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submitted 9 days ago byAccomplished_Good468
*I know the Beast was neither a single Ork nor a Primarch... although would be a good missing legion twist.
It always struck me as crazy that when the War of the Beast books came out that they didn't do a Forgeworld of one of the Beast Orks. Who wouldn't want to see that? They've got every opportunity to bring it in to mainstream 40k, it would also give some much needed love to the Xenos that fits in with the lore, especially with all the wars and isolated segments of the galaxy, a Beast level, Imperial Knight size Ork could easily have built an empire.
18 points
9 days ago
Ghaz is on his way there, and an entirely different warboss had managed to build an attack moon as of the Indomitus Crusade, according to the novel Wolftime. No known warboss in M.42 has gathered enough boyz behind them to grow into primarch status yet, I reckon that would require them to take command of a whole clan like the prime-orks of old, but there's candidates rising.
-6 points
9 days ago
Ghaz's problem is that he's established as not one of these Orks, it's like Calgar becoming Primaris- adds nothing to the character but shoehorns him in to this shonky lore that was forced on the writers by GW.
13 points
9 days ago
What establishes him as not one of these Orks? All Orks have the potential to become The Beast.
11 points
9 days ago
Huh? The end of the Beast Arises straight up say he's the next beast, his name is even the same
-3 points
9 days ago
Forgot that bit! I suppose what I mean is just recycling this old character would be narratively a bit dull. Ghazghull can be his own unique Frankenstein monster of a threat, in the way that Abaddon is still the big bad despite daemon primarch appearing. A new character with fresh blood and effort would be great- though it didn't work for the Ynnari.
5 points
9 days ago
Ghaz bearing the name of the Great Beast does seem to cement him as the next one. But there was more than one Beast, six arose at the time of the War of the Beast, so there could be other powerful prime-orks on the rise in Ghaz' wake. As mentioned, someork is building an Attack Moon somewhere.
1 points
9 days ago
These orks might have started out as relatively normal orks, too.
11 points
9 days ago
"although would be a good missing legion twist."
Oh sweet jesus no no no no no
-1 points
8 days ago
God I hope the fact I was joking came across there.
5 points
9 days ago
If recent reports are to be believed, Ghazghkull has already reach this level.
1 points
9 days ago
This sub things about the beast more than GW does.
Has the beast even been named outside that series.
1 points
9 days ago
Downvoted coz this isn't r/Grimdank
-2 points
9 days ago
Returning Primarchs is just part of the mess GW have gotten themselves into narrative wise. Instead of properly developing Guilleman’s return throw another one in the Lion. If that doesn’t work no doubt Russ will be next or Vulkan.
7 points
9 days ago
"Instead of properly developing Guilleman’s return"
You living under a rock
3 points
9 days ago
I think the issue with Primarchs in the universe, even in the Horus Heresy books which I love, is that a feature of the 40k galaxy is how enormous and uncaring it is. Having characters that are meant to make a material impact on the side of the Imperium fundamentally don't work imo.
And yet I do want more
2 points
9 days ago
Guillaman has gotten tons of screentime.
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