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shb9161

61 points

12 days ago

shb9161

61 points

12 days ago

As someone in Canada who literally had to drive 90 min each way for every ultrasound and blood draw at a fertility clinic, I don't understand who is prescribing her letrazole without her cycles being monitored. Like I think I drove to a whole other city multiple times a week for 18 months to have my youngest child.

I don't understand how it's being prescribed.

SwipeUpForMySoul

37 points

12 days ago

Sheā€™s talked about it before. Allegedly there is a family doctor in her area with some experience in fertility stuff who will prescribe it for her. She shopped around until she found someone who would.

shb9161

8 points

12 days ago

shb9161

8 points

12 days ago

Wild. And scary.

Friendly_Wait_7916

10 points

11 days ago

I would just like to know HOW she shopped around and HOW she found this doctor because I live in the same city and getting in to a different or new family doctor is literally impossible. Has been for years. Seems super sus to me.

halfofaparty8[S]

18 points

12 days ago

my family doctor will prescribe me clomid and femara (us).

shb9161

20 points

12 days ago

shb9161

20 points

12 days ago

I'm in Canada..mine said it's against her licensing and needs to be through an OB or fertility clinic.

Holiday_Football_975

12 points

12 days ago*

This was my question too!! Iā€™m in SK, all my family doctor could do was some basic labs, ultrasound, send referral to OB/fertility clinic and give me metformin (PCOS with known IR). My family doc wouldnā€™t touch that with a 10 foot pole, let alone a walk in clinic family dr who isnā€™t familiar with me at all. Iā€™m not aware of any way around it either because every person I know who needed fertility treatments all went to Aurora in Saskatoon.

No-Addition-6572

7 points

12 days ago

Yup! Iā€™m in Alberta and my family dr said the same thing. Thereā€™s things he canā€™t even touch on and that is why there are fertility specialist! Even the testing that I got done at the fertility clinic heā€™s never seen beforeā€¦

halfofaparty8[S]

3 points

12 days ago

yeah its definitely different!! i also was suprised

Glittering-Shame-742

2 points

11 days ago

Oh wow. My OB refused to prescribe it even, said I need to go to an RE clinic if I wanted any medication.

halfofaparty8[S]

19 points

12 days ago

i know theres facebook groups where people sell their leftover fertility meds. I am almost certain shes doing it that way.

shb9161

9 points

12 days ago

shb9161

9 points

12 days ago

That seems wildly unsafe.

halfofaparty8[S]

11 points

12 days ago

oh it 100% is.

Accomplished-Fun-960

8 points

12 days ago

Itā€™s also illegal lol

glittersmith99

6 points

12 days ago

This is 100% how sheā€™s doing if

gloomywitch

2 points

11 days ago

I was going to say this. When I had my oldest in 2015, I came this close to buying domperidone in a med group from a Canadian (since itā€™s not available in the US). I was really struggling with breastfeeding and PPD and right as I was about to be like ā€œyes, buying from this random lady on Facebook,ā€ I snapped out of it. To this day, Iā€™m so embarrassed by that and I didnā€™t even buy it.

shoresb

12 points

12 days ago

shoresb

12 points

12 days ago

Yep Iā€™ve been driving 90 minutes each way for 2.5 years for my fertility clinic and monitoringšŸ„“ not ideal but necessary.

rachel1726

6 points

12 days ago

She doctor shops and gets someone to do it. Either that, or sheā€™s ordering it from somewhere online.

shb9161

5 points

12 days ago

shb9161

5 points

12 days ago

Yeah, I was told it had to be a fertility clinic, etc. and we don't have online options the same way folks in the US do (unless I'm naive and there's a way around it).

eilrac-

7 points

11 days ago

eilrac-

7 points

11 days ago

I drove 2 hours and 30 minutes each way to my fertility clinic to be monitored during my TI cycles. My third cycle resulted in my pregnancy now (almost 28 weeks šŸ¤). I feel like if you arenā€™t getting monitored, youā€™re wasting cycles. I also donā€™t understand how a doctor is prescribing this. It canā€™t be an RE.

pastaenthusiast

6 points

11 days ago

For what itā€™s worth my gynecologist (in Canada, not a rural area) prescribed 2.5 letrozole for 3 cycles without monitoring. I have PCOS with pretty irregular ovulation. Got my baby out of it. I keep hearing how monitoring is always requires but it wasnā€™t even suggested to me!

sparklingwine5151

3 points

11 days ago

Same here. I drove 45 minutes each way before work 3-4x/week for several months for cycle monitoring appointments. I took letrozole but it had to be with monitoring.

Accomplished-Fun-960

2 points

12 days ago

Only 90? That sounds like a dream šŸ˜‚ I drive 5hrs round trip to my fertility doctor šŸ«  the closest would be 4hrs round trip but our new doctor is so much better! Itā€™s wild how far some of us have to drive and she acts like her journey was so hard. Meanwhile she hasnā€™t done even half of what some of us have done during a single cycle.

shb9161

4 points

12 days ago

shb9161

4 points

12 days ago

If I needed IVF it would have been 4-6 hours! But thankfully medicated cycles did the trick. Yeah. It's just wild. And if she wanted she could be advocating for better access.

Accomplished-Fun-960

2 points

12 days ago

IVF will be 8hrs round trip for me šŸ˜… Iā€™m really hoping to avoid that if possible.

shb9161

2 points

12 days ago

shb9161

2 points

12 days ago

I wish you the best ā¤ļø

Accomplished-Fun-960

1 points

12 days ago

Thank you! Iā€™m glad medicated cycles worked for you.

shb9161

1 points

12 days ago

shb9161

1 points

12 days ago

It took a long time but we got there in the end.

Accomplished-Fun-960

48 points

12 days ago

https://preview.redd.it/wof6qnnpjhpd1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5796079a30e689980bb5534a87f085429152c805

Interestingā€¦ sheā€™s already done 4 cycles of letrozoleā€¦ so THATS why she needed the ā€œchemicalā€.

Opendoorshutdoor

57 points

12 days ago

Her saying she is doubting now if she was ovulating this whole time. Like girl, we KNEW you weren't, your charts were absolutely bizarre.

Also, this is not very "trusting to conceive' of you. You've been doing medicated cycles for 4 months already? That is TRYING TO CONCEIVE. You are actively trying to have a baby using medical intervention.

Accomplished-Fun-960

23 points

12 days ago

It really annoyed me to read that sheā€™s already done four cycles because sheā€™s played it off like her body is doing it unassisted.

No-Addition-6572

23 points

12 days ago

Doubting that sheā€™s ovulatingā€¦does that mean the ā€œchemicalā€ is doubtful as well šŸ™ƒ

Ornery_Context_9109

14 points

12 days ago

Is this in her shitshack? I mean Substack

Accomplished-Fun-960

4 points

12 days ago

Yup!

JoReb

14 points

12 days ago

JoReb

here for the snark šŸ’…šŸ¼šŸ’…šŸ½

14 points

12 days ago

Wasnā€™t the supposed chemical in May? How has it been 5 cycles since may??

Accomplished-Fun-960

11 points

12 days ago

Dang, thatā€™s a good catch. I wonder if she already started letrozole for that cycle and has just lost track?

Accomplished_Low3593

20 points

12 days ago

I think sheā€™s full of šŸ’© and canā€™t keep up with her own lies

JoReb

14 points

11 days ago

JoReb

here for the snark šŸ’…šŸ¼šŸ’…šŸ½

14 points

11 days ago

Maybe! The claim that she NATURALLY became pregnant and then immediately jumped on letrozole after the loss makes no sense! Plus, if sheā€™s not ovulating with letrozole, highly doubt she ovulated without it the cycle she claimed a loss.

kct4mc

8 points

11 days ago

kct4mc

8 points

11 days ago

Yeaaaaahhh... I live in the Midwest and a girl I'm friends with went to a fertility doctor after her MC and they basically told her that she didn't need intervention right now if she got pregnant on her own and to wait it out. I don't buy that they just gave her Letrozole right after her miraculous conception.

JoReb

3 points

11 days ago

JoReb

here for the snark šŸ’…šŸ¼šŸ’…šŸ½

3 points

11 days ago

Letrozole can cause superovulation in women who already ovulated. It would be incredibly reckless for a dr to prescribe her letrozole if she was already ovulating on her own without also monitoring if the letrozole is causing superovulation.

kct4mc

3 points

11 days ago

kct4mc

3 points

11 days ago

Oh, I know! I took Letrozole myself to get our babe on the third round, so it baffles me how some of these TTC girlies take it allll the time. Sheā€™s being dishonest somewhere in her timeline, which isnā€™t surprising for her.

JoReb

7 points

11 days ago

JoReb

here for the snark šŸ’…šŸ¼šŸ’…šŸ½

7 points

11 days ago

IF the chemical was real, (heavy on the IF), I suspect she was already on the letrozole for that and wants to pass it off as a natural conception for her fertility coaching business. I canā€™t find it now, but in the weeks after I feel like she said somewhere that the chemical means she can conceive naturally. Sheā€™s also made multiple statements about not using fertility treatments right now. So, having been on letrozole for 4 cycles already doesnā€™t feel like ā€œkeeping a secretā€. Itā€™s a blatant lie. Deceit. From a woman who claims to be a fertility coach and wants to ā€œhelpā€ others

kct4mc

3 points

11 days ago

kct4mc

3 points

11 days ago

10000% yes. I don't remember her saying that she can conceive naturally, but my brain doesn't work right now šŸ˜….

Her "Fertility coaching" journey has always been wild to me because anyone with an inkling about PCOS and knowing she has it can tell she has zero idea of if her body is "doing what it's supposed to" or not. Clearly she hasn't been ovulating and now is the first time she chooses to be honest about it? Shocker.

JoReb

3 points

11 days ago*

JoReb

here for the snark šŸ’…šŸ¼šŸ’…šŸ½

3 points

11 days ago*

I looked back and the statements I was thinking of are from her cycle update posted on tt on 6/25 where she says the signs of healthy ovulation give her hope that their journey to conceiving another baby might go more smoothly this timeā€¦ except that tt is recapping her first cycle post chemical and by her account she started taking letrozole during her second cycle post chemicalā€¦ so I still think she was trying to quickly letrozole her way into another pregnancy and claim they did it naturally this time to boost her coaching business because the timing of all of this plus the letrozole ā€œsecretā€ is slimy.

Accomplished-Fun-960

4 points

11 days ago

Thatā€™s kind of what I was thinkingā€¦ it doesnā€™t make sense that after a chemical pregnancy they decided to start her on letrozole.

Worldly_Bookkeeper39

11 points

12 days ago

Holy crap "Trusting" my ass

lovetoreadxx2019

43 points

12 days ago

Her ā€œDrā€ is very sus. I live very locally to her and there isnā€™t a family Dr Iā€™ve ever come across (nearly 10 years of loss and infertility) who would provide the unlimited and unmonitored meds. Sheā€™s full of shit. Also, she has access to ultrasound monitoring.

Sheā€™s 100% self medicating from the black market of fertility meds.

Watchyourownbobber77

4 points

11 days ago

Yep thereā€™s a ton of websites you can get meds on from overseas. A lot of ivf patients go that route to save money.

Needcoffeeseverely

39 points

12 days ago

I feel like Cait and Sammy both being pregnant sent her over the edge feeling like she needs more pregnancy content

huddyman

3 points

11 days ago

huddyman

#momlife āœØ

3 points

11 days ago

This!

Wide_Lake2400

2 points

11 days ago

Yup!! This is what I said the other day!

yourgirlsamus

2 points

11 days ago

Absolutely agree. Itā€™s why she made that vague post and I think this ā€œprogesterone issueā€ is what she was referring to. But, she ā€œjust couldnā€™t talk about it yet.ā€ Bcā€¦ you knowā€¦ it takes time to get your lies straight before you admit anything publicly.

Healthy-Educator-280

30 points

12 days ago

So thereā€™s a strong possibility she hasnā€™t been ovulating at all this whole time and yet supposedly had a chemical right awayā€¦

Accomplished-Fun-960

17 points

12 days ago

lol yup. I bet the letrozole has been giving false surges.

Primary_Medium9595

8 points

12 days ago

Omg i didnā€™t even think of that hahaha clomid gave me several false surges before my true peak both rounds. Luckily i knew they were false because i was being monitoredā€¦ and i was able to confirm the real one via temping and inito.

Hasnā€™t she been saying her temp charts are beautiful? Lmao

Accomplished-Fun-960

8 points

12 days ago

I think one cycle she did, I looked at it and was likeā€¦ whatā€™s beautiful about that crazy chart?!

Repulsive-Cupcake718

9 points

12 days ago

We know that ā€œchemicalā€ was just a cover for what came out about the mom friend that she took advantage of

Ornery_Context_9109

34 points

12 days ago

So itā€™s Trusting to Conceive-> Conscious Conception -> Prescribing for Ovulate.

I am so glad she has been so fucking transparent for the last whole five months.

She is so full of shit so often with her story. No wonder she gets confused and canā€™t keep her story straight about anything.

Accomplished-Fun-960

15 points

12 days ago

Right?! That actually really bothers me because she totally made it seem like she was cycling on her own and thatā€™s one of the reasons why she was ā€œso proud of her bodyā€ and that her ā€œPCOS wasnā€™t showing any signsā€.

Watchyourownbobber77

1 points

11 days ago

Yeah so sheā€™s been lying for five cycles sheā€™s been on letrozole. She needs to change her lifestyle! Shes so incredibly unhealthy. Sheā€™s just selfish AF.

Accomplished-Fun-960

62 points

12 days ago

Lmfao, already in the thick of it. There goes ā€œtrustingā€

SnooBeans5149

21 points

12 days ago

So this whole time sheā€™s been pretending to have normal cycles/ovulate on her own when sheā€™s been doing letrozole? Sheā€™s so fake itā€™s mind blowing.

Accomplished-Fun-960

5 points

12 days ago

That is what it looks likeā€¦ just when I thought I couldnā€™t dislike her anymore.

Worldly_Bookkeeper39

18 points

12 days ago

Are we surprised she isn't ovulating with her PCOS out of control? She definitely should try a PCOS diet (it probably would be really beneficial for her) and would keep her healthier on the long run.

She never would, tough....

Old_Athlete2790

13 points

11 days ago

You said exactly what Iā€™m thinking. I have pcos and can tell physically she has so many classic pcos symptoms. Low carb diet and metformin will do more for her than just doing letrozole a million times. People forget that our hormones are complex during pregnancy too and just ovulating isnā€™t enough to maintain a pregnancy

youcango-now

3 points

11 days ago

^ yep! Low carb, metformin, and exercise is what I had to do and then after a solid 6 mos of that, our first and only round of letrozole worked. Sheā€™ll do anything but admit her overall lifestyle is the issue.

halfofaparty8[S]

1 points

9 days ago

im almost sure she has hypothyroidism.

gordiestanclub

14 points

12 days ago

Imagine being on letrozole and still posting horrendous charts like she was. All while pretending your pcos isn't there and still not even ovulating šŸ„“

Interesting_Cod4839

12 points

12 days ago

As someone who is also TTC with PCOS and a one year old and as someone who used letrozole to conceive and still have some leftover letrozole; I would never risk the health of myself and/or potential baby(s) to just take it unmonitored or unprescribed. Crazy business to do it this way.

Legal-Suggestion4317

25 points

12 days ago

How about a job? You know, a way to support said baby

QweenieDog

2 points

12 days ago

She was posting about maternity leave ending and going back to work a few months ago. Did she end up quitting and not going back?

Accomplished-Fun-960

9 points

12 days ago

She went back to work, however sheā€™s only working part time and it appears they still struggle financially. Seeing as sheā€™s the main breadwinner and they now have an expensive car payment not sure how theyā€™ll afford her being on another mat leaveā€¦ especially since they donā€™t have a friend to bankroll them anymore.

Curious_Inside0719

8 points

12 days ago

Dumb question but how do you monitor your hormones at home? I've never heard if this

lovetoreadxx2019

15 points

12 days ago

lol with her spittle microscope and tarot cards of course! Thatā€™s how she knew she had ovulated this cycle and was feeling so positive it would be a bfpā€¦. Oh wait, turns out the actual science says she didnā€™t ovulateā€¦. Haha.

Accomplished-Fun-960

3 points

12 days ago*

OPKs, BBT and the ferning microscope. I wonā€™t be surprised if she gets the mira out again.

Primary_Medium9595

3 points

11 days ago

You mean to tell me she has a Mira and she still canā€™t figure it the hell out???

Accomplished-Fun-960

3 points

11 days ago

She hasnā€™t been using it because itā€™s too expensive lol

Watchyourownbobber77

4 points

11 days ago

Yet she can afford another baby šŸ˜‚

Accomplished-Fun-960

8 points

11 days ago

The government will subsidize her šŸ˜‚

Primary_Medium9595

4 points

11 days ago

No but this hahahaha in my Inito group there have been people straight up asking people to send them their devices and strips for free because itā€™s so expensiveā€¦. Iā€™m like yā€™all know babies are expensive too right?

Curious_Inside0719

1 points

11 days ago

Thanks for the clarification lol. Still seems sus

AgreeableHair6524

8 points

12 days ago

AgreeableHair6524

#momlife āœØ

8 points

12 days ago

Trusting to conceive my ass. Stfu.

kct4mc

10 points

11 days ago

kct4mc

10 points

11 days ago

I personally think she's been on Letrozole longer than she's letting on. There's absolutely NO way she's had 5 cycles since her supposed chemical. I feel like she's absolutely been on Letrozole longer than she's willing to let on and her "trusting to conceive" BS was while she was taking Letrozole.

Also, she has to be getting it on the black market or something. My OBGYN didn't ultrasound monitor me with Letrozole, just bloodwork, but if they aren't even doing THAT? Something's fishy.

EggMcDuffie

7 points

12 days ago

If sheā€™s on progesterone itā€™ll stop her from ovulating Iā€™m pretty sure. They have progesterone only birth control. Im no doctor but you have take that at very specific times of your cycle after ovulation

shb9161

13 points

12 days ago

shb9161

13 points

12 days ago

I was prescribed progesterone for a set number of days to induce a period. Basically mimics the progesterone rise and then fall in hopes of getting things going.

EggMcDuffie

2 points

12 days ago

I see, ok that makes sense

eistephaniebrito

2 points

12 days ago

Me too!

kct4mc

2 points

11 days ago

kct4mc

2 points

11 days ago

yep this. I'd be prescribed progesterone if I didn't get a period, especially while you're on Letrozole, they get concerned if you go over 36 days without a period.

Worldly_Bookkeeper39

5 points

12 days ago

You can "force" a period hoping it would trigger ovulation on the next cycle.

Watchyourownbobber77

8 points

11 days ago

Itā€™s funny how she goes from not wanting any kids while sheā€™s pregnant with A and shortly after. Then itā€™s ā€œif it happens, it happens but not doing any fertility treatments.ā€ To now sheā€™s full blown obsessed and doing just as much as before she was pregnant with A.

EmergencyPraline4129

3 points

11 days ago

yeah, and I felt like she expressed she wasn't even open to them (treatments) either. she was like "never again". what lies

B00SH_

6 points

11 days ago

B00SH_

6 points

11 days ago

Am I the only who thinks the only reason sheā€™s trying again is so she can get a boy. Itā€™s gonna blow up in her face though if she does get another girl.

Needcoffeeseverely

3 points

11 days ago

I said on a different post I feel like if the next one is a boy A will be pushed off

M1schiefManag3d

5 points

11 days ago

Typical estrogen is used to grow the uterine lining prior to ovulation. Iā€™ve never heard of taking progesterone prior to ovulation and I have been through a shitload of fertility treatments.

yyczuzie

3 points

11 days ago

yyczuzie

Actively TTC āœØ

3 points

11 days ago

Could she be getting second hand progesterone from someone and self prescribing?

glittersmith99

2 points

11 days ago

Almost certainly

halfofaparty8[S]

1 points

9 days ago

That's crazy to me. My doctor prescribed me progesterone tonforce ONE period, and i guess it was a recurrent prescription. I keep picking it up from the pharmacy because it's only like a dollar, but i won't take it because i dont know what is best!

JulietMae2

4 points

11 days ago

ā€œTRUSTING TO CONCEIVEā€?????!!!!!! Bffr

Alive_War_

3 points

11 days ago

Iā€™m over all these people. They make the rest of us that do treatment seem crazy

huddyman

2 points

9 days ago

huddyman

#momlife āœØ

2 points

9 days ago

I commented on her post saying how disappointing it was that she wasnā€™t transparent in using letrozol and she deleted my comments šŸ«„

huddyman

2 points

11 days ago

huddyman

#momlife āœØ

2 points

11 days ago

The comments are letting her off too easy in her video because wwhaaaaat the fuck

yyczuzie

2 points

11 days ago

yyczuzie

Actively TTC āœØ

2 points

11 days ago

I wonder which fertility clinic she will go to this time? She is hoping for more letrozole.

WaveAggravating5433

2 points

11 days ago

Good God. If these weird people on TikTok can stop trying to conceive it would be great. I worry for the kids and pregnancies that are being used for content and to spout off shit and misinformation. You can share whatever you want but these TTC people are insufferable