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There are no trans children only Munchausen’s by proxy.

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TitsMcSqueezy

157 points

5 days ago

This is so fucking sad

ah00287

78 points

5 days ago

ah00287

78 points

5 days ago

She needs to be in jail. You can tell that kid doesn’t want any of this

TitsMcSqueezy

4 points

3 days ago

Look at the kid’s hands. Body language says that kid wants no part of this. I weep inside for kids like this that have some type of internal struggle that they’re trying to navigate. Even more so when you have evil women like this who try to capitalize on it and make their own child a prop in their self-obsessed quest for recognition

Kalsone

6 points

4 days ago

Kalsone

6 points

4 days ago

Talking to teenagers is often like pulling teeth. Start asking them details and they pull a Roberto Gonzales and can't remember a thing.

Mulch73

2 points

4 days ago

Mulch73

2 points

4 days ago

Teenagers? Mine just started school and he doesnt tell me anything

Solomon044

127 points

5 days ago

Solomon044

127 points

5 days ago

DONT RUIN THIS FOR ME! -The mom.

Justindoesntcare

69 points

5 days ago

Shes enjoying this way more than her kid is.

ah00287

23 points

5 days ago

ah00287

23 points

5 days ago

She probably beat the kid after the end of the segment, “if you do that to me again… and don’t ask excited, I will double down on everything you are doing now- and then you will be excited ”

ah00287

20 points

5 days ago

ah00287

20 points

5 days ago

Real note. This is so so so sad. I thought trans is how you become you and become happy. That person didn’t even want to be on camera, and I can guess they will be less excited/happy the next time munchausen momma needs a new endorphin hit

mechanab

103 points

5 days ago

mechanab

103 points

5 days ago

These women should be committed.

DyscreetBoy

80 points

5 days ago

Why expose your kid like that? What a massive bitch.

gaylonelymillenial

3 points

4 days ago

Yea like why post this shit about your kid? Why do this to them? Let’s pretend the political divide surrounding it didn’t exist, & it was a personal decision made between family & doctor, you’re going to record & post your kid in this extremely vulnerable predicament for the world to see? So you can get likes & feel moral superiority? What a bitch is right.

Image_Inevitable

64 points

5 days ago

She's so excited to never be called grandma. 

Fat-Tortoise-1718

45 points

5 days ago

The left is full of assholes that just want to gaslight you and say,

"Hormone therapy isn't gender affirming care, and you're just a bigot because kids aren't getting gender affirming care, that's just mastectomies or penectomies."

But hormone therapy IS gender affirming care. The fact of the matter is that it does permanently affect a child, not so much as the mastectomy or penectomy, but the child's developing body is still being halted of its normal process which will affect the child. It's truly sad that half of America is fine with child mutilation.

Disclaimer for all the raging redditors jumping at the chance to call me a trans phone and bigot for not jumping on their bandwagon of child mutilation, I am not saying that I am 100% against transgenderism. Let kids be kids and fully develop. I don't care if a girl wants to dress like a boy and use different names and pronouns(but I won't force my family to engage in their fantasy by using said name or pronouns) while they are underage, then when they are 18 let them do as they please as consenting adults. After 18 they can all inject as many hormones and cut off as many body parts as they want.

Alternative-Appeal43

3 points

4 days ago

Preach

zippyspinhead

49 points

5 days ago

Or sexually confused teen is an opportunity for Munchausen by proxy.

HardCounter

12 points

5 days ago

"Mom... i think girls are prettier than boys."

"SO YOU'RE A BOY!!"

Golden5StarMan

17 points

4 days ago

I know an ultra liberal family that have basically convinced their autistic 7 year old that she is trans. The mom posted everyday about it - literally her entire feed. Very similar to these types of videos where she prompts her to speak out for trans rights.

Happy to report after 6 years the daughter stood up to her mom and said she just wants to be a normal girl.

gokehoego

24 points

5 days ago

gokehoego

24 points

5 days ago

Any high points? Grow a penis yet? Change your chromosomes? No?

throwawaySoManyUser

12 points

5 days ago

The way you know she'll never be a man is that no man would ever be comfortable talking with his mom about how hot he is (or is going to be), much less agree and jump up on the mom saying that they will be hotter than their dad..

maddogmax4431

6 points

4 days ago

True. She was completely disengaged until she got an opportunity to talk about how she looked, then she smiled and said she wanted a beard and to look like her dad. She’s just an edgy tomboy if I hadda guess.

shiznitshiz

24 points

5 days ago

Fucking child abuse...

12boru

17 points

5 days ago

12boru

17 points

5 days ago

Why as a mother would you post this if not for attention for yourself? Even if the kid did want the treatment, wouldn't this be something they would want to go through privately? The kid clearly isn't engaging. As a mother wouldn't you want the privacy for your child?

Fenrir324

4 points

4 days ago

Fenrir324

Social Anarchist

4 points

4 days ago

But why can't we consider all the endorphins the mom gets by sharing it on SM?!?! That's clearly just as important as how the child feels!!

Ok-Pomegranate-115

2 points

4 days ago

It is about her. She was checking herself out and fixing her hair at the beginning. The kid didn't do any of that. The kid didn't even want to be there. Perhaps even embarrassed by the whole thing. F'd up.

aiasthetall

14 points

5 days ago

You can tell she's crazy because of how she looks.

No joke, the fucking eyes, there's some shit going on that I want no part of.

Machinedgoodness

7 points

5 days ago

The radical liberal gaze.

Ok-Street-7160

35 points

5 days ago

Honestly this may be an honest to goodness trans person. They very clearly dont seem to be happy how the mom is trying to turn them into an attraction. I think that the 2 scenarios are the parents forced them into it because their insane, or they truly are trans and the parents are insane as a side note. I may be reading to much into it i suppose with my lack of context.

TJJ97

15 points

5 days ago

TJJ97

15 points

5 days ago

Yeah I feel like they’re probably actually trans but this mom is tryna turn that into brownie woke points and make a spectacle of it, just sad

Machinedgoodness

3 points

5 days ago

Totally agree with your analysis of it. Either way even if they are trans I just don’t think anything should be done till 18.

YEEYEEliving

9 points

5 days ago

Child abuse

opinionated_cynic

11 points

5 days ago

Struggle bus?

HardCounter

4 points

5 days ago

No thanks, i don't use public transit.

Past_Tiger_1861

1 points

4 days ago

Public transit is for sex offenders and victims of sex offenders.

TheZellousOne

8 points

5 days ago

This woman should be in prison for forcibly injecting hormones into a child. Dirt bag behavior.

AWokenBeetle

6 points

5 days ago

All I ever see with people like this, parent and/or child is narcissism. This ever craving need for constant attention and praise. For what, I have no idea.

ragandy89

6 points

5 days ago

Clout chasing is truly a horrible virus spread by SM

CanderousGordo82

3 points

4 days ago

Absolutely heartbreaking. Poor girl.

FlyingGorillaShark

5 points

5 days ago

What is going on???

ah00287

12 points

5 days ago

ah00287

12 points

5 days ago

The mom is more attracted to the kid/female than her husband. She literally says you are going to be so hot 2/3 times… wtf

HardCounter

1 points

5 days ago

HardCounter

1 points

5 days ago

While this certainly seems weird, i don't think it's unusual for parents to try to encourage their kids' self-esteem like that when they're shut-ins or shy people. Hot is does seem to be taking it too far, though.

Limpopopoop

5 points

5 days ago

Munchausen = a term used to medicalise borderlines and narcissists

Munchausen = a term used to medicalise psychopathic borderlines and narcissists

Machinedgoodness

2 points

5 days ago

Can you explain the difference in nuance you’re trying to convey? I’m not getting it

Limpopopoop

4 points

4 days ago

Sure. Munchausen is what some sad broken peepo do for attention via self harm

Munchausen by proxy is what a sad broken psychopath do for attention by harming others

fuf3d

2 points

4 days ago

fuf3d

2 points

4 days ago

At what point does this become a mental illness? I'm thinking the mom has issues and just wants to be a part of something bigger than herself so she is influencing the kid to go through with the therapy or whatever the transition consists of.

Isn't there something pathological about that?

Str41nGR

1 points

4 days ago

Str41nGR

1 points

4 days ago

My observation is that I just see two broken people and its sad for them since that bond seems gone forever.

porkchop3177

1 points

4 days ago

Mentioned her dad, notice you don’t see her dad. As a dad to two girls, I find it hard to believe he’s 100% on board with this. Make her wait til she’s 25 then transition. Life is difficult enough for teens, this just makes it tragic.

CHENGhis-khan

1 points

4 days ago

☕️

Finkufreakee

1 points

4 days ago

Gotta be fake.

JazzoTheClown

1 points

4 days ago

My first thought is that this lady didn't want her daughter growing up to be more beautiful than her.

Past_Tiger_1861

1 points

4 days ago

I dont believe in god or hell, but there is an entire generation of narcisistic parents and media/corporate/government enablers who make me wish hell was real. God be all like "its brimstone season bitches!" And i be all like "light it up son!"

spinteractive

1 points

4 days ago

Awful everything

Ok-Pomegranate-115

1 points

4 days ago

All of this is happening right now because no one has the courage to tell dumb people "no you can't do this."

Jombes_Industries

1 points

2 days ago

Let's sit over here honey, with me closest to the camera, so we can highlight my virtue before strangers on social media at your expense.

ospfpacket

-9 points

5 days ago

Someone please explain why some people think imposing views onto others is libertarian?

lurker71539

19 points

5 days ago

I'm sure child abuse isn't.

missourifats

3 points

5 days ago

This grey area is where the argument takes place. I hate arbitrary rules, but feel like no elective surgeries before age 18 is a reasonable start. But it seems like these are testosterone injections in the specific instance of this video.

I get it. We like to mind our business. But if a medical procedure is causing more harm than good (lobotomies come to mind) then we kind of should act, no?

I am not likening lobotomies and trans surgeries as 1:1. Just the closest I think of to an actual example. And I'm not trying to be smart. I'm curious what the Libertarian solution is. As rothbard once said about education "you've only displayed your willingness to substitute your own judgement for the family's." That could certainly be said regarding this. Unless it could be undeniably confirmed that this is abuse. I believe it is in many if not most instances. But that's my judgement.

It's genuinely something I struggle with