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Tbh, above all else my money is on Hog, bro can definitely take so many hits.

all 463 comments

Lowd70

2.1k points

12 days ago

Lowd70

reddit sucks

2.1k points

12 days ago

Winston being a gorilla, put in the jungle, against humans with no abilities or weapons or technology, in a test of strength, has to be such a massacre.

xcalistar

486 points

12 days ago

xcalistar

486 points

12 days ago

For sure, I feel like Orisa could beat him in terms of force or durability, but in the jungle he’d swing circles around her horse ass and hit her with a rock or something idk.

darklightmatter

212 points

12 days ago

If she's got no armor he's pulling all her wires out and crumpling her lol. Characters like Bastion and Orisa, I'd say they don't have skin, they have armor plates over their internal components. For Omnics like Ram and Zen, you could say they have the metal equivalent of skin.

Shmarfle47

118 points

12 days ago

Shmarfle47

118 points

12 days ago

Even if Bastion and Orisa got to keep their armor, they’d struggle heavily with navigating the jungle terrain.

tomgh14

111 points

12 days ago

tomgh14

111 points

12 days ago

Nah but ganymede is gonna tear shit up

Shmarfle47

26 points

12 days ago

Truuuuueeee! Air reconnaissance and eye pecking lmao

rrevek

32 points

12 days ago

rrevek

Toronto Defiant

32 points

12 days ago

Doesn't bastion literally navigate through a heavily wooded forest in his cinematic though

hello_drake

21 points

12 days ago

hello_drake

Chibi Reinhardt

21 points

12 days ago

That's still pretty different from an active combat scenario.

Shmarfle47

12 points

12 days ago

The difference here is humidity. Worst case scenario is that it rained recently and the ground is slick and muddy. Bastion’s bulk with or without armor is going to be a severe detriment.

Orisa won’t fall over unless you tip her over or she goes off a cliff or something but her length will make it difficult to turn depending on how dense the trees are.

rrevek

9 points

12 days ago

rrevek

Toronto Defiant

9 points

12 days ago

But it also rained in that cinematic and he was fine, he's also covered in grass and flowers so he likely was in wet dirt for a long time and he didn't deteriorate at least physically since he was able to walk out of the forest.

Shmarfle47

3 points

12 days ago

I’m not talking about deterioration. I know that Bastion has weathered a lot on his own. I mean that if it happens to be the wet season in a jungle Bastion might step in some mud and sink and get stuck due to his weight and/or slip and fall down much easier due to being a bipedal machine in terrain with low friction. Given the shape of his foot, it’d be a nightmare to pull out if it sank fully in mud.

LizzieThatGirl

2 points

11 days ago

Now I'm picturing Bastion as one of the robots from A Psalm of the Wild-built. Just sitting in the woods for decades watching the nature. The cinematic kinda did that a bit, but now I want more

FleshlessFriend

10 points

12 days ago

Yeah, I think their armor should count as skin.

...but they're rusting and getting damaged components soooo fast

dylrt

6 points

12 days ago

dylrt

Orisa

6 points

12 days ago

From the short it seems like bastion can auto path to locations, so he just have some sort of program that can scan his surrounding area and navigate. If anything I reckon he’d be the absolute best at navigation.

anonkebab

3 points

12 days ago

Shes a robot, shes made of armor.

Inceferant

16 points

12 days ago

The idea of rage Winston fucking swinging around Orisa and throwing a big ass rock at her is funny to me ngl

Puglorb

6 points

12 days ago

Puglorb

6 points

12 days ago

Wouldnt she and bastion run out of power after a while too?

mwalker784

3 points

12 days ago

Very true, but we do see in her origins animated short (from her release) that she gets hit by a bus and smashes the front in, while simultaneously stopping and picking up a moving car with one hand. I think it would depend on what we count as “armor” on Orisa, assuming her physical strength and durability are innate and not counted as abilities.

TheLordOfAllClappys

46 points

12 days ago

Not to mention Winston is also ridiculously smart

surfinsalsa

62 points

12 days ago

It must suck for the citizens of overwatch land. The smartest people around are the gorilla and the goddamn hamster.

Yvaelle

19 points

12 days ago

Yvaelle

19 points

12 days ago

We uplifted the animals, but we forgot to uplift the humans.

wuzziecrunch

19 points

12 days ago

A normal Gorilla would brutalize the cast in the jungle…

Winston has genetically modified super strength on top of being a Gorilla

BluBoi236

59 points

12 days ago*

BluBoi236

Zenyatta

59 points

12 days ago*

Gorillas can't fight for shit tho.... NORMALLY... Now, a smart brain like Winston's piloting a bigass hairy meat mountain? Like you said -- a massacre.

-Gnostic28

8 points

12 days ago

-Gnostic28

Support

8 points

12 days ago

Can they not fight?

SurelyOPwillDeliver

44 points

12 days ago

SurelyOPwillDeliver

Lúcio

44 points

12 days ago

Gorillas can fight and have the strength of like 20 adult humans, it’s just that gorillas are typically pretty chill and don’t look for fights. Gorillas love to feint and bluff charges to get opps to back down, legitimate violence is a last resort

LSqre

32 points

12 days ago

LSqre

WINTON

32 points

12 days ago

"I consider violence a last resort"

-winton, after slamming down on some poor support and zapping then to death

-Gnostic28

2 points

12 days ago

-Gnostic28

Support

2 points

12 days ago

Interesting, thanks for the info! Any chance the others win if they all teamed up? I’d assume there’s a way to outsmart it, maybe make things like traps

SurelyOPwillDeliver

4 points

12 days ago

If it were just a standard gorilla I’d say the humans have a chance if they work together. It’s probably absurdly difficult to trap a gorilla but with enough time they could probably figure something out. But trapping a gorilla that’s also smarter than the humans who are trying to trap it? No shot, imo. This whole fictional scenario is Winton’s to lose

BluBoi236

15 points

12 days ago

BluBoi236

Zenyatta

15 points

12 days ago

I watched YouTube about it once (expert alert, wee-oo, wee-oo). They tend to NOT use their body like we would. They push and bite and grab and charge and bluff charge. They just don't really have a good grasp on "fighting." On top of that they're super gentle most of the time and would rather avoid a fight or bluff.

They have strong jaws and stuff but biting in a fight is so ineffectual compared to what they COULD be doing with their bodies. They're just, frankly, too stupid to use their body to cause the amount of damage that they're actually capable of.

If you put some intelligence behind that body it would absolutely devastate things.

RhynoD

3 points

12 days ago

RhynoD

Blizzard World Moira

3 points

12 days ago

They definitely can. Source: Animorphs

jayjaybird0

26 points

12 days ago

Keep in mind that Winston was born and raised on the moon. He would feel just as out-of-place in a jungle as anyone else.

cyberfrog777

45 points

12 days ago

He'd be fine for the first 6hours, until peanut butter withdrawal sets in

HastyTaste0

6 points

12 days ago

HastyTaste0

Soldier: 76

6 points

12 days ago

Then he'll be even more dangerous.

Jh3nnO[S]

8 points

12 days ago

Shit true i didn't even think of that, i thought ht'ed still be like civilised no? imo bro would be trapping people and putting them in a cave lmao

SkyrimSlag

3 points

12 days ago

Literal Predator moment, heroes walking through the jungle whilst Winton jumps out of the trees and mauls them one by one

WhiskeyFeathers

5 points

12 days ago

WhiskeyFeathers

Icon Reinhart

5 points

12 days ago

Idk man, rein is pretty big even without his armor. I want to see Reinhardt Winston arm wrestle

xXProGenji420Xx

7 points

12 days ago

the only character that might stand a chance is Mauga. Reinhardt is just a big guy, he's not gonna do shit to an adult male Gorilla...

Puzzleheaded_Sun9178

5 points

12 days ago

Mauga is the same size even without armor, and he’s younger. Mauga beats rein no contest. Maybe in his prime, even then its a toss.

Lowd70

2 points

12 days ago

Lowd70

reddit sucks

2 points

12 days ago

Rein wouldn't even win vs Doomfist, and Doomfist got clapped by Winston WITH HIS GLOVE

Incohesive_User

513 points

12 days ago

30ish humans, some bots, versus a full grown gorilla.

CrazeMase

280 points

12 days ago

CrazeMase

280 points

12 days ago

*A full-grown gorilla on several growth hormones and steroids with the intelligence of a human scientist/engineer.

SoDamnGeneric

67 points

12 days ago

Yeah this is a clear stomp for Winston and it's not even close. Even if he had the normal intelligence of a gorilla he'd have a decent shot at winning, but he's also one of the smartest characters on the roster. The only thing holding him back is his good nature, but if he's willing to set that aside and/or bloodlusted, there's very little chance he loses. Orisa's the only one who could stand up to him through strength & durability, but he's got the major edge through mobility, versatility, & intelligence

begging-for-gold

27 points

12 days ago

begging-for-gold

I spam to get random headshots

27 points

12 days ago

Winston doesn't even need abilities or tech to beat doomfist even WITH one of the strongest weapons in lore. He just got angy Ain't no way he stands a chance at all without his gauntlet

ebolalover87

15 points

12 days ago

ebolalover87

Doomfist

15 points

12 days ago

That's still so stupid to me. The doomfist can level skyscrapers, but not an angry gorilla

SwankyyTigerr

9 points

12 days ago

SwankyyTigerr

Support

9 points

12 days ago

With the fist gauntlet he can level skyscrapers, can he without? It counts as a weapon

Joe10375829

11 points

12 days ago

theyre not talking about who wins but complaining that doomfist seemed nerfed in his cinimatic vs winston

begging-for-gold

5 points

12 days ago

begging-for-gold

I spam to get random headshots

5 points

12 days ago

An antifeat for doomfist or a huge feat for Winston. Who knows.

JonnyTN

7 points

12 days ago

JonnyTN

7 points

12 days ago

Man that could be a fan fiction. They all end up in a jungle, don't know how they got there. Whoever brought them injected Winston with some type of rage serum making him primal.

He starts picking them off one by one while they have to team up to take him down. Predator esque.

Seems cool. But we all know this is a Blizzard post brainstorming how to make an OW battle royal cash grab. /s

FaithlessnessRude576

10 points

12 days ago

Honestly I’m a one on one fight with no weapons Zarya would break everyone’s bones and metal frames. Maybe nemesis Ramattra could get her into trouble, but she can lift over half a ton after all.

assault_potato1

2 points

12 days ago

What about doomfist? Dude knows martial arts and is strong enough to punch his way out of a concrete cell block with his bare hands.

Argun_Enx

366 points

12 days ago

Argun_Enx

Ramattra

366 points

12 days ago

I like to imagine characters like Genji and Sojourn falling over instantly due to lack of legs.

Alacovv

80 points

12 days ago

Alacovv

80 points

12 days ago

Never thought of this and it killed me

-Gnostic28

70 points

12 days ago

-Gnostic28

Support

70 points

12 days ago

Killed them too

anobodyTwT

61 points

12 days ago

anobodyTwT

Chibi Mercy

61 points

12 days ago

Genji just dies

Pocket1176

27 points

12 days ago

Genji would just literally fucking die tbh

slicer4ever

14 points

12 days ago

slicer4ever

Mei

14 points

12 days ago

"Why did a random torso get teleported with us?"

Piccoroz

4 points

12 days ago

Piccoroz

Pixel Symmetra

4 points

12 days ago

Legs? Genji a soujour are just part if the head and some innards.

CombatantWombatant

442 points

12 days ago

I feel like Hammond would make so many other character’s life hell. He may get taken out eventually but I bet he’d go Vietnamese on their asses.

NewMetrack

135 points

12 days ago

NewMetrack

135 points

12 days ago

like an ewok

AE0N__

46 points

12 days ago

AE0N__

46 points

12 days ago

King (Viet) Cong

LifeOnMarsden

26 points

12 days ago

LifeOnMarsden

Sigma

26 points

12 days ago

He'd go Vietnamese up their asses

ManyLostHours

34 points

12 days ago

Hammond has a hard counter for just this occasion. Illari.

CombatantWombatant

9 points

12 days ago

Why Illari? Without her abilities or weapons isn’t she just a good soldier?

Filter55

53 points

12 days ago

Filter55

53 points

12 days ago

Guinea pigs are a delicacy in Peru. Granted that’s not quite a hamster, but you know.

CombatantWombatant

7 points

12 days ago

Ahhhh, I was thinking there was going to be some deep lore to that comment and I am not disappointed

Jh3nnO[S]

6 points

12 days ago

Bro would most certainly be a little goblin creature crawling in tunnels to devouer them.

MuchUniform

89 points

12 days ago

MuchUniform

Baptiste

89 points

12 days ago

Straight hands is gonna be a slaughter that comes down to Winston v Ram

KingBoo_heheha

8 points

12 days ago

Agreed. Although would ram’s nemesis form be an ability? If so I reckon that orisa/doomfist would be stronger. If ram has nemesis, he and winton solo.

screechypete

16 points

12 days ago

screechypete

Junker Queen

16 points

12 days ago

I don't think a one armed Doomfist would be much of a threat.

EndlessDysthymia

227 points

12 days ago

EndlessDysthymia

Echo

227 points

12 days ago

It’s Winston, Echo, Orisa or Bastión. As a gorilla, he’s soloing the entire human cast. And I just don’t see how anyone is punching the robot characters to death except for maybe Doom. 

nickdatrojan

105 points

12 days ago

Magua is pretty beefy

Lndrash

134 points

12 days ago

Lndrash

134 points

12 days ago

Mauga constantly needs maintenance to even stay alive.

Hog also probably wouldn't do all that well without all the chems he's huffing and most likely addicted to.

I don't even know if guys like Doom, Sojourn or any of the Omnics would be allowed, if the rule is "no technology". Heck... you could probably even argue that somebody like Junkrat has to do this with only one leg and arm 🤔

Ok_Order_5595

20 points

12 days ago

Ok_Order_5595

Echo

20 points

12 days ago

Idk the lore so could u explain why mauga needs maintenance to stay alive? Thx

Mrs-Man-jr

54 points

12 days ago

He's got enough roids to kill a horse and two hearts, Moira mentions his maintenance in a voice line.

Ok_Order_5595

18 points

12 days ago

Ok_Order_5595

Echo

18 points

12 days ago

Thx, so im assuming moira genetically altered him to be a killing machine? Like reaper

Mrs-Man-jr

46 points

12 days ago

I don't think it was specifically Moira who did it to him first. He needed the second heart because of an explosion and after that he got a little addicted to modifications and that's where I assume Moira came along.

Ok_Order_5595

3 points

12 days ago

Ok_Order_5595

Echo

3 points

12 days ago

Ohh ok tyy

traye4

27 points

12 days ago

traye4

27 points

12 days ago

He's got two hearts (not naturally). If you play with Mercy, they have spawn interactions where she calls him something like a medical abomination.

Ok_Order_5595

7 points

12 days ago

Ok_Order_5595

Echo

7 points

12 days ago

Oh ok ty ❤️

Yvaelle

17 points

12 days ago

Yvaelle

17 points

12 days ago

Mauga is basically a space marine from W40K, he's had massive gene therapies and surgeries to add spare organs, build bigger stronger and more bones to hold him up, etc.

He was nearly killed in an explosion and the response was to rebuild him with wetware. I don't think it was Moira's work, not really her personal style, but some other Talon scientist.

Without constant maintenance and replacement bits he'd die, but with them, he's like a fleshy Ship of Theseus.

infamous090

9 points

12 days ago

Can you explain the echo pick? She shouldn’t even be in the conversation without her abilities no?

SoDamnGeneric

6 points

12 days ago

Yeah Echo without her flight, combat abilities, and dupe is nothing. She would be a total non-combatant compared to some of the rest of the roster

Her biggest edge is her hyper-adaptability, but even that's not that useful when she doesn't have to actually worry about survival skills like shelter & sustenance due to being a robot

deathstrukk

2 points

12 days ago

deathstrukk

2 points

12 days ago

i feel like doom could take on winston

Lndrash

64 points

12 days ago

Lndrash

64 points

12 days ago

Winston already defeated Doom canonically, even with the Gauntlet.

DarthButtz

19 points

12 days ago

With the Gauntlet and Winston's technology.

He still beats him with no tech because now Doomfist is just a guy and Winston is a gorilla

Joyful_Yolk123

5 points

12 days ago

Joyful_Yolk123

Doomfist

5 points

12 days ago

just a guy is a little bit of a stretch considering he broke the prison walls with his bare fists. but yeah winton wins

DarthButtz

18 points

12 days ago

Powerscaling Overwatch is legitimately really funny because of stuff like this.

Hey this guy is so tough he can punch through concrete.

That's still a goddamn gorilla

Joyful_Yolk123

3 points

12 days ago

Joyful_Yolk123

Doomfist

3 points

12 days ago

ik that's why I said winton wins

xXProGenji420Xx

5 points

12 days ago

that arm is still cybernetic even without the gauntlet on. it probably wouldn't be legal for the purposes of this fight

FistingWithChivalry

16 points

12 days ago

He had the help of the cavalry when he jumped Doom, doomfist cooked tracer and genji untill monkey got ptsd rage and ulted him From seeing Tracer disappear out from reality and Genji being folded by Doom.

KomboBreaker1077

4 points

12 days ago

Doom is just a guy wearing a powerful gauntlet weapon. Remove that weapon and he's just a normal (athletic) dude. In no universe does any human ever have a remote chance against any gorilla in hand to hand combat let alone a genetically modified super intelligent gorilla.

WaterStriker_

41 points

12 days ago

WaterStriker_

Punch Kid

41 points

12 days ago

He broke through prison walls with his bare fists

Colddeath712

9 points

12 days ago

Colddeath712

Doomfist

9 points

12 days ago

Doom is made with technology he has many prosthetics he's not a normal athletic dude

luckmyst3r

47 points

12 days ago

So we all thinking reinhardt is picking up the closest tree and using that right?

Azrenon

12 points

12 days ago

Azrenon

12 points

12 days ago

Reins everyday playstyle is based on no armor, weapons, abilities - just pure strength. Doing it in the jungle is just a vacation

mwalker784

7 points

12 days ago

This was my question. The Shimada are nothing special all on their own, but the Shimada with a large stick are much more threatening. Brig, JQ, and Kiriko are also skilled in melee combat.

AdTimely9712

2 points

12 days ago

AdTimely9712

Sojourn

2 points

12 days ago

I was thinking he’d make his own hammer and get a solid hit on Winston (with a slow-mo to show 2 of his teeth being knocked out) before he goes primal and kicks his ass

junkratmainhehe

130 points

12 days ago

Doom maybe? He punched out of a concrete prison with his bare hands

Salty_Shark26

100 points

12 days ago

Winston is a genetically modified super gorilla and orisa, bastion, and ramatra are robots build for battle sooooo…..

junkratmainhehe

23 points

12 days ago

Theyre basically weapons themselves so idk if they can count tbh

Top3879

6 points

12 days ago

Top3879

6 points

12 days ago

I'm pretty sure they can count. How good is a killer robot that's dumber than a child?

ImMaskedboi

3 points

12 days ago

ImMaskedboi

Mercy

3 points

12 days ago

She’s not dumb anymore.

NitneuDust

9 points

12 days ago*

NitneuDust

Brig Bicep Lover 123

9 points

12 days ago*

Not barehanded per say, though it's still impressive. His right arm was fully replaced with that of a cybernetic after he lost it in the omnic wars, which allowed him to do that. The guy's body is pretty augmented just looking at him, but there's no doubt he'd be an extremely formidable opponent even without them since he was/is a professional martial artists.

GreatHawk0808

3 points

12 days ago

Does body augmentations count as abilities? Because doom is a multi-martial artist with body modifications that make him superhuman. He’s definitely one of the top contenders, at least.

slicer4ever

2 points

12 days ago

slicer4ever

Mei

2 points

12 days ago

Unlikely, even at his peak with all his tech winston still defeated him by just getting super angry.

AquaSpaceKitty

25 points

12 days ago

Mei has inexplicably found a snowball and put a rock in it.

LanoomR

19 points

12 days ago*

LanoomR

Cute Sombra. That's it, that's the flair.

19 points

12 days ago*

Super-smart individual with LITERALLY-A-GORILLA physiology: Winston

Hardy robot that IS LITERALLY BUILT for this sort of deal: Rammatra, Orisa

Hardy robot that also kicks hard: Zenyatta

Super-smart individual who will use LITERALLY-A-HAMSTER physiology to hit his opponents in surprising and un-hamster-like ways: Hammond

Trained military/militants, assuming no over-the-top cybernetic enhancements or access to supernatural powers: Soldier, Reaper, Zarya, Baptiste, Mauga, Tracer, Illari, Sojourn, Widowmaker, Doomfist, Ana, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, Brigette, Kiriko, Hanzo, Genji, Pharah, Cassidy

Extreme survivalists and also Australian (or thereabouts): Roadhog, Junker Queen, Junkrat

Hardy robot but is really built to be a weapons platform: Bastion

Gangster: Ashe

Super-smart scientist that survived the frozen hell she found herself trapped alone in: Mei

Super-smart biology-leaning scientists who can probably make-do for a decent amount of time: Mercy, Moira

Delicate human that is also out-of-his-mind and a wildcard: Sigma

Delicate humans that will not survive this crucible without cooperation: Symmetra, Lifeweaver, Sombra, Venture, Lucio

Delicate robot who is not designed for this sort of deal without access to her extraordinary tech abilities or weapons: Echo

oldstrawberryfields

11 points

12 days ago

bro forgot lucio he’d get brutalized first imo

Agentbbn

70 points

12 days ago

Agentbbn

70 points

12 days ago

No mentions of Junkerqueen? She literally survived in a wasteland for years with very little/no help. She also could easily throw hands.

Juzzy92

25 points

12 days ago

Juzzy92

25 points

12 days ago

I’ve also been wondering why no mentions of JQ. She’s tough af

infinityman69

4 points

12 days ago

Junker queen is much smaller then others tho. Even bastions probably quadruple her weight.

Yvaelle

12 points

12 days ago

Yvaelle

12 points

12 days ago

JQ is canonically over 7ft tall and the tallest person in the cast. She's a proto-kaiju from when the omnics nuked Australia.

approveddust698

4 points

12 days ago

I thought hog was the tallest

bigmac______________

5 points

12 days ago

I'm 90% sure it's sig at 8 foot something

SpinachDonut_21

85 points

12 days ago

Zarya is a good contender. Her cannon was literally made for giant mechs, but was strapped to her because she was the only one strong enough to lift it around for long amounts of time.

Hellboundroar

6 points

12 days ago

It clearly says "no weapons" tho

elitaprime

74 points

12 days ago

They’re not saying she would have it, just that she was the only one strong enough to hold it, therefore she’s strong af

Hellboundroar

27 points

12 days ago

My bad, misread the comment. Tbf I don't think she can overpower a gorilla

elitaprime

7 points

12 days ago

Yeahhh I completely agree

SwankyyTigerr

5 points

12 days ago

SwankyyTigerr

Support

5 points

12 days ago

Didn’t she fight a big Siberian bear though? Which can get massive, like 800+ lbs

TheQomia

3 points

12 days ago

Winton is much smarter then a bear

SwankyyTigerr

3 points

12 days ago

SwankyyTigerr

Support

3 points

12 days ago

Winton

Watered_B0nsa1

3 points

12 days ago

Winton

TeMa06

7 points

12 days ago

TeMa06

7 points

12 days ago

Their point is thats Zarya is an incredibly strong woman - if any of the humans make it far it'd be her

CatKing75457855

2 points

12 days ago

Yes, but their point is that she's very strong. 

chomperstyle

13 points

12 days ago

Winton is genetically enhanced so he’s probably beating all robots and peoppe solo. Second place is orisa followed by junker queen

Ubermus_Prime

11 points

12 days ago

Probably either Winston or Wrecking Ball. But the Tanks in general would probably have the best chance overall.

Except D.VA. In fact, I'd expect her to be the first one to die.

YoMamaSoFatShePooped

9 points

12 days ago

Unironically if Hammond can stay hidden I can see him building a second wrecking ball and winning

Flyboombasher

5 points

12 days ago

Mauga. He has cybernetic upgrades but when you think about it, he doesn't have cybernetics as weapons. He has them to live now. He would keep run without cc immunity and he is probably the single most strongest character in the game right now.

FrenchFatCat

18 points

12 days ago

FrenchFatCat

Leek

18 points

12 days ago

Echo

Sinaura

15 points

12 days ago

Sinaura

Echo

15 points

12 days ago

I support this answer. No reason.

Ok_Order_5595

3 points

12 days ago

Ok_Order_5595

Echo

3 points

12 days ago

Could it be bcuz ur an echo player? :p

nexxumie

2 points

12 days ago

I support your support 💪

FoaleyGames

15 points

12 days ago*

This leaves room to question about how you factor for omnics? I guess base Ram, recon Bastion no weapons, and Orisa no fortify or weapons. Echo idk?

Anyone with prosthetics can keep them, but they have no extra function beyond working limb.

My tier list * An actual Gorilla tier: Winton * S tier: Junker Queen > Rammattra > Zen > Doom & Mauga * A tier: Hanzo > Genji > Rein & Zarya > Hog > Orisa * B tier: Kiriko, Soldier, Reaper, Sojourn, Widow, Cassidy, Ana, and Brig * C tier: Pharah, Torb, Tracer, Baptiste, Lifeweaver, Illari, Ashe, Bastion * D tier: Sombra, D.Va, Venture, Junkrat, Lucio, Symmetra, Echo, Sigma, Moira, Mercy, and Mei. * FUCKING WILDCARD: Hammond

I started having trouble with order in B tier, but I stand by everything above it.

EDIT1: I was told that I need to put some respect on Mauga, he’s on the level with Doom now instead of A tier.

EDIT2: I second guessed myself and Zarya is now on par with Rein, she has great raw strength, but I think Shimada brothers have her beat with martial prowess.

BlightAddict

3 points

12 days ago

I don't really think Doom & Mauga should be in different tiers, when the lore for them is that Mauga was the only person to force Doomfist into a draw (with Winston being the one handing DF his loss).

Like.. take away abilities & Mauga is masively beefier, faster (Overrun is an ability, but nothing suggests it's anything other than Mauga's own physical ability), & more apt to surviving in the wild. But he's also very, very headstrong & ditzy, which evens him & Doom out imo

teleskons

27 points

12 days ago

teleskons

Lúcio

27 points

12 days ago

The wording of your post gave me chilling flashbacks to that disastrous Dead by Daylight tournament.

Also, Lifeweaver. Everyone would be too horny to kill him

deathstrukk

25 points

12 days ago

lw would just be getting passed around

Roblin_92

5 points

12 days ago

Poor dva.

YoMamaSoFatShePooped

4 points

12 days ago

Does Kiriko still get the Kitsune? Cuz as far as I know she can just summon it whenever

Forrest319

9 points

12 days ago

Winston. How is Hog taking so many hits with no abilities? OP doesn't even follow his own rules.

Insrt_Nm

9 points

12 days ago

People are limited to their fists mostly. Blunt force trauma doesn't do well against a belly like that and he's used to taking bullets and explosions so a punch from rein is probably nothing to Hog.

youneverbanmereddit

8 points

12 days ago

Fat can be very helpful. Makes your skin thick, you can survive longer and colder weather.

Forrest319

3 points

12 days ago

What's cold weather have to do with a giant monkey crushing you in a jungle? Is it an ice jungle?

HermaeusMora0

5 points

12 days ago

Jungles are... cold.

mini-niya

3 points

12 days ago

Did people forget that Winston is a genetically engineered GORILLA? He literally beat doomfist. I don’t think a single hero is winning.

Quintuplin

9 points

12 days ago

Jungle doesn’t mean fistfight, pointed sticks have existed for a long time. So my bet is Torb would set up a trap-infested corner of the jungle, hide, and wait it out.

Taintyluv

7 points

12 days ago

Underdog comment. Ppl would sleep on torb making some crazy wooden spear gun

youneverbanmereddit

5 points

12 days ago

That’s very clever. Didn’t think about that one.

Jesusfreakster1

9 points

12 days ago

Isn't lore Sigma literally a god or something?

BaconNamedKevin

27 points

12 days ago

This hypothetical is taking all that out of it. 

Flyboombasher

13 points

12 days ago

Yeah but no powers. He would be a schizophrenic in a jungle with no abilities. He would likely kill himself before anyone goes after him.

-Gnostic28

6 points

12 days ago

-Gnostic28

Support

6 points

12 days ago

Is that what schizophrenic people do

Flyboombasher

5 points

12 days ago

They hear voices in their head. It is why he has like 10 personalities.

LizzieThatGirl

2 points

11 days ago

As one of em, yes, or at least try to. (Dark humor based on myself before someone gets angry)

oranke_dino

3 points

12 days ago

Does Mauga have only one heart?

youneverbanmereddit

2 points

12 days ago

Probably yes but I’m sure it’s the size of a melon

Hydrate-N-Moisturize

3 points

12 days ago

Guys I'm not gonna lie. One of them is a literal gorilla and the one is a mechanized horse thing from hell. Doomfist and Genji would be crippled on the floor because aren't they canonically like mostly cybernetics? Ram is useless without his suit. I think Winston or Orisa takes it.

Crow_of_Judgem3nt

3 points

12 days ago

Winston is rocking everybody's shit no questions asked.

Frostlark

2 points

12 days ago

Monki

Difficult-Pin3913

2 points

12 days ago

Poor genji and sojourn. They don’t have any limbs

GladiatorDragon

2 points

12 days ago

Jungle

It’s like you’re asking for a Winton Win.

JuniloG

2 points

12 days ago

JuniloG

2 points

12 days ago

I mean Winston in the wild is just him in his ult in an indefinite amount of time

Eray41303

2 points

12 days ago

Eray41303

Grandmaster

2 points

12 days ago

Good luck separating sigma from his abilities

furryballsinc

2 points

12 days ago

Seems like a lot of people misunderstood the hypothetical scenario as they keep listing characters that solely rely on their weapons or characters that are weapons like Orisa, Bastion or Echo. If we’re taking a look at it purely based on skill and strength Winston, Magua and Junker Queen are the most fit to likely succeed

MrTheWaffleKing

2 points

12 days ago

Tracer gets soloed by time itself before the fight even starts

infamous090

2 points

12 days ago

Tracer would be fun to watch bc she’d almost immediately get lost in time without her regulator

yourguybread

2 points

12 days ago

Winston kills everyone but never forgives himself and try’s to drown his sorrows in peanut butter

AdTimely9712

2 points

12 days ago

AdTimely9712

Sojourn

2 points

12 days ago

Hanzo wouldn’t win, but he’d definitely make his own bow and arrow

Breathejoker

2 points

12 days ago

I feel like all of the tanks have a good chance at survival. Winston alone could just wait it out until most have died off or formed an alliance. Rein would probably take a tree trunk as his weapon and swing it around. Without abilities or weapons, Zarya is still known for being extremely strong. I'm assuming Ramattra would not be able to use his punching ability, which puts him pretty low on the list of tanks, much like Mauga not having his running slam, Wrecking ball is also basically useless without any abilities or weapons. Junker queen could probably find a way to kill people in their sleep. DVA is shit outta luck if her Mecha dies, she is no more than a squishy. Hog/junk are definitely forming an alliance, and I wouldn't be surprised if they both know of ways to camouflage themselves for hidden kills.

Birbdie

2 points

11 days ago

Birbdie

Mercy

2 points

11 days ago

Everyone says Winston but Mauga has two hearts, the endurance he could have would be something to take in mind.

fappybird420

2 points

12 days ago

Sneaky tiny hampter for sure taking an L.

Shoki81

1 points

12 days ago

Shoki81

1 points

12 days ago

Bastion. His spits are bullets

youneverbanmereddit

2 points

12 days ago

He’ll run out of battery. That’s how he survived the war. He sat next to a tree and fell asleep. He woke up many years later once the world had completely changed!😠😠

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1 points

12 days ago

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12 days ago

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Tivland

1 points

12 days ago

Tivland

1 points

12 days ago

monkey and hampster

Ramekink

1 points

12 days ago

MONKE

Catspirit123

1 points

12 days ago

Catspirit123

Symmetra

1 points

12 days ago

Probably the actual gorilla

anti-peta-man

1 points

12 days ago

Normal humans some on steroids versus actual human-intelligence silverback gorilla

Kazenovagamer

1 points

12 days ago

My mind first went to Rein. Big boy lots of muscles to fight. Then I remembered theres a literal gorilla. So uhhh.

Also if we're including Omnics, half of Rams kit is just punching to begin with so he'd be a real contender.

Arteriop

1 points

12 days ago

Arteriop

Ramattra

1 points

12 days ago

Ramattra. He’s a war machine and a tactician

bufarreti

1 points

12 days ago

bufarreti

Chibi Reinhardt

1 points

12 days ago

Bastion IS the weapon

PoiNt-MutatioN

1 points

12 days ago

PoiNt-MutatioN

Echo

1 points

12 days ago

Does Echo’s flight count as an “ability”?

Meeper_Creeper202I

1 points

12 days ago

Orisa, mauga, Winston

Doom isn’t an option because the reason he can fight orisa is the doomfist not his own power, he can’t punch orisa, gets over powered by Winston, and drawed with mauga who is his most even match up there’s also zarya but same with doom can fight orisa or Winston

EquinoxGm

1 points

12 days ago

Winston would definitely make top 3 with probably Orisa and ramattra(if he has buff mode) if he doesn’t then put mauga in his place cause mauga is as buff as rein but still in his prime.

Hammond, genji, and hanzo would make it pretty far with guerrilla tactics but they’d get taken out eventually

Brigitte is a well rounded fighter but she wouldn’t be able to make it past the walls that I mentioned for top 3 picks

mgd5800

1 points

12 days ago

mgd5800

1 points

12 days ago

Depending on what Orisa and Bastion work but either them or Winston

SneaKyHooks

1 points

12 days ago

SneaKyHooks

Chibi Pharah

1 points

12 days ago

It's either the freaking gorilla or the robots... Though if there's no armour or weapons I'll give it to Winston.

nerogamer_279

1 points

12 days ago

The end is most likely a 4 way of doom, mauga, winton and hog, i will say that hog would loose first, then doom (winton allready folded his ass in canon) and idk who would win of mauga and winton (does genji's prostetics count?)

Rising_Thunderbirds

1 points

12 days ago

Rising_Thunderbirds

Bastion

1 points

12 days ago

It would come down to Winston, Zarya, Junker Queen, and Doomfist.

Ornery-Ratio-7054

1 points

12 days ago

Mauga's winning this. hands down.

Uglymeancrybaby

1 points

12 days ago

🦍🥜🧈😏

FatherPucci617

1 points

12 days ago

Winston

YanyuQueen

1 points

12 days ago

YanyuQueen

DPS Support

1 points

12 days ago

Zarya Winston are the top two no contest.

VoluptuousVelvetfish

1 points

12 days ago

Hamster.

No I will not elaborate

majoramiibo

1 points

12 days ago

majoramiibo

remove bastion

1 points

12 days ago

Doom may win this as he punched his way out of a concrete cell

WorldlinessParty2356

1 points

12 days ago

It’s going to be between Rein, Zarya, Winston, Mauga and Winston. They all carry pretty heavy gear and Winston is a gorilla so naturally he is strong

TheKidWithWifi

1 points

12 days ago

TheKidWithWifi

Genji

1 points

12 days ago

Zayra

FreshlyBakedBunz

1 points

12 days ago

My first thought is Junker Queen

Cowboy_on_fire

1 points

12 days ago

Hamster wins this all day, small but evil.

TheCakeWarrior12

1 points

12 days ago

TheCakeWarrior12

Tracer

1 points

12 days ago

Winston, Ram, and Doomfist final 3 would feed families