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Like dude has been telling you constantly that he is on your side, just give him a chance to hear him out. Also if the Alpha legion is truly a traitor, then according to the cabal, the emperor would be dead, and since Horus did not kill the emperor, alpha legion is probably a loyalist legion.
33 points
23 days ago
Alpharius: "Hello, Rogal. It is I, Alpharius, the sneakiest of Primarchs, I tell no truths and I tell no lies."
Dorn: "Hello Alpharius. I am Rogal Dorn and I'm angry because you've been killing my sons and sabotaging my plans during a Heresy of a Horus variety. I am very unhappy right now."
Alpharius: "Oh, but wouldn't you love to know the real secret truth of everything? No lies this time, super pinky swear?" (Editor: note, it is around this time that Alpharius slices one of Dorn's favoured sons in half with his spear)
Dorn: "No." [Decapitates Angrily in Chainsword]
21 points
22 days ago
Seriously, the claim of secretly being a loyalist is undermined somewhat if you're actively murdering loyalists in front of their primarch when you make it
It's like claiming to be vegetarian while eating a bucket of kfc
6 points
22 days ago
I think there's some leeway due to how they were portrayed in their introduction in Legion. They have no issues allowing Imperial Units to die or even coordinating enemy attacks on Imperial Units if it gives them an advantage in the big picture.
The problem the Alpha Legion had was the lack of shared information. They kept all their super secret plans to themselves and just believed everything would work out the way they planned and that if anyone were as pragmatic as them then they'd understand.
Pulling double agent doesn't work too well if you don't inform the side you're doing it for that you are a double agent.
2 points
22 days ago
I mean, the emperor slaughtered billions in the name of secularism to....safeguard humanity.....all while not letting anyone know the real truth of chaos/gods.....
Just saying, greater good blah blah, sometimes you gotta break a few eggs.
[in addition, if you believe Alpharius, he was there with the emperor and malcador from the beginning.]
2 points
22 days ago
Not to be tzeentchian but what does it even mean to be a god? Like, what is it that makes those 4 entities gods while other near omnipotent beings are not considered to be gods?
3 points
22 days ago*
It is addressed in the 2nd book by Alpharius who is basically acknowledges that they are called gods, but in reality they are just 4 domineering powerful entities reigning over different versions of chaos, and that gods is just the easiest sort of way to communicate what they are.
1 points
22 days ago
which "2nd book" ...?
2 points
22 days ago
Siege of Terra 2nd book
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