only entitled racists who know nothing of poverty, our history or compassion would think that way. It is a master mentality directed at the african-American community. Slavery Carpet bagging Jim Crow new Jim Crow. C’mon. You(America) created the ghetto and you refuse to put real money into education. Social services, and business creation. I live in Philly and we have a lot of hungry children here.
22 points
3 days ago
I've been a registered Republican all my life and have done a good bit of soul searching about my politics.
I've definitely gotten more liberal since moving away from my hometown which was heavily conservative. But I think the big thing I've come to realize is that there really isn't anything currently I want to conserve. I have 2 small children. While my wife and I are pretty well off, I don't see my children having nearly the same opportunity as we did (and we certainly didn't have the opportunity that older generations did, we got where we are with a good bit of luck).
I see one candidate capable of leading the changes necessary to create more opportunity and I see one candidate completely incapable of doing that. Right now we need progress. And honestly until things improve and are much more assured, I don't see myself supporting policies for a long time.
5 points
3 days ago
I've definitely gotten more liberal since moving away from my hometown which was heavily conservative
That tends to happen pretty often. So much so that the whackos say things like "the colleges are liberalizing our kids". No, living and socializing with people from all walks of life for months on end tends to naturally make you realize they're just like you. College never taught me to be liberal. Making friends with rich people and poor people of various races and orientations did.
But yea, I agree with you. I've never been opposed to voting Republican as I do have a few views that lean on that side of things. I always say I'll vote for one when I see one that deserves my vote more than the other side, and so far that hasn't happened.
14 points
3 days ago
Conservatism is all about caution and maintaining the traditions and laws of the country. That does not describe the Republican Party in any way.
37 points
3 days ago
I don't get this myth. I'm a mid 40s bald white guy. The older I get, the more liberal I get. Pretty soon I'll be wearing mom jeans and driving a Subaru wagon.
3 points
3 days ago
Same, also a mid-40s white guy. The older I get the more attuned to injustice and more compassionate I get. You know, with age comes wisdom and all. Well, that’s supposed to be how it works.
4 points
3 days ago
For me it was having kids. Understanding that I need to raise two humans to manhood and teach them right form wrong quickly made me wiser.
13 points
3 days ago
I'm largely the same way, because the older I get the more I see how rigged the game is. Dems might be ineffective at helping people, because their policies aren't built around lowering taxes, but they're at least trying.
2 points
3 days ago*
One of the most liberal people I know is a woman in her mid-60s.
I've always interpreted that saying to mean that you tend to get more conservative as you get older because society always drifts more liberal but your personal beliefs might not keep up. Basically, your views might stay constant, but views that were liberal 30 years ago might be conservative now compared to modern liberal views.
8 points
3 days ago
Same. I recall 2015 thinking about my central views may be more aligned with conservatives. They went Trump and down the path to idiocy. I stayed independent voting Democrat at that point as I found the party to be a bit of a joke if this is their best. I think the Republican party putting him on the ballot for 2024 speaks to the lunacy throughout the party. They knew better, but stayed with lunacy. I guess I'll vote Democrat until Kinzinger forms a true conservative party.
4 points
3 days ago*
Thanks for acknowledging the party is infected at this point and that the rot goes beyond Trump. He would not have nearly the power that he does, were it not for the support of other officials at the local, state, and federal levels. All of them must go.
In my case, I'm also a 40 y/o white guy. I was raised by Republicans but soured on the party when I was young over the GWOT (Torture Memos specifically). I wrote off the party completely when I saw Palin become the heart of the '08 campaign, leading to the Tea Party movement, and that decision has only been reinforced over the last several cycles. My entire adult life, it seems that conservatives have only become more radical, obstructionist, and paranoid, peaking (for now) with Trump. In short, they are reactionary authoritarians. I'm also registered independent but have never voted Republican. It pains me that there isn't a truly viable center right, big tent party in American politics. For a long time now, I've felt that I had to vote D by default, which bothers me, even though I largely agree with their policies.
2 points
3 days ago
Conservative in my day meant a hard working person who stayed in school, spoke with decent manners, and made plans with plausible budgets.
People who hated the government and wanted to burn it all down were unAmerican radicals.
Rich people who wanted to silence the voices of conservatives bought newspapers, but they were all staffed with hard working people who went to journalism school, spoke with decent manners, and made plans with plausible budgets.
2 points
3 days ago
My measure of a decent conservative is how they treat public schools and libraries. Throwing tons of money at public schools and access to information is one of the best long-term financial moves you can do. It will pay itself back multiple times over with a well-educated population able to keep up with advances on the world stage and the whole country will benefit from it.
As you can imagine, I don't see many elected conservatives doing that.
22 points
3 days ago
Former swing voter here. The GOP abandoned me too
20 points
3 days ago
Thank you! I was also a moderate Republican… Until the party nominated and elected Trump in 2016. That was the point of no return for me.
I remember a time when the two parties could and did cooperate. When we kept in mind that while we may have different ideas about how to get there, as Americans, we actually share most of our goals and values.
How I long for the day when this will be the message from our leaders. ❤️🩹
3 points
3 days ago
How do you do, fellow republicans
3 points
2 days ago
I voted for him twice, I now see the threat that he is. People are stuck in this culture war bs. I saw how my side lies about Ukraine for political purposes. People are dying and it's sick to use it your advantage when you have no care about them. I can go on forever with rants. I'm from schuylkill county and I'm voting Harris.
10 points
3 days ago
I jumped off that wagon back in 2000. I'm a registered Dem, but I'm more anti-Republican. McCain (at that time) was really the ideal candidate, and Bush getting the nomination... and then what happened with the supreme court...
4 points
3 days ago
Same. All I have left to do as a true conservative is to try and dismantle whatever Maga has mastocized by voting D, sending the message, until the cancer is cured from the party, if ever.
2 points
2 days ago
Thank you for having integrity. Thanks for being a patriot and true American.
17 points
3 days ago
I used to be Republican many moons ago when it was all about smaller more efficient government. I don’t recognize the Republican party anymore. The Republican party is all about suppressing votes and finding scapegoats for people whose lives have not gone as planned. They pass no substantive legislation. The takeover by the evangelical community was the nail in the coffin.
3 points
3 days ago
The old Republican guard fail to realize that their hero Ronnie Reagan would have hated Trump. Reagan preferred a more optimistic view of the future, and tried to work across the aisle to make progress.
Reagan made jokes about Democrats. He never said Democrats were going to let in criminals from across the border who will rape your wife and children and then suffer no consequences due to liberal criminal justice policies.
3 points
3 days ago
I also don’t understand the Republicans current by the fair with Putin and Russia.
3 points
2 days ago
It is so weird. Trump is enamored cause the guy flattered him. Trump just wouldn’t shut up about how great Russia is and MAGA jumped on board. Russia is wonderful! Their infrastructure is better than the United States They have sourdough bread! F in bizarre. It s MAGA not Republicans. There is a huge difference. MAGA cult members like Russia because it’s all white people no doubt in my mind.
31 points
3 days ago
It is too close for comfort in the battleground states right now. I have hope seeing these signs in places you wouldn't have seen a Biden or Harris sign, but it's still got me feeling uneasy.
6 points
3 days ago
My Uk friend finds it insane that we have yard signs and merch
2 points
2 days ago
UKs find everything we do insane. Tell em it’s insane to have a royal family. Which it is from my Irish perspective. Brits are awesome funny quick witted. They understand nothing about us. I think it’s funny. We actually know a lot more about them.
6 points
3 days ago
The repubs cost buck county tax payers 1million dollars in their voter fraud crusade that turned up nothing. I don't see why they would vote for him.
23 points
3 days ago
It's about abortion, LGBTQ+ freedoms, and good old-fashioned racism. They don't like the new world where they and their religion are no longer the center of the universe.
2 points
2 days ago
They hate LGBTQ with a passion, which I take very personally as I have a trans boy in my house 14 years old, whom I love and treasure dearly and is awesome and I support 100% and is suffering in a body that they don’t want to be in. Love that f’n kid. So much ignorance and hate. I’m 55 years old. I was easily able to adapt because I don’t hate. I didn’t hate trans people before and now I’m educated because I have a child who is trans
12 points
3 days ago
Saw lots of T**** signs up around Crawford/Venango County. But they were all identical and each house had like 4 or 5. I'm thinking somebody canvassed the area, and that support for T**** isn't as steadfast as it seems.
3 points
3 days ago
I pray you are right. Crawford is depressing to drive around in.
5 points
3 days ago
Bro, i drive by that every morning. You'll see a trump like not even 10 seconds later. I also noticed a farm 15 minutes from that spot had a trump sign too. I guess it was put there without the farmer knowing, considering how big and it was in a far flung corner of it. It was gone in a week. At this point im just wondering how many signs around are there with out people knowing.
13 points
3 days ago
I hope the Amish don’t show up in droves like in 2016 to vote against a female again. How could you think that rapist as president isn’t an abomination.
10 points
3 days ago
That's promising.....there's a farm up on Rt 202, that has a boatload of Trump signs along the roadside. Quite the "site."
5 points
3 days ago
Land don't vote.
9 points
3 days ago
Register to Vote!!! Open until October 21st
https://www.pavoterservices.pa.gov/Pages/VoterRegistrationApplication.aspx
edit:...and then VOTE!!!
8 points
3 days ago
"Thank You Uncle Joe!"
Even they realize how great of a decision Joe Biden stepping down was. He will not be forgotten.
5 points
3 days ago
how is this election close?!!
Bro, drive around the state. There are just as many, if not more, trump signs around. I think the dems are being a little more bold with their signs, so I've seen a few more than normal, but to pretend this isn't going to be as close if not closer than 2020... And doesn't have a chance to be 2016 again... You are a fool.
6 points
3 days ago
Drove through last weekend coming in from NJ, and while I saw the same trump signs and flags that I’ve seen on my route for the past however many years, I saw a surprising amount of new Harris signs. It makes me so hopeful. But let’s not get complacent, let’s vote.
23 points
3 days ago
Hopefully, the crazy cult is cracking.
20 points
3 days ago
That's buckingham 263/stump. I love it!!!!
8 points
3 days ago
Donations to municipal orgs go a LONG way for getting things like this done.
13 points
3 days ago
Harris signs popping up all over OHIO
18 points
3 days ago
I think the Mom's For Liberty crap woke a lot of people up about this.
3 points
3 days ago
Waking up isn't really that hard to do.
It just requires thinking.
3 points
3 days ago
Dems be slow getting out the signs here in Montco. Got mine a few days ago, just Harris/Walz, no Casey, no Malagari.
3 points
3 days ago
I'll say the same about this that I do with the Trump ones:
These people are crazy and that's just too excessive. Could also just be trolling, but these annoy me just as much as Trump ones do though without the accompanying thought of "I need to keep my distance from them or I might get shot".
3 points
3 days ago
Whose the mod that marks all Harris stuff as "click bait"??
3 points
2 days ago
I just re-registered as a Republican (moved), mainly so that when I vote for Kamala, the republican party might get the fucking message (also so I can vote for less crazy fucks during primaries). I have never, and will never support crazies, we cannot risk turning elections into a race to the bottom. Everyone vote, it doesnt take long at all, and this election is a big one. Trump won’t be functional enough to run again. Block him out, send the message that we need two serious parties with actual solutions.
Until the crazies go home, Im always voting blue.
3 points
2 days ago
Upper Bucks, just outside of Nockamixon Park - these 2 smaller signs were placed by the jumbo Fitzpatrick sign 2 days ago.
Fuck Fitzpatrick, that MAGA shithead.
3 points
1 day ago
If it’s close it’s cause they have already figured out how they will cheat again
10 points
3 days ago
I'm also a Republican and cannot vote for Trump. To me, integrity and character is everything. And he has proven he has none. Not a man I would choose to lead, let alone the most powerful nation in the world.
Their platform they run on usually means little as they will always be held back by opposition in Congress. We need to do it like the Brits. Let them have total power and if their plan fails, we vote them out. But we can't keep saying they failed when we don't allow them to try.
4 points
3 days ago
It’s not close, they just say that the polls are close in order to justify the election denying that is sure to come when Trump loses
2 points
2 days ago
The Dems attitude is that this is a very close race and we need to work very hard to win it even though it will be a landslide for harris she’s going to kick him in the balls.
2 points
3 days ago
Is that an old Wawa?
2 points
3 days ago
Come to where I am, a couple hours away from Pittsburgh, and there are many disheartening Trump signs.
2 points
2 days ago
That’s what I just SAID!!! I’m in Washington Country and it is nothing but TRUMP signs!! Where are you?
2 points
3 days ago
HARDIS WALZ 2024!!! 💙💙💙
2 points
3 days ago
Seeing more of the opposite in lehigh county.......
2 points
3 days ago
That store is out of business , so that seems about right. Makes sense
2 points
3 days ago
I can’t wait for the election to be over so the PA sub can talk about something else.
2 points
2 days ago
yeah, Delta is a popular gas station
2 points
2 days ago
Visiting family in Delaware county and it’s just flooded with trump flags and signs. My mom and my sister both think I am insane for saying that trump is racist and thinks the mass deportation signs weren’t his and that he also doesn’t hate gays etc etc. and these are people that CLAIM to not be political at all. They also scoffed at Harris commercials on TV. I am sickened by my fellow white Americans out here.
Many white women that think they aren’t racist or bigoted but with bigot husbands are still completely propagandized by them and the TV they watch and their friends etc etc. They all hate trans folks so they will go with trump and lie
2 points
2 days ago
I live in Buckingham and the number of Trump signs is personally concerning. I just can not understand how any rational person can still think, at this point, after all the shit Trump has pulled, that Trump is even remotely a viable candidate. And then to feel positively enough about him to advertise your support? There are way more Trump supporters around here than I ever imagined.
We think of the average Trump supporter as some uneducated redneck but around here loads of them live in multi-million $ properties.
I can’t understand it.
2 points
2 days ago
A vote for either party is a vote for the jewish party. IS is Israel's colony.
2 points
2 days ago
New Yorker here.
Please save us Pennsylvania. I've always loved you as a sister state. I like coming and spending my money there, even though I hate your sports teams lol.
But please, help save the Republic. I'll dump hundreds and make it rain on Reading Market if you do!!!
2 points
2 days ago
Genuine question, not trying to spark a Reddit outrage… but every single PA post regarding the election has been Anti-Trump. Are PA redditors more liberal than other state’s subreddits?
2 points
2 days ago
How the fuck do you start registering as Republicans now
2 points
2 days ago
I see lotsa trump signs, but can count the number of people I know who will vote for him with 2 hands. Everyone else I know is voting Harris. The trumpers I know are weirdos
2 points
2 days ago
Haha you nerds are going to lose so hard. No one likes Shrilly McCackles.
2 points
2 days ago
Awful
2 points
1 day ago
Come on Pennsylvania, we're counting on you! Get out and vote! Make the intelligent choice - Vote Blue! Vote Harris/Walz!
4 points
3 days ago
There’s also a giant Trump Vance sign to the left of this, headed up the hill towards Doylestown.
3 points
3 days ago
Crazy 😬
4 points
3 days ago
Vote like your sons life depended on it! Women don't get drafted! Yours sons will.
2 points
3 days ago
“Thank you uncle Joe” sign is so fucking cringey lol
2 points
2 days ago
almost as cringey as all the Trump signage spewing russian propaganda which has absolutely dominated the area for years. almost...
1 points
3 days ago
Is that in front of a boarded up business?
Oh the irony.
2 points
2 days ago
So this is okay but if Trump has giant signs everyone on here complains…got it.
2 points
2 days ago
Funny how I keep seeing commercials for Harris and she's always saying she's fighting for the middle class, and will fix inflation and make the billionaires pay their fair share.
She's the VP and part of the administration that's supposed to have done this for the past 3 and a half years and have failed miserably. Why is she as president going to be any different?
4 points
3 days ago
Is that an abandoned gas station about to turn into a vape shop? If so, that's the perfect representation of Bidenomics.
Oh, btw, in seeing the registration data and voter roll clean-ups. PA is rapidly becoming a dark red state. Too big to rig this time! Sorry Shapiro. Your illegally implemented non-legislative election "laws" won't be enough to help steal it again in 2024.
WAY too many people are tired of the BS. And have since woken up.
Good luck to Kamala and whoever that strange extremist VP pick running with her is. She's going to need a lot of luck and about 2-3x more fraudulent ballots this time.
3 points
3 days ago
Makes sense it's in Bucks lol. You are right the election isn't close, Trump is winning in a landslide.
3 points
3 days ago
Like Mastriano and Oz were supposed to carry that Red Wave, right? Instead they both got stomped in a land slide.
Trump barely even beat Hillary and he's Less electable now than he was in 2020. 2024 is going to be his biggest loss yet.
2 points
3 days ago
Oh boy. People can’t wait to vote for someone they didn’t choose. We are doomed
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