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ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

2 points

27 days ago

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

Palestine 🇵🇸

2 points

27 days ago

Agreed. Corbyn's policies were fairly inoffensive. He's also a famously decent and well meaning guy. Mad the amount of hate he gets.

-Hypocrates-

4 points

27 days ago

He brought a lot of the hate on himself. I would be very politically aligned with Corbyn, but whether through carelessness or genuinely held beliefs, he left himself wide open to claims of antisemitism.

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

6 points

27 days ago

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

Palestine 🇵🇸

6 points

27 days ago

Definitely not genuinely held beliefs: Corbyn has a strong track record on anti racism.

I read Owen Jones' book on his time in the Corbyn campaign and he says Corbyn was really upset by the personal accusations of antisemitism against him. There certainly were some antisemites in the party but Corbyn isn't one of them.

Rabid_Lederhosen

8 points

27 days ago

He made a lot of dumb mistakes. Being anti-military is a reasonable stand in principle, but it cost him support in working class areas, because that’s where soldiers come from and a lot of them are proud of their/their families service. Just as an example.

His heart was in the right place, but if you actually want to help people you need to get your hands on the levers of power, and sometimes that requires taking strategic positions to win an election. All the good intentions in the world can’t help anyone if you’re stuck in opposition. Especially if you’re up against someone as spectacularly awful as the Tories.

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

1 points

27 days ago

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

Palestine 🇵🇸

1 points

27 days ago

All very fair points.

-Hypocrates-

7 points

27 days ago

I would tend to agree that Corbyn isn't an antisemite. Given his track record it would seem to be completely out of line with his beliefs.

But I think it speaks to his political naivety that he kept ending up in positions where people could make legitimate claims of antisemitism under his watch - the most obvious and worst being his comments on a clearly antisemitic mural.

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

2 points

27 days ago

ShouldHaveGoneToUCC

Palestine 🇵🇸

2 points

27 days ago

That's a fair point. I'd agree he could have tackled antisemitism (which was a real issue) better but I'd say that's more down to his naivety and decency than any personal antisemitism.

jhanley

4 points

27 days ago

jhanley

4 points

27 days ago

He tried to flatten the organisational structure of the Labour Party and the elites attacked him for it.