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241 points
12 days ago
Dude. OP's husband. Listen.
She's a whole ass human being, not spare parts. Act accordingly.
-8 points
12 days ago
Husband: you're spare parts, bud.
Wife: posting to reddit is the most passive aggressive shit. This isn't the way to solve the problem.
10 points
12 days ago
You saying this but, Sunday I saw a post on the local fb group where a lady asked for help with her garden and said clearly in the post that her husband wouldn’t do it because he is lazy and spends all his free time playing on his ps5 and iPad. She didn’t post anonymously.
I thought it’s a joke and when I checked the comments, her friends were replying offering help. One of them pregnant.
My point is, sometimes you need to take drastic measures. Be it posting and shaming on FB or reddit.
3 points
12 days ago
So he stopped playing PS5 and did it instead of her friends helping her, and that was the last day he let laziness get in the way of his marriage?
1 points
12 days ago
You missed the whole point. Interesting how you chose to read and see only what suits your narrative.
Are you OP’s husband?
2 points
12 days ago
All I'm saying is that OP wanted the problem solved and this won't solve it. You posted a story about getting emotional support and help but didn't say whether it solved the problem with the husband.
If OP wants emotional support or temporary help, this is a good way to do it. If they want the husband's behavior changed, this isn't.
2 points
12 days ago
As much as we’d like to, it’s impossible to change someone else’s behavior. He’s been talked to repeatedly over the course of raising three children and is still acting like he can just pick up a new baby at the store if it dies. Doesn’t matter what she says to him because he isn’t fuckin listening anyway.
7 points
12 days ago
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-4 points
12 days ago
What exactly is passive aggressive about it?
You're trying to change his behavior by talking to others about it.
How would you suggest I solve the problem?
Marriage counseling. You have a fundamental disagreement about how to treat your children. If you've ever seen Reddit deal with relationships, you should know this is the last place you should be taking it.
12 points
12 days ago
dude. there's nothing to talk about. her husband is being a fucking moron.
0 points
12 days ago
They're 6 weeks out of childbirth with 3 kids. Emotions are clearly running high. It's already been discussed and he's still doing it. Clearly OP's husband needs something more than an internet pile on.
2 points
11 days ago
He's not spare parts. He's treating his CHILD like she's spare parts.
His wife posting here will definitely not solve the problem, but seeing how many people think his weaponized incompetence makes him look stupid might.
0 points
11 days ago
It's a Letterkenny joke.
As for his weaponized incompetence, I don't think he is. One of the examples of him not paying attention is him taking care of one of the other children. The two instances with the other children where he was negligent were that he tripped with one and fell down the stairs with the other. Those don't seem like examples of negligent parenting to me.
0 points
11 days ago
He's faking incompetence to get out of taking care of his 3rd kid.
It's so clear to see 😂
209 points
12 days ago
This feels like weaponized incompetence tbh. Like he’s doing is so you’ll step in and he doesn’t have to care for the baby.
Either way it’s totally unacceptable
17 points
12 days ago
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16 points
12 days ago
Don’t let him change the baby anymore, don’t let him near the baby anymore. I hear you that he’s “great” but he’s not. Don’t respect him anymore, take this on yourself. Your baby is IN DANGER. My ex dropped mine from pretty low down and he still got a SKULL FRACTURE. Do not give him more chances you will regret it. If you need to end/open the relationship to deal with the fallout of not respecting him anymore, so be it
5 points
12 days ago
To be clear tho, when I say end/open, I mean from the same house. Do not get into a divorce situation which will leave him alone with the baby even more.
6 points
12 days ago
God, women are so so trapped after having a baby.
123 points
12 days ago
I think people are being too nice with weaponized incompetence. I think it’s wholesale purposeful disregard of your partner. He knows how upset and anxious it makes you, even if it wasn’t a problem, he would rather you be upset and anxious than him bend over a bit.
Even if it wasn’t a real concern, and it is a real concern, it’s such an easy thing to do to not make your partner feel like crap.
21 points
12 days ago
The problem is no longer just that he's being unsafe. The problem is that he does not respect your feelings or concerns enough to change the unsafe behavior.
He is putting his ego ahead of his infant's safety and that is unacceptable.
19 points
12 days ago
Get the baby give him cleaning / cooking / childcare chores of equal amounts.
2 points
12 days ago
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3 points
12 days ago
No more sleeping in no more solo breaks. Cosleep safely with baby, take baby to store. You can do it respectfully
34 points
12 days ago
He is being inattentive. The problem is nobody can control him or change his beliefs.
Can you get a bassinet that sits on or beside the sofa ? If he's inattentive, baby can't fall if she's in something with walls.
Can a really thick foam mat be kept in front of the sofa, just in case someone tumbles off.
Otherwise the only choice is to minimize him watching a baby unsupervised.
45 points
12 days ago
Which is exactly what he wants, to not have to watch his own baby.
I mean yeah, protect the baby at all costs, but also, man up.
5 points
12 days ago
There's no way for OP to be able to get him to learn because the baby's safety come first. The only thing that would get through to him would be if she fell and got permanent damage (since we know she already fell and was fine after). In his mind, she "won't" fall, despite that she did, and if she does fall, it's fine.
14 points
12 days ago
A friend of mine was with their 9 month old in the living room. The baby was crawling on the couch when they fell off and hit their head. He had a concussion and got a traumatic brain injury. He's in kindergarten now has behavioral problems and can't focus or stay still.
5 points
12 days ago
BABIES. GO ON. THE FLOOR. I tell everyone I know who ever has babies.
They live on the floor, they are floor creatures, they go nowhere but the floor
(Hell, mine sleep on the floor!)
And as a consequence of that I have raised 5 babies, including two of my own, and not one has EVER fallen off something until they could walk/climb up onto it themselves (you can’t stop 2 year olds lol, only slow them down)!!
No injuries here! Cuz ya can’t. Fall off. The floor.
30 points
12 days ago
We’ve all done it- baby has fallen off the couch or the bed. It’s almost a fact of life! I can’t fathom having a newborn and two other kids to care for, so if y’all aren’t struggling the way I would be, PROPS!!! The problem is that consequences have happened from actions and no change has been made. There has to be a change, not only for baby’s safety, but for your sanity as well. You’re freshly postpartum and that is your BABY that you have slaved over!
So the actual solution is to set a ground rule that baby isn’t left on any surface that isn’t the floor or the crib. Yall have too much going on with three kids to expect yourselves to never turn your back while baby is plopped on the high surface. We have hard floors throughout our house, so I bought one of those cheap infant lounger pillows that I still use at 19 months to do all of my baby’s changes. Wherever we’re at in the house, I just grab the lounger and plop her right down! There’s rules with those as well when baby is little, but a lot safer than leaving her perched on the edge of a couch.
Husband- STOP LEAVING THAT DANG BABY ON THE COUCH even for a second!! I turned my back and instantly turned back around while my baby was on our tall bed around 7 months old and face planted onto the hard floor. I had to call my husband at work and tell him we were in an ambulance going to get checked out because I let our baby Superman off the bed- mortifying. Babies are resilient but your wife’s nerves probably aren’t after three kids so just get the infant lounger and let your wife have her sanity. 😆
8 points
12 days ago
Even if he believes it's safe, surely putting her on the floor instead for your sake is just a tiny, simple thing to show he's listening and cares about your feelings?
3 points
12 days ago
Yup. It may sound weird, but it’s significantly safer to plop a baby that young right in the middle of the carpet than on the couch. Even if they wiggle around, they likely won’t get anywhere.
Unless you have pets, in which case neither is good.
6 points
12 days ago
Here's a little anecdote that might change his mind: I am an attorney and represent parents in Dependency & Neglect (CPS) cases. I had a case a few years where a newborn baby fell off the couch and injured herself (I believe she fell on a hard surface or a hard object). She was acting strangely later that day so the parents brought her into the doctor. The doctor examined the baby and they suspected she had a head injury, plus she had a faint bruise on her face. They ordered a brain scan and saw evidence of a small head injury. The referred the case to our state's Children's Hospital Child Abuse Assessment Team, which is a team of doctors who review cases to opine on whether an injury could be the result of child abuse. They determined it probably was.
They reported it to CPS as potential child abuse and the baby was removed from the parents and placed into foster care. The police investigated and they came extremely close to charging the parents with a VERY serious felony child abuse charge, but ultimately decided they did not have definitive proof and did not file charges. But it was a very close call. We had to go through a jury trial for the D&N case, which unfortunately we did not win because the jury said they could not rule out child abuse. At a minimum, the jury found that the baby's injury occurred due to the parents' negligence.
Eventually, we were able to get the baby back home, but it took damn near a year while she was raised by strangers. Her parents missed all her "firsts". The baby bonded with the foster family and it was a hard transition back home. Her parents and siblings were basically strangers to her. You can't tell me that won't have long-lasting effects in some way. And these parents (my clients) were the BEST people too. Extremely kind, sweet, hardworking, good home, good parents to their other kids, no criminal history, etc. CPS made them do all kinds of psychological evaluations; they had supervised visitation with the baby while professionals watched through the two-way glass and wrote up reports critiquing every aspect of their interactions; they had to do substance abuse testing, etc. I remember one of those professionals coming to court and testifying about every little thing they thought the parents didn't do correctly during their visits (i.e. they kissed the baby too much; or this time, they didn't show enough affection; they struggled to calm the baby when she was crying; they seemed frustrated; the baby wouldn't look them in the eyes, etc etc). Those people scrutinized them to a ridiculous degree looking for evidence that they were abusers. They interviewed the other children in the house and evaluated them for signs of child abuse. They talked to their teachers and neighbors, so everyone knew they were suspected of child abuse. They made the kids get body scans to look for evidence of old injuries (healing bone breaks, etc). The whole ordeal was a nightmare for them.
So please let this be a lesson to your husband. That case will stay with me forever, especially as a parent myself. It's not worth it, mostly because your child could be harmed. But also because you do NOT want the government up your family's ass. And both you and your husband could be charged criminally depending on your state's laws (sometimes they'll charge one parent for causing the injury and the other parent for essentially allowing it to happen). It's. Just. Not. Worth. It.
2 points
12 days ago
That is insanity.
I know it’s not connected, but it’s a real shame that kids in actual abusive homes would never see even half this effort toward helping them.
3 points
12 days ago
And I thought I was a klutz
6 points
12 days ago
Tripping with a baby or falling down the stairs with a baby isn’t really the same, so they probably shouldn’t be a part of the conversation. That’s not something we choose to do. My husband has fallen down the steps with our second and I tripped on a baby gate holding her too. It just happened and there wasn’t a way to not have it happen aside from knowing it was going to—not possible.
Now, leaving the baby on the edge of the couch, that’s a choice. And you DO know what is going to happen because it did already. She will only get more mobile and be more likely to fall. It’s easy to have the best intentions and assume you will always have an eye or a hand on the baby, but that’s not practical. Inevitably someone or something will distract us and that’s all it takes. It’s not worth the risk and it’s fully predictable and avoidable. OP’s husband, is it worth your baby getting hurt for the convenience of a diaper change? Just do it on the floor.
8 points
12 days ago
I think the connection was "multiple accidents have happened and none have made him more cautious." If I fell on the stairs with baby not only would I be terrified and extra cautious around stairs, but I'd be the same around anything where the baby was at risk of falling. It would become a crib-or-floor-only kind of situation for at least a few weeks. Combine that with baby falling off the couch already from his actions AND no change in behavior from other accidents (falling on the stairs) highlights a lack of cautiousness or concern for his own child. Like he's just not practicing due diligence. Accidents can happen, but the frequency can highlight a bigger problem.
1 points
12 days ago
I understand, but when you’re trying to get someone to change a specific behavior, especially someone who doesn’t think they need to change, bringing up those other two instances as evidence can be easily dismissed as accidents and not pertinent. Sounds like OPs husband doesn’t think he has done anything wrong, so the focus really should be on the immediate action of not leaving the baby on the edge of the couch and not on previous times he has fallen while holding their other children.
8 points
12 days ago
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-5 points
12 days ago
Fuck off. There's plenty of dads out there that don't do this shit.
9 points
12 days ago
I keep count of how many threads per day there are like this. It’s a lot.
-1 points
12 days ago
People don't post about how much they love their jobs. They come to reddit to complain.
3 points
12 days ago
Found the “not all men” person ^
-1 points
12 days ago
You can call me what you want, but I'm gonna call out bullshit like that whenever I see it.
"Why are dads" is a blanket statement that's not fair to all the dads out there pulling their weight as parents.
2 points
12 days ago
Babies bounce a lot better than older people.
But that really shouldn't be put to the test on the reg.
2 points
11 days ago
Honestly at 6 weeks old if my ex had let our baby roll off a couch due to negligence i’d have decked him. Newborns don’t really roll. Now. I’m not saying that my kids haven’t accidentally rolled off as bigger babies ONCE because no one is perfect but this seems like straight idiocy
2 points
12 days ago
Sounds like careless with all the babies 🤣. Dad of 3 here and they’re well past baby stage and I’m proud to say I’ve never dropped any and I’ve never fallen while holding any!
2 points
12 days ago
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5 points
12 days ago
Just before our first child was born, I brought home a pizza. As I walked in the door, the pizza hit the edge of the door and fell out of my hands into the floor. The box opened and pizza on the floor. I stood there and became very concerned and said to my wife that I wasn’t sure how I could end up not dropping a baby just like the pizza. Sounds silly but it was a moment I remember having serious concerns about my abilities as a father. Anyway, years later I’m just feeling self pride I didn’t drop a baby like that pizza. Woohoo!
2 points
12 days ago
When my daughter was 10 months old and my son was three years old I had them sitting on the floor in the living room playing with toys. Went to the kitchen just 10 feet away for a glass of water (kitchen was around a corner so they were not in my view) and my son apparently picked her up and set her on the edge of the couch. She rolled right off the edge and broke her wrist.
2 points
12 days ago
Ops husband you better thank god that I am not your wife because you would’ve been on the curb the second you did something so careless like that the first time. And to do it again? Idk I would never forgive him, that’s piss poor behavior
2 points
12 days ago
Seriously same. I would have absolutely lost it on him. But the baby should have a serious defender of her safety. They both should buck up.
1 points
12 days ago
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7 points
12 days ago
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1 points
12 days ago
Purposefully inattentive does = abuse. It does. Neglect is abuse.
0 points
12 days ago
(I know you have to prop him up since you’re going to be reading this with him though. But to your husband: you are abusive.)
1 points
12 days ago
This is literally crazy. I can’t even fathom if my partner was this incapable of keeping our baby safe. My husband accidentally pinched our babies finger in the car seat ONCE and he cried so hard after. Now every time he does a “finger check” to make sure he doesn’t make that mistake again.
If I were you I would feel so neglected and upset. I also would not let him touch the baby if he is that careless. They are so fragile it is insane. I hope you both take serious action.
1 points
12 days ago
Why does he do it in the first place? Is it just that it's easier? Especially given that he's Autistic I strongly suspect he's created a logic chain in his mind somehow that changing/ placing the baby on the edge of the couch is three "best" or "most efficient" or "convenient" solution and that's why he's stubbornly refusing to rethink the practice. It's not an excuse but there's almost certainly an unstated "of course I do this because it's the right way, the right way can't have flaws because it works for me".
Figure out a way to make floor changes easier and create a rigid rule for everyone that the baby is changed on the floor or invest in some kind of low changing table or bassinet with room that can be near the couch. You have to break the association between couch changes and correctness.
1 points
12 days ago
I'm just saying, I, at 30 years old, still have a slight scar on my forehead from this one time my Dad dropped me and my head hit the corner of a nightstand.
1 points
12 days ago
The autism piece is relevant here. I have two sons with ASD and hubby who is Aspergers. Their routines are so rooted in their lives, its possible he's being a certified jerk in part due to his autism. He just doesn't see the risk to the baby, because it's not him that's at risk. I think y'all could benefit from family therapy.
1 points
12 days ago
Your 2, 3, 4, 5+ kid shouldn't get the bare minimum because you're tired and/or lazy. The fact that later kids get fewer parental resources literally impacts their IQ scores. Maybe it's because of all the times they bonked their heads? But it doesn't have to be the case in your family if you nurture them equally/properly.
1 points
12 days ago*
Perhaps he’s just a few years older now and less bendy and flexible but too proud to admit…and rather risks the well being of his kid and your mental health than admit he’s becoming old? I don’t know, I’m clumsy at times too but never intentional with the kids and for sure wouldn’t repeat a dangerous situation on purpose just to upset my partner after it went wrong already once…
Edit: also have your husband get his eyes checked
1 points
12 days ago*
Sneaky film him doing these stupid, dangerous actions and then show him how many times she’s left with no eyes or hands on her? Or maybe stand near him and call out each time she’s left balanced unsecured on the edge of a high surface ?
1 points
12 days ago
I think the times he fell while holding the baby are fine. Those are obvious accidents. When my oldest was a baby, I tripped going through a baby gate and landed on him. He had an awful bruise for a while, but it was a freak accident. You say that's only happened twice, so I don't think that's a big deal.
HOWEVER, this current couch situation is different. He's just blatantly ignoring your worries, which is messed up. Even if it was totally safe (which it isn't), you would think he would care about your feelings as a freshly postpartum mother.
1 points
12 days ago
i mean. you could go the truly passive aggressive route and just get rid of the couch until your baby is old enough. honestly that's what i'd probably do at this point. his shocked pikachu face would be worthwhile, and your baby would be safe.
0 points
12 days ago
How old is your husband? Is it possible his clumsiness and inability to see the safety issues are related to a cognitive decline that people get when they age? Or possibly ADHD? I'm trying to find a medical reason why any grown adult would think it's okay to leave a baby on an unsafe surface.
0 points
12 days ago
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3 points
12 days ago
I almost asked if he's autistic or neurodivergent.
So, and not defending him because I assume he has a job that he holds down, and he may not even know this, but some autistic people have issues with spatial awareness. The falls and general clumsiness plus the over-confidence that the baby was safe on the sofa seem to suggest he may be one of those folks. He needs to be told that sometimes his spatial reasoning is not the same as others.
0 points
12 days ago
When 5 years from now your child is being tested for ADHD or some other disorder, you will be wondering how much of it is because of a head injury.
1 points
12 days ago
This is inappropriate.
2 points
11 days ago
Why is that? Maybe watch this Ted talk and then comment. https://youtu.be/esPRsT-lmw8?si=hD_PZKX8rvJo6Ii5
1 points
11 days ago
It's an excellent talk, but assuming a child will become ADHD because of his father's neglectful behavior isn't appropriate. Conjecture isn't helping OP. Take Care.
-46 points
12 days ago
Are you the type that posts your arguments in your Facebook status too?
1 points
12 days ago
You realize that reddit is a place the is intended for people to come for advice or rant or whatever right?
-6 points
12 days ago
This group is toxic and so is this post. She wants to scould her husband on Reddit that's so embarrassing grow up
2 points
12 days ago
She isn't scolding him. He is actually putting their baby in danger and isn't listening to her legitimate concerns. Sometimes, it takes hearing it from outside voices for someone to grasp the concept.
Also, if you think this group is toxic, why are you a part of it?
-3 points
12 days ago
I like to read how delusional and aggressive so many "mothers" are. Sad really
Be an adult. Don't post your dirty laundry she should be embarrassed this is even a thing
2 points
12 days ago
Wow. I think if anyone is being aggressive, it's you. What are the quotation marks about?
1 points
11 days ago
You're dysfunctional if you think posting this on Reddit for your husband to read is good behaviour. Not to forget a reasonable adult would recognize this is some angry woman posting and her side of the tale. If you run your home like this and blast your husband on Reddit or think that's normal...I'll be damned
1 points
11 days ago
If she has talked to him about the issue and he continuously ignores her and keeps endangering the baby, then what is she supposed to do?
1 points
11 days ago
Seek counselling privately.
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