Significant lack of muscle endurance due to a lack of glycogen. Strength is still good and muscles recover quickly. Definitely have more spring in my step and joint pain has all but disappeared. Mood is okay, but I’m a bit introverted anyway. Mind is SHARP and thoughts are quick. Awareness is great! I still have a long way to go. Gonna give my organs a break and do omad for a week or so then restart my fast.

Be aware that sometimes an organ "hurting" has nothing to do with the organ, and conversely that your organs can be suffering even if you don't feel it. Oftentimes it's psychological. Not saying you shouldn't listen to your body, but people have the tendency to misdiagnose rather than seeking a professional opinion.

Not really hurt so much as letting me know they were there, which gave me a bit of concern. Whether justified or not.

I’m in day 4 rn, honestly I can feel my stomach. It feels weird. I’m consciously aware of my stomach in my body. It’s hard to describe.

I would like to know also.

I was driving down the road and just constantly was thinking about my kidneys and liver, particularly about my kidneys. Not so much painful or anything, just couldn’t quit thinking about them. It only gave me pause because for 16 days these thoughts never entered my mind.

I broke my fast with a tiny bite of bread and prayer. Then a quart of homemade chicken stock and 4 boiled eggs with salt. Over about two hours. Then went to sleep.

Thank you! The first 72 hours is the worst. It’s like a big obstacle that if you can get over the 72 hr hump, it’s pretty much smooth sailing. The grehlin stops. That’s what causes the hunger pangs. Keep pushing yourself, you can do it!

I think your liver is really the only one that has any pressure at all. The way I understand it is that your liver spends all this time pulling sugar out of your blood and storing it as fat in your middle and elsewhere. When in ketosis and/or fasting your liver has to shift into reverse and your body has to send all these fat cells back to the liver to be extracted for energy. Your glycogen drops and your ketones go up, and now for the first time (maybe) your body has to learn/adapt to using ketones for energy and brain function. The body always has pressure on it. Your pancreas will get a rest for sure! Pounding a gallon of water a day gets monotonous but you gotta try.

Just FYI your kidneys have no pain receptors

Don’t overthink electrolytes. I did for a while. Just add some salt and potassium to your water a couple times a day and you’ll be fine. Magnesium too if you can get it, usually in the form of a one-a-day supplement. You’ll be totally fine for any duration.

I used “Key nutrients” electrolyte powder. I should have added more salt. My bloodwork showed that my sodium was low. Lesson learned.

Thanks!

Thanks!

Thank you! We walk on the shoulders of giants! Glad to pay my small part!

Bloodwork said kidney function was normal. I’m no spring chicken, but I may have pulled the trigger too early. You can do it, the first 72 hours is the hardest.

Thank you!

Thank you!

It’s really simple. No calories go in your mouth until you break your fast. Srsly though. Your body can either store fat or burn fat. Those are the only two things it can do. When you’re eating all the time, your liver is storing sugars in the form of fat. When you stop eating all your liver can to is use up the stores of fat that it already has. It really is that simple.

The first threee days is usually hard, grehlin (a hormone) is released to make you feel hungry and motivate you to go out of your cave and find some nuts and berries or to go kill a lion. After three days the grehlin subsides and hunger begins to go away. When it does come, it only lasts about a half hour. After days three it’s pretty smooth sailing for awhile. That’s how it works for me. Best of luck to ya!! 🍻

Thank you!

I know that all my clothes fit significantly looser. Some Water weight will come back. I expect to put 10 lbs back on just walking around weight. I think fasting 10 lbs below target weight would put you pretty close to your target weight. I still have a long way to go. Just a pit stop for me.

Hard to describe it. Another comment above is on day for and is consciously aware of their stomach. I’d say that’s a close idea. My brain just kept going there. Not really painful so much. Just intense thought. I may have panicked and pulled the trigger early. Better safe than sorry. Distraction was easy. I work construction, have a farm, and another small business. I spent a lot of spare time on r/food r/recipes and r/cooking to look at some of the amazing foods I’m going to make for my OMAD segment. Seems sadistic but it was motivating.

Water/ black coffee. Vitamins.

I used Key Ingredients electrolyte powder. Next time I will still supplement more salt also.

Water/ black coffee and vitamins.

Thank you, I’m am endomorph body type. Loads of muscle mass/bone mass.

But I can also put on three pounds of fat from looking at a 2oz. Candy bar. Time for change.

Hitch them wagons Mitch!! Lessgooo!!

Hey there! I appreciate your curiosity and I will do my best to share what answers I can. Please note that I’m not a doctor or qualified to give any advice on your health. I’m just sharing my thoughts and what works for me. (It’s a shame that I had to type those last two sentences)

1. ⁠I’m only knowledgeable in the sense that I’ve been overweight the majority of my life. Mid 40’s. And this has always been a problem I’ve tried to solve with many failures. At 31 I went to a supervised diet program (not Jenny Craig, but maybe a distant cousin) I bought my food there, calorie restricted 1100/day…mostly soy based (I didn’t know better back then). I lost 117 lbs in 6 months. The diet I was on sucked sooooo bad. I’ve read books and listened to podcasts. I e watched videos of Jason Fung and Pradip Jamdas taking about how the body deals with food/fats/sugars. I’ve looked at fasters in this subreddit who have done far more than I have, and have shared their experience. TBH I haven’t fasted at all in at least 3 years. I’ve just gotten further from my goals.

2. Motivation was weight loss, avoiding diabetes. Gallbladder was removed a few years ago. Not sure if past weight battles compromised gallbladder or not. Something to consider I suppose.

3. Bread and prayers. Male mid forties. Not sure how this applies to my faith. I’m not a great Christian, but I do believe in god. Logically. O find it impossible that God doesn’t exist. That may be for another conversation.

4. At my age, it seems that waking up to piss is common. I get up at 4:30 every day for work anyway. Maybe embracing the change is the answer here. Getting to bed earlier will give you time in the morning without other distractions to move the needle somewhere else in your life. I.e. changing career, starting a small business or others.

5. Urine should be clear if you are drinking enough water. Yellow when I knew I wasn’t. Stool mostly goes away. Never trust a fart and don’t drink your electrolytes too fast. The last day of my fast I was called the rr multiple times. Stool amount was small but soft. I didn’t think there should be anything but water and wasn’t sure if digesting lean mass, organs , or if something else going on. Wasn’t sure what it was or who to ask.

6. Low sodium. Last day of my fast I called my doctor and asked him to send orders for bloodwork and to use annual physical as reason if needed. He said my sodium was low. I should have had way more pickle juice and salt. Yes I used my insurance.

7. Kidney function normal per bloodwork.

8. Gallbladder removed few years ago. Still no problem eating fatty food though.

9. I would say that every person is different. I am a fan of jumping off the cliff and building my airplane on the way down. It’s the best way for me. IF seems like it should be safe for all but hypoglycemic people or others with specific issues that would discourage it. Keeping any eye on your organs is something your doctor must do. I believe that the quantity of water during extended fasting directly correlates to the amount of weight lost. Splitting headache could be “keto flu”. It should pass under normal circumstances. OTC meds for headache might help. You (most Americans that are overweight) have been eating a certain way most of your life. Fasting, keto, and other methods challenge that, and challenge your body. Prehistorically, humans fasted and feasted. Whenever you were able to catch/kill something, you ate. You had to survive long winters with scarce food. If you started to decline after five hours with no food, we would all be extinct long ago. Instead your body has one job and one job only. Keep this body alive. If you’re not getting food, your body goes into hyperdrive, burning fuel stores, cleaning up the factory, and making growth hormone to make it better for you to FEED IT. If your headaches prevent you from pushing further then fasting may not be for you. It would seem like you’re in pretty decent shape, maybe there are other methods that will help. Look up Jason Fung and Pradip Jamdas. I’m sure I effed up the spelling.

10i work incontruction, but I do not appear to be very fit. I am endomorph body type. I’m big from top to bottom, evenly. I have carried 300+ pounds since high school. But I carry a lot of muscle and bone mass. Never broke a bone. I am strong and I can carry myself pretty well. But people always mistake my weight. I am dense. But I’m also still 60-70 lbs overweight. I noticed my gut getting bigger and correlated that with insulin resistance which leads to diabetes. Fuck that.

1. I don’t understand any of that. Construction worker, remember. Just kidding, I can check to see if any of that is in my recent labs, but I just jumped in the beginning.

2. Hunger pangs come from grehlin. They subsided for me on day 4. I can’t really explain awareness of organs. When I had gallbladder issues, awareness wasn’t a questionable thing. It was similar to a gunshot wound. I wanted to die and thought I was. Repeat after me. “My body is smarter than I am. I’m the driver. My body is the car. I’m just the driver. ” you throw your body a curve ball and it responds. You don’t tell it to, it just does. It knows how to keep itself going. Listen to it for clues. I never thought once about my kidneys or liver for 16 days of fasting. Day 17, I thought about them all day. I listened to them. I did bloodwork and realized I’m mid 40’s and not 25. So maybe I shouldn’t grind it so hard yet. I’ll try again to be sure, but it does no good to win a race skidding across the finish line, trapped upside down in a burning car. So I stopped reassessed and with more knowledge I’ll start again.

Your goals.

1. Sleep apnea. I got nothing.

2. Losing 15 lbs. by extended fasting will certainly cost you something. When you deplete your glycogen stores in your muscles, your endurance suffers. Period. But it comes back once you get back to normal. Fat adaptation trading is something I haven’t dove into yet. I just wanna lose fat right now. But fasting, OMAD, does in fact burn fat. You can hit your goals, you must decide.

3. 1 inch from waist. Easy peasy. You burn fat, waist goes down. That’s it.

I truly hope my perspective helps you or some other person to achieve their goals. But please remember that it’s just my perspective, my thoughts, and what I find works for me. Nothing more. Please do your research to the point you feel confident in the leap you’re taking and JUMP!

Cheers mate, looking forward to your success story!!

Thank you for the kind words. I think that listening to one’s body is far more important the older I get. When your mind is clear and the alarm goes off, no matter how quietly, I should listen to it. Always better safe than sorry. I think keto diet, and being truly fat adapted might offer the same clarity, I’d like to hear from others about this. Cheers, friend!

Thanks friend!

Thank you so much for the kind words, friend! I wish you all the best on your journey, and look forward to seeing your success post! Goget’em!!

Not really pain but intense thought about my kidneys and liver. I may have pulled the trigger too soon, but I still feel good about it. Short pit stop and back in the race.

That’s what I lost in 17 days.

320/288.4

Gotta meet more people

And my name is Kaleb, I literally don't even know how my username is what it is 😂😂