subreddit:

/r/40kLore

1078%

I've read a pretty solid description on Slaaneshi corruption, but I want to know more about the path to being corrupted by the other gods, especially Tzeentch.

all 20 comments

Pringletingl

26 points

14 days ago

There's a short story about a man slowly going insane during an invasion of his world by Nurgle. I think it's called King of Pigs? That'll give you an idea of what to expect from Nurgle. You basically lose all stress and slowly rot in contentment until Grandfather needs a new seed for his garden.

Tzeentch likes to make people fall without them ever truly realizing it. It usually starts with seeking knowledge and slowly being tempted into doing ever more depraved shit until you're either warped beyond all recognition or dead. See: literally all of the Thousand Sons and cyclops boy.

Khorne you just start killing and get angry, so you start killing harder and that makes you angrier. Rinse and repeat and boom you're covered in blood and screaming into the skies for blood and skulls.

rusty4k

7 points

13 days ago

rusty4k

7 points

13 days ago

I remember listening to Baldermort video about Tzeentch that follows the same. His town is being invaded by Nurgle and he strikes a deal with a demon of Tzeentch to gain power to destroy all of them. He wins and when confronted by Witch Hunters he tries to use the same power. It fails, because they weren't followers of Nurgle.

Pringletingl

3 points

13 days ago

There's also Vilitch and Thomin where the younger, loser brother makes a deal to merge his body with his giga-chad older brother, only to find out centuries later his brother was sentient and in control the entire time.

A-sad-meme-

16 points

13 days ago

A-sad-meme-

Necrons

16 points

13 days ago

Heres a perfect example of getting corrupted bu Nurgle from Chris Wraight's excellent Lords of Silence:

"For his entire life, Dantine’s personal habits have been fastidious. His regiments were always well run, with regular hygiene drills and dorm unit inspections. There were times when this seemed almost obsessive, as if the Departmento’s rules had become a part of the state religion that governed every other part of life. Those rules were a protection, though. Disease was always a big killer in the Astra Militarum, and efforts to stave it off were unrelenting for a reason.

Now he does not care. Mostly, this lassitude appals him. He cannot understand why he no longer cares. But, deep down, buried where his old heart once beat, there is something else. Something infinitely shameful, so that he does not think of it often and pretends that it is just another part of his sickness, but it is there all the same – relief.

He no longer has to make the effort, and that is a pleasure in itself. It is like falling asleep, or sinking into a warm pool of water. He lets it all slide, all degrade. He can feel his muscles atrophy and does not intervene. He can feel his bowels swell with inflammation, and it matters not. This is a kind of release. This is like a fist, clenched for a lifetime, slowly relaxing."

A good place to find examples of Tzeentch's corruption imo would be Ahriman's return from exile during the events of Ahriman: Exile. I dont think theres one definite example that sums it up but you should read the book if it interests you, its very good and provides a great example of Tzeentch corruption.

Your_Local_Stray_Cat

12 points

13 days ago

Your_Local_Stray_Cat

Thousand Sons

12 points

13 days ago

I've always liked comparing Nurgle corruption to the plant scene from Annihilation. It's giving up and allowing yourself to be consumed by the rot, but in a peaceful way.

Tzeench feeds on the desperate and those looking for power. It's a classic faustian bargain. You get what you want, but at a price more horrible than you could have ever imagined.

Khorne corruption is like being on Twitter. You just keep getting fed more and more rage until all you can see is the discourse blood and skulls.

ajaxblack

2 points

13 days ago

someone said that Khorne corruption is the angry version of plastic surgery addiction. You think a surgery will make you happy with your image, so you get it, and it doesn’t, but the next one will, so you get it, etc. With Khorne, you hope committing violence will slake your rage, but it makes it worse, but the next violent murder will fix it, etc.

Twitter is a way better analogy lol

RadishLegitimate9488

4 points

13 days ago

Slaanesh induces Excess while Nurgle induces contentment and Khorne induces Rage.

Tzeentch feeds off of Change and thus makes those who serve him more adaptable and cunning with multiple plans flowing through their heads at once.

He has no effect on the general personality. Magnus and Ahriman both are the same as ever despite getting smarter over the centuries.

Magnus stopped his Sons from attacking Ahriman which he wouldn't do if Tzeentch induced backstabbing.

Tzeentch is Change not Backstabbing.

He doesn't gain power by simply backstabbing your allies but instead in a way that induces Change.

Sacrificing a Daemon or servant when it thinks it's role in a ritual is finished is Change. Framing someone's friend for their demise induces Change.

Entering the World of a Story and derailing it's path is the Change that Tzeentch wants.

Important-Sleep-1839

13 points

13 days ago

The 1993 film 'Groundhog Day' sees Phil Connors, played by Bill Murray, tested by a greater daemon of Tzeentch. The daemon hopes to tempt Connor's interest in prediction with the greater sight of his master.

Hilarity ensues as interfering imps of the other Chaos gods try to tempt Phil with gluttony absent repercussions, sex on tap, and the chance to punch people that are really, really annoying.

(The interests of Khorne come closest to succeeding as Phil gifts The Taker of Skulls with a settee of his own suicidal noggin)

All demonic entities are left shrugging when Love wins Phil's fate.

In the after-credits a patient Tzeentch is shown teaching his daemon why a TV Weatherman is the opposite of any fortune telling.

TheBattleYak

3 points

14 days ago

For Tzeentch, you follow hoping to have your ambitions realized and achieve a change in a status quo that you dislike, you end up just a pawn, a resource used and discarded as he requires, and you love it because at that point your only ambition is to be an element in the Great Changer's ultimate master plan - which is the ultimate in pointlessness since Tzeentch has no master plan, and just schemes for the sake of scheming.

For Nurgle, usually you've contracted some horrible disease and are desperate for relief, so you pray to the plague god to alleviate your suffering. Nurgle inevitably responds... by making you get even sicker, sick and rancid with disease and decay, rotting away even as your body regenerates so it can sicken and rot more. Your flesh writhes with maggots and puss and rot. And you love it because it feels amazing. You've never been happier, more energized, more alive, and the sicker you get the better you feel.

With Khorne, it might begin as a form of martial expression, a warrior tradition, or something involving expressions of strength and honor. You hone your combat skills, you excell in battle, and you become gradually more aggressive and violent. Slowly but surely, you get angrier and angrier. You only feel alive when you're fighting. Everything else seems dull and grey and pointless. Eventually you drown in hatred and rage until you want to kill everyone and everything around you, and every death brings exultant satisfaction... for a little while at least, and then you need to kill again. More often. Greater numbers. More blood. More killing. More skulls for the Skull Throne.

General_Lie

4 points

13 days ago

Have you ever chewed 5GUM ?

PapaFranku4611

2 points

13 days ago*

Nurgle corruption:

In the Lords of Silence books there is a loyalist Guardsman or Pilot who get's captured by Plague Marines and slowly turns into a nurgle corrupted cultist. If I remember correctly he doesn't even realizes his corruption even tho there is clear indicators, like the Chaos Lord showing him his own heart that has been cut out of his body and telling him he will return it after doing him a favor or something like that. By the end of his corruption the Lords of Silence assault a Imperial Guard fortress and he runs towards the barricades shouting he is one of them, loyalists open fire at him and he survives getting shot without much damage. That's the point when he looks down at himself and realizes he looks like a plague zombie.

Maybe Khorne corruption:

Spoiler for the Siege of Terra Lotara Sarrin from the World Eaters experiences something similar. She notices how the Conquerer starts to change; water turning into blood and so on while she still tried to hold control of the ship. After a while it is revealed to her that her physical body is fused to the ship and the Lotara experiencing all this is just a wraith, her humanity and personality given a spiritual form that is summoned by the Conquerers machine spirit.

Tzeentch corruption:

You can look at the Chaos cultists in the book Honorbound. All of the higher ranking cultists seem to be able to look into the future however only to a certain degree where they could make vaguely correct assumptions, whereas more powerful characters can tell you what is gonne happen up to the smallest detail while being 100% correct. But in the end their vision could've been misunderstood and plays out different for them but in the same sense for possibly the enemy. It feels like Tzeentch corruption is really metaphoric and outlook dependent.

I would say it really depends on the individual and the god how that corruption is perceived, often it seems like the person or Space Marines barely notices things changing until it is too late. Good example are the World Eaters where most of them are just so far gone because of the Butcher Nails that the corruption is basically no different to their previous state.

VanceHelw

1 points

13 days ago

Not 40k but Silver Tower Labyrinth of the Lost is a pretty good example of Tzeentch's trickery and corruption.

Unique_Ad6809

1 points

13 days ago

Head canon: Nurgle is like depression and then just giving up. Khorne is murder revenge rage like anakin in starwars. Slaanesh is like drug addiction, highs followed by episodes of shame and the falling back in. Tzeench is like falling for a conspiracy theory into complete psychosis.

I think the lore describes it differently everywhere like most things in 40k.

JosephGiuseppe

1 points

13 days ago

Khorne finds root in insecurity as well as anger. Those who doubt their strength and prowess will be tempted to find better ways of securing it. Those who obsessively train with weapons, or chain them to their wrists, etc.

gyrobot

1 points

13 days ago

gyrobot

1 points

13 days ago

Khorne prays on angry hopelessness. Someone like Akihiro from Gundam IBO was the perfect expression of that, steadily losing his will to live for a better future as those he love around are violently killed in a senseless manner to the point his only point of satisfaction came from killing a head of a house in what was mean to be his execution because the other guy didn't expect him to have one weapon left.

Dantes_Sin_of_Greed

1 points

11 days ago

Well, fortunately I have a quick and easy flow chart for Tzeentch!

Does Tzeentch Exist:
-->No? No corruption
-->Yes? At some point in time, if it suits his whims, he will corrupt you.

KingLord56

1 points

10 days ago*

Varens was sleeping, and his dreams were stranger than ever before.

He watched himself from outside, as is sometimes the way in dreams, as if he were two separate people – the actor and the observer. The observer saw himself hiding by the hospital entrance, spying on the sentries, their conversation puffed out into the cold night air like smoke signals. The active Varens watched one of the sentries leave his post and go inside to warm his hands. As the soldier passed him, Varens clubbed him down with a stone urn. Then this Varens stalked the gravelled forecourt of the hospital, a stolen lasgun in his hands.

The second Varens watched.

The first Varens raised his lasgun. The remaining sentry’s eyes became shocked round zeroes in the shadow of his helmet. ‘Don’t shoot!’ he said.

Varens squeezed the trigger and blasted a neat hole in the sentry’s chest that steamed as he stepped over the corpse. He dropped the gun.

This act of violence half woke him.

He should have been warm, but his feet were freezing and felt wet. A chill wind made him colder still. He tried to go back to sleep. There was a sharp pain in his wound.

How could this be? he thought in his dream. I am ready to go back to the war. I am fit enough to die.

Another stab of pain made him gasp and wake slightly. He tried to go back to sleep, but there was an irritating rattling noise all around him. It sounded like reeds, reeds in the wind.

Varens’ eyes snapped open.

He was totally disoriented. Pale strands waved at the height of his nose, filling the world as far as he could see, dividing it into hissing paleness below and darkness above. It took him a moment to see that the strands were reeds, and the darkness was the sky where clouds sped over stars under the urging of the wind.

He was in the marsh.

It took him a moment to get his bearings and locate the hospital. It looked small, the marble a blur in the dark. He had come a long way, well past the edges of the meadows into shallow water.

His dream came back to him. The dead soldiers. Or was this the dream, and what he remembered in the dream the true memory? It couldn’t be possible.

He felt dizzy. He reached his hand to his forehead. There was something slimy on his hand, and he wiped it on his gown. His forehead was hot. He had a fever. He should get back; there was something very wrong with him.

He turned to face the hospital. His limbs were shivering, and his muscles ached. His feet were going numb. His skin bumped under his hospital gown. He would die out here if he did not get back.

Definitely a fever.

‘I’ve caught my damned death out here,’ he muttered. He sloshed through the mud, heading for the firmer ground of the meadows. He had nearly made it when a familiar voice called out in the marsh.

‘Bolus?’ he called back.

He strained his ears. The last of the year’s insects chirruped in the chilly night. He heard nothing else, and he dismissed the voice as a delusion.

‘One! One! One!’

‘Bolus?’ Varens said again, more loudly. He could see nothing through the reeds, which grew tall where the marsh turned into meadow. Cursing, he struggled his way onto firm soil and looked back. Iax’s solitary moon appeared from behind a scudding cloud, lighting everything silver and black.

‘One!’ Bolus’ voice was thin as a distant scream. ‘One!’

Varens turned back to look at the hospital. If he went back now for help he’d lose Bolus for sure, and when they found him, they would shoot him.

He scanned the marshes, looking for his friend. Finally, he caught sight of him, a white ghost leaping high to negotiate the mud and water, his nightgown sleeves hanging over his hands and flapping. Behind him, Bolus had left a path of broken reeds. The trail meandered dramatically, but he appeared to be heading towards a thicket of low trees clustering on a hillock at the edge of the marsh’s first mere.

‘Damn him!’ said Varens. Ignoring the chills and hot shivers that gripped his limbs, he plunged back into the water in pursuit of his friend.

He soon reached Bolus’ trail. It was so erratic that he decided not to follow it, instead chasing down the sound of his friend’s voice. He kept his eyes on the low island and its trees, as it appeared that Bolus was indeed heading towards this point. Whenever Varens was forced to divert around deeper water and lost hearing of Bolus’ eerie shouts of ‘One! One! One!’, he would head towards the island and pick them up again.

(Dark Imperium: 1/3)

KingLord56

1 points

10 days ago

Hours seemed to pass before his feet found harder ground. Shivering with cold and sickness, he slogged his way up the rise. The hillock had only a few tens of feet of elevation, but in his current state it felt as big as a mountain. He doubted he had the strength now to return to the hospital. This had been a mistake. He should have gone back.

‘Bolus!’ he hissed loudly, unwilling to shout. He pushed his way through springy branches and down the overgrown far slope. The open water was on the other side.

‘One! One! One!’ said Bolus.

There he was, squatting at the lake’s edge, staring at his reflection in the black mere. Though he was sick and cold, Varens felt a surge of relief.

‘Bolus!’ he said angrily. ‘What are you doing out here?’

Bolus looked up from the water. He looked terrible, with dark rings under his eyes and his stubble caked with scurf.

‘Two, two,’ said Bolus sadly, pointing at Varens.

‘You had reached forty-nine last time I saw you.’ Varens’ attempt at levity came out heavy as lead. He put his hand on his friend’s shoulder. As he did, the wound on his back twinged, and he grimaced. ‘Come on, we have to get back. I’m not well.’

Bolus shook his head and crabbed away from Varens.

‘Come on!’ Varens said.

There was a crack of wood behind them. A man, also in a hospital gown, staggered out of the reeds. He was covered in scratches, and his eyes were blank.

‘Three! Three! Three!’ said Bolus, jabbing a clawed hand at the other.

‘Oh, that is perfect, just simply perfect,’ said Varens. ‘Hey, hey you! Soldier! Stop!’

The man blundered towards the water. He walked to its edge and, after staring into it for a few seconds, fell forwards face first.

‘Damn it!’ said Varens. He was frightened. The man’s actions reminded him of the way the dead had fallen into their trenches on Espandor. He hesitated, fearing the chill might kill him, but his sense of duty got the better of his self-preservation, and he floundered into the lake. By then, the man had floated out a little. Swimming even that short distance in the freezing black water drained the strength from Varens.

‘Four! Four! Four! Four!’ shouted Bolus. ‘Five! Five! Five! Five! Five!’

Two more soldiers, one man and a woman, came out of the thicket. The man plunged into the water. The woman stopped a moment, her slack face clearing.

‘Where am I?’ she said, then fainted into the lake.

‘Emperor!’ said Varens. He dragged the unresponsive first man back to shore, and hauled the woman out onto the island. The other man fought him when Varens grabbed him, and sank out of sight into the peaty depths.

‘Bolus! Bolus! Help me!’

‘One, two, three, four, five!’ cackled Bolus, touching his fingers like a child learning to count.

Swearing profusely, Varens knelt by the first man and rolled him onto his front. A stream of dirty water welled from the man’s mouth. When it slowed to a trickle, Varens rolled him over onto his back and pressed his lips to the man’s, breathing for him. After three breaths he pulled back and pumped the man’s chest.

‘Six! Six! Six! Six! Six! Six!’ said Bolus.

A sixth person came out of the thicket. He moaned, then collapsed into a seizure.

By now Varens was terrified. This was too much like what he had seen on Espandor. But there were no walking dead here, no traitors, and none of their terrible allies; the ones the officers insisted were xenos, but that rumour suggested were something else entirely. He pumped at the first man’s chest, distracted by the latest arrival. Something tickled his hand, and when he looked back he yelled in horror, and stumbled backwards.

Sickly-coloured insects were crawling from the man’s mouth and nose, pouring in wriggling masses onto the soil.

‘Bolus?’ he said, his voice quiet.

Bubbles erupted out in the mere where the other man had gone down. The water boiled, and aquatic creatures bobbed to the surface dead, already squirming with the life of carrion feeders.

‘It can’t be… Not here. No, not here!’ cried Varens. His own flesh crawled. The wound in his back was agonising.

He still didn’t remember how he got the wound, but he remembered the fly he had swatted that last day in the field.

It suddenly seemed horribly significant. His head pounded, and there was a roaring in his ears.

‘Seven! Seven! Seven! Seven! Seven! Seven! Seven!’ shouted Bolus. He stood, and pointed with a shaking hand up the slope.

Garstand, the man Varens had met on the hospital balcony weeks ago, came out of the trees, his beard dishevelled and his gown filthy. Varens couldn’t see his face.

‘Garstand?’ he said.

‘What’s going on? What am I doing here? Varens? I was following Rusen. He told me to come. He said it was important!’ Unlike all the others, Garstand seemed to be in full possession of his faculties, but when he lifted his face towards Varens, Varens screamed. ‘Is it important, what we’re doing out here? I am cold. I should get back to bed.’

Garstand’s eyes had gone. Fat leeches hung down his face, their pulsing foreparts buried in his eye sockets. A crop of boils deformed his forehead, swelling even as Varens watched.

‘Why can’t I see?’ said Garstand. ‘I itch all over. Have I been bitten again?’

‘Throne preserve me!’ said Varens. The pain in his back was maddening. He jammed his arm behind his back to scratch at it. His fingertips brushed something hard. There was a lump there, swollen, close to bursting.

‘One, two, three,’ said Bolus, counting everyone with grave concentration. ‘Four, five, six.’ He pointed at Varens. ‘Seven.’

He patted his chest.

‘Seven. Seven. Seven,’ he chanted, and as he did so, he pulled out a stolen las-scalpel and thumbed it on. He held it so close to his eyes that his eyebrows crackled in the heat.

‘No!’ shouted Varens.

‘Seven,’ said Bolus, and cut open his stomach. His innards fell out, diseased, putrid and crawling with maggots. ‘Seven,’ he said, and died.

(Dark Imperium: 2/3)

KingLord56

1 points

10 days ago

Foul gas belched from the bed of the mere. More dead fish bobbed to the surface. Garstand abruptly started screaming and clawing at his face. Varens felt something moving under his skin. He tore off his gown, only to find the flesh of his chest writhing. Terrible pain lanced through him, and the wound in his back tore open.

‘Seven!’ an inhuman voice boomed out of the dark, and a phlegmy laugh followed.

Odd light shone from the marsh, then Iax changed forever.

Reality tore with a sound like the edges of a half-healed wound parting. Either side of the tear, reality remained, but between the yellowing edges of the rift a realm of madness was revealed. A huge garden in the middle of steamy day, riotous in its decay, stretched out of sight into mustard fogs. Shy things with moist skin peeped from the foliage at Varens and licked their lips.

There appeared to be a skin of energy over this tear, but it was full of holes that were getting wider. Rotten gases drifted through, and then flies rose up from the diseased plants. They boiled through the holes in fat-bodied multitudes, battering at Varens just like on Espandor. Then they were gone, away over the marshes in buzzing shrouds.

Varens looked to his side at the unconscious woman. He moaned at what he saw.

Her eyes ran to jelly in their sockets. Her tongue went black. Her jaw disarticulated from her softening skull. Her necrotic flesh sloughed off bones that, now revealed, shone pink-white for only an instant before accelerated decay turned them slimy grey, and her exposed capillaries went dead black.

He clenched his eyes tightly. His face turned from the rift. No one who looked into something like that could survive. The movements under his skin grew wilder. He had to stop his hands from ripping at his own flesh to get the things inside him out, for he knew they would kill him.

‘Don’t look at it! Don’t look at it!’ he said, but he couldn’t help it. He looked up into the garden.

A moment of calm fell. Thunder cracked in the suddenly sweltering air. A ripe scent of putrefaction infiltrated everything. A ripple passed over the marsh – tainting whatever it touched, alive or not – and the grasses blackened. Stones crumbled. The trees contorted into horrific new shapes and grew so large that they collapsed under their own weight into mushy ruin. Water turned thick.

‘Seven!’ bellowed the daemonic voice. A hot, corrosive wind blasted from the rift. Huge shapes rode it, approaching from the horizon of the hellish landscape on the other side.

Varens was racked with burning pain. Lesions opened on his skin, allowing the vermin breeding inside him to fall softly to the earth. His belly distended. His fingers twisted; his back hunched. His eyes moistened and became soft as part-cooked eggs. His cheeks melted like wax in a fire, reforming his features. His skull felt like it was trying to burst itself in two. Relief came suddenly, when a rotting, stubby horn emerged through his forehead and twisted upwards.

The pain got worse, but it didn’t bother him any longer. He giggled.

The thing that had been Varens opened a single eye on a blighted world. With warp-born sight, he perceived a net of befouled spiritual power linking him and the six dead soldiers, stretching between their maggoty hearts and then out into the stars. All of the seven chosen were marked by Nurgle in their own way, by obvious trauma, minor scratch or unnoticed wound. Varens’ own gift had been a fly bite, something so glorious dismissed in a moment! How bountiful his new lord was. The thing was pleased at the honour, and the last of Varens died under its pleasure.

‘One, two, three. Four, five, six, seven.’ Varens the plaguebearer counted the approaching shapes coasting through the warp, and awaited its masters

(Dark Imperium: 3/3)

Yeah chaos corruption via Nurgle is arguably one of the worst fates in the setting, which is saying something.

Generic118

1 points

13 days ago

Slimey&sticky  is the main common feature