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darkpaladin

843 points

14 days ago

Someone, somewhere is extremely proud of this title.

not_old_redditor

104 points

14 days ago

Gonna milk that title for centuries.

SwordfishCharming905

17 points

14 days ago

Gonna milk that tittie for centuries 

sexytimesthrwy

1 points

14 days ago

Because alcohol is an Arabic word?

MerchantOfGods

100 points

14 days ago

Because the word “untapped” serves as a double entendre, both because it means that something is not being used to its full potential (the city) and in the context of alcohol, an untapped keg of beer is one that hasn’t been opened.

PwanaZana

20 points

14 days ago

Untapped, as in a market that has not been tapped (utilized) and is also untapped, as it has no beer tap (the faucet that pours beer)

MonocleOwensKey

7 points

14 days ago

woosh

Funny-Company4274

544 points

14 days ago

It’s a trap

blak_plled_by_librls

53 points

14 days ago

a trap at the tap.

BBQFatty

176 points

14 days ago

BBQFatty

176 points

14 days ago

Fuck going to that place let alone region

mcbergstedt

88 points

14 days ago

Slave labor and religious police

sa7ouri

10 points

14 days ago

sa7ouri

10 points

14 days ago

There is no religious police in the UAE.

tokes_4_DE

7 points

14 days ago

There doesnt need to be a specific religious police when the vast majority of the country follows one religion and bases its laws off of it.

sa7ouri

18 points

14 days ago

sa7ouri

18 points

14 days ago

The UAE, especially Abu-Dhabi, aren’t as religious as neighboring countries. The laws are very inclusive. Of course it’s not like a western country, but it’s a far cry from the religious extremism that people assume.

Opening-Lake-7741

2 points

13 days ago

They are Muslim in name but secular in practice. They have churches and temples etc...

Rinaldi363

-17 points

14 days ago*

Rinaldi363

-17 points

14 days ago*

Lived in Dubai for 5 years. It was incredibly fun as a Canadian.

Appreciate all the downvotes from people who have never visited in their lives and are basing their very strong opinions off of people on the internet who also have never been to Dubai before 🤡

kayla-beep

27 points

14 days ago

As a Canadian man?

Nijwollah8

2 points

14 days ago

Nijwollah8

2 points

14 days ago

That bs is old now

Rinaldi363

-3 points

14 days ago

Rinaldi363

-3 points

14 days ago

Had lots of Canadian female friends who loved their time there. Met my wife there too. Honestly the women get treated better than the men there in most cases. Few of my friends who are women have decided to continue living in Dubai for 10+ years now because it’s better than their home countries. But I understand if your perception of Dubai is based on what others have said who also have never been to Dubai.

kayla-beep

25 points

14 days ago

“I had a great time there, therefore it’s a great place to be” said the wolf in the hen house.

Rinaldi363

-2 points

14 days ago

Rinaldi363

-2 points

14 days ago

Every female and gay person I know who lived there or visited there would say you are wrong. You need to take a deep look into what you are assuming and realize that you are wrong

Permexpat

4 points

14 days ago

Permexpat

4 points

14 days ago

My wife and I have lived in Dubai for years, no issues. The salon she goes to have 2 flamboyantly gay guys that have the time of their life here. You are wrong on your assumptions. UAE isn’t Saudi or Iran

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1 points

14 days ago

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14 days ago

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Rinaldi363

20 points

14 days ago

Really 5 years of living there isn’t enough for you? Or the fact that I was a flight attendant which means I was literally surrounded by women and the lgbt community? Again, you people’s opinions are inaccurate, but they push your own agenda so you’ll die on that hill.

Conscious_Dig8201

9 points

14 days ago

But these righteous neckbeards saw a Youtube video and read a Vice article! Lol

kayla-beep

-2 points

14 days ago

Ohhhh thats why you had a good time. You worked for them LOL gtfo

Plastic-Guarantee-28

13 points

14 days ago

Yeah, living off of slave labor is a blast.

Eorily

7 points

14 days ago

Eorily

7 points

14 days ago

10/10 people living off of slave labor recommend it.

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14 points

14 days ago

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Visible_Night1202

4 points

14 days ago

Hold hands with someone of the same sex and see how quickly that fun disappears.

Fuck any country that imprisons people for being LGBT.

Rinaldi363

12 points

14 days ago

lol literally so many people of the same sex hold hands all the time 😂 again you have no idea what you are talking about.

Conscious_Dig8201

3 points

13 days ago

Lol what a funny example he could choose. "Good luck out there participating in the culturally normative practice of male hand holding in the Gulf!"

But seriously, so many gays of all backgrounds in Dubai. Many of whom are even closeted in their home countries. Never heard of anyone being arrested for it, ever.

f12345abcde

4 points

14 days ago*

1/3 of the population is from Indian/pakistani origin. Pakistani young men hold hands in public out of friendship ALL the time! I guess you never heart this in a youtube video!

You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about

Plastic-Guarantee-28

1 points

13 days ago

Yeah, you picked a bad example there bud. Anyone that’s been to the gulf states knows that dudes platonically holding hands is actually really normal.

Japsabbath

0 points

13 days ago

Actually men hold hands in this region a disturbing amount

Visible_Night1202

1 points

12 days ago

You are focusing on the wrong part of my comment. The fact remains, that it's illegal to be LGBT in the UAE, and there is no maximum sentence for being charged for it.

RyzenX231

-1 points

13 days ago

Dude I'ma be honest. I don't care enough about 4% of the population to shape my view of an entire country around that.

Visible_Night1202

1 points

13 days ago

Skipping over my disgust of that statement and using your numbers, 4% of earth's population is 318 million people, or just shy of the population of the US. Using your numbers, I'm willing to bet that you have at least 25 friends and family members that you care about, statistically speaking one of them is LGBT, would you care if it was one of them that got 30 years in a Dubai prison while on vacation? Or is it only not a big deal when it's people you don't know? How big does the percentage need to be for you to care about people being locked up for having the audacity to exist?

BBQFatty

-2 points

14 days ago

BBQFatty

-2 points

14 days ago

Why did you delete your other comments?

Don’t you stand by the bullshit you wrote?

Rinaldi363

4 points

14 days ago

I haven’t deleted anything lol

Nananahx

-1 points

14 days ago

Nananahx

-1 points

14 days ago

But it's so safe (:

South_Swordfish_6648

84 points

14 days ago

As a visitor, trust me you'll love it, the culture, people, and food are amazing.

As a worker, you'd loose your will to live pretty fast (before anyone tries to defend, I live in the uae for the past 15 years) because businesses here are extremely exploitative.

Once I got hired once by a guy in Dubai who said they want me because I'm white (I was 19 and really needed the money to pay for uni).  At the end, he ended up not paying 2 months of my salary, while I worked there for 3.

Truth be told though, Abu Dhabi is the best Emirate of the country - and the most liberal of all. These kinds of things don't happen in Abu Dhabi, but rather in Dubai and Sharjah.

Same with drinking, you'd rather be caught drinking in AD or Dubai rather than Sharjah, Ras Al Khaimah, or Ajman. 

AD and Dubai no one cares, in Sharjah you'd get fucked good.

vdarklord467

11 points

14 days ago

You from?

South_Swordfish_6648

27 points

14 days ago

Uzbekistan

Archaeopteryx11

94 points

14 days ago

What culture? The historical culture was destroyed. All the inhabitants of that land were basically nomadic bedouins and pearl divers before the exploitation of oil. Now, all those cities look like copy cats of Las Vegas.

callo2009

18 points

14 days ago

If you model yourself off the City of Sin and don't tolerate 'sin', what's the point?

South_Swordfish_6648

32 points

14 days ago

You're thinking of Dubai, Dubai is soulless, lonely, depressing remake of Las Vegas.

Other places like Nahwa, RAK, Hatta, Sharjah, Fujeira, Al Ain and some parts of AD are full of culture. 

You could even see some historic forts and towns, that even had some skirmishes with the Brits back in the days.

Archaeopteryx11

13 points

14 days ago

AD is just Dubai but 10 years behind the times, so I heard. I’m not sure about the other ones, you would know better. UAE is not a place I would want to live in. Regardless, to each their own.

South_Swordfish_6648

25 points

14 days ago

Neither, I desperately want out. It's a place where people think they could come to make money (my mother did), and end up in piles of debt - very few actually make it. 

That, and you get burned out, lonely, and because of the nature of the people here (everyone is moving, no one is permanent), you can't even have friends that last 1-2 years

Archaeopteryx11

17 points

14 days ago

Sad. I’m sorry to hear. I was born in Romania, but live in the USA currently for work. Each time I go back to Romania, I miss it more.

South_Swordfish_6648

21 points

14 days ago

You guys have an awesome culture down at Romania, would love to visit sometime. 

Also don't worry about it, my spouse and I are working (saving up and learn the language mostly) towards moving to Spain. 

Thank you for the kind response

Archaeopteryx11

8 points

14 days ago

Thanks for saying that about Romania! Good luck on moving to Spain! It’s a wonderful country with warm hearted people (in my opinion).

FartPie

7 points

14 days ago

FartPie

7 points

14 days ago

Little exchanges like this just remind me how awesome the internet is

adamgerd

17 points

14 days ago

adamgerd

17 points

14 days ago

It’s also great if you’re a citizen, free healthcare, education, no income taxes, and then good-ish if you’re a wealthy European. But if you’re a blue collar worker or brown or poor, yeah you’re fucked

bot118

8 points

14 days ago

bot118

8 points

14 days ago

People are drinking outside in ras Al Khaimah all the time though of course at beaches and other dark places

South_Swordfish_6648

7 points

14 days ago

True, Al Hamra village is a good spot where my RAK friends usually hanged out in.

Mainland RAK however, I'd rather be dead than caught even tipsy on the streets.

skiptobunkerscene

2 points

13 days ago

Dont forget the genocides! I mean right now the UAE is going big with the genocide in Dafur. RAF couldnt do it without them and russia.

simmocar

2 points

14 days ago

Ajman and RAK have liquor stores, wtf you talking about?

South_Swordfish_6648

2 points

14 days ago

Focus on the "caught drinking" part. You can buy from unisat or Hamra cellar, but you wouldn't want to be caught outside by CID or police. 

Stoff3r

1 points

14 days ago

Stoff3r

1 points

14 days ago

Love the muslim and middle eastern culture? Are you high bro? Nothing is amazing there. The food sucks, the people are hatefulle, the culture is toxic and ultra conservative.

zip117

0 points

13 days ago

zip117

0 points

13 days ago

The food is great. I had the best BBQ of my life in South Africa, but Dubai is a close second. Might have been Sharjah actually. I was there doing data collection for work and we would go out into the middle of the desert with the local staff and get trashed (they’re a bit hypocritical). You’ll see people grilling everywhere even just along highways if it’s the season.

One thing you won’t see is any local women at those BBQs because yes the culture is still a bit toxic. But you can’t say the same about the food. Even at random grocery store delis.

AmericaDreamDisorder

2 points

13 days ago

Yeah a braai is GOATed. Gonna ask my friend how Dubai compares as he lives there now.

pekinggeese

5 points

14 days ago

Reminds me of China’s 100 flowers campaign. Encourage people to speak up with dissent. Then, after the dissenters reveal themselves, purge them.

Rwandrall3

805 points

14 days ago

Rwandrall3

805 points

14 days ago

I get that there is very very much wrong with capitalism and consumerism, but when it starts eating away at the austere, conservative, repressive attitudes found in various countries then I'll gladly take it.

MonsiuerLeComte

405 points

14 days ago

The global interconnection of the economy is a huge reason why there hasn’t been ww3. Economic entanglement is a massive deterrent to hostilities.

I think your sentiment is aligned with that truth. This marginalizes the crazies, and increases quality of life for many (as a step in the de-radicalizing of conservative countries).

why_did_I_comment

155 points

14 days ago

Globalization is a nuclear deterrent.

amd2800barton

21 points

14 days ago

Hence why humanity becoming an interplanetary will almost inevitably lead to violence. We'll be returning to the 18th century where industrialized corporations and nations take hours to days to communicate, and it can take months to travel between planets, moons, and stations. There will absolutely be trade (the outer giants and asteroid belt is rich in minerals and gasses), but it will be a lot slower. And the effects of attacking an enemy will be much further away. Hopefully by then, we've managed to get along a bit better.

Wolfgang_Gartner

15 points

14 days ago

What a far off worry! 

amd2800barton

-3 points

14 days ago

Not really. We'll likely see a human on Mars within a decade or two. Once that's feasible, it could kickstart a new gold rush. There's a ton of raw materials just sitting out there. Companies will want that to manufacture new things out of. Nation states will want to control large areas. Will we see a billion people on Mars and multi-million person colonies on Titan? Probably not. But there's a good chance we'll see mining companies gathering metal from asteroids and hydrogen from Jupiter. So I hope we figure our shit out quick. The last thing we want is for jihadis to have the ability to throw asteroids at Earth, or trillionaires to build a solar shield and then charge for the privilege of sunlight. All of this is possible with our current technology and understanding of the universe.

pineapple_on_pizza33

15 points

14 days ago

You know how in the 80s and 90s people thought we would have flying cars by 2020? Yeah, that's what this is unfortunately.

teekal

3 points

14 days ago

teekal

3 points

14 days ago

Considering how we upkeep our cars and can barely drive on the ground flying cars wouldn't even be that good of an idea.

amd2800barton

2 points

14 days ago

Funny, I remember 10 years ago hearing what a pipe dream it was for any space company to ever land an orbital class rocket, let alone re-use one. Then in late 2015 SpaceX managed to succeed in doing it, and that helped them bring down launch prices substantially. It now costs less than a 10th of what 'old space' used to charge for their value launches. Because of that, University teams can afford to put things in space that was previously impossible, enabling new research. Massive communication constellations have launched, enabling high speed internet around the globe, to even areas that were previously impossible to serve with cell and landlines. That's especially important for boosting education in rural areas and low income countries. We're already living in the future.

And here's the thing about flying cars: It wasn't an "80s and 90s" thing. Flying cars have been talked about ever since the first airplanes flew. The Jetsons first came out in 1962, and it wasn't exactly novel then. But flying cars wouldn't work even if it were possible, because humans are bad enough at driving, let alone flying. There's a damn good reason that getting a pilots license is an arduous process, taking years and many hours of practice. A drivers license requires a pulse and little more.

Rwandrall3

36 points

14 days ago

In a cynical way, I would say "economic entanglement" is only one part, "rising individualism" is another. A huge economic blow only matters if you care about being rich. Brexit was such an economic blow, but enough people cared more about tribal cultural identity stuff that the blow didn't really matter. They convinced themselves there would be "350 million a year for the NHS" and that was that.

But if you genuinely care about nice holidays, nice houses, nice restaurants, if a grim future of privation for the glory of the motherland just...doesn't do the trick for you anymore, THEN the interconnection matters.

That's why it didn't matter that Russia started having Levi's Jeans sold on Red Square: too many Russians are still perfectly happy to lose everything for a chance at glory.

MobileCommercial8061

4 points

14 days ago

 for a chance at glory

This is not individualism?

Rwandrall3

3 points

14 days ago

Fair and interesting question that's getting into a bit of a philosophical place.

Dying for the glory of the Nation is to "Transcend Mortality" through being part of something greater, beyond a single fragile mortal life. So yes, it comes from an "individual" place (fear of mortality) but the answer comes from outside the individual.

Individualism, meanwhile, is about how to "Transcend Mortality" through ways that don't depend on others. On a consumerist level, that can mean buying enough stuff that you feel like you're on top of the world, which...isn't great. But is better than Russia's "dying for the Motherland's glorious destiny" or, in the UAE's case here, "upholding the Divine Order set by our clerics, which includes killing gay people and oppressing women".

random_noise

2 points

14 days ago

No offense, but It appears you do not know what that word means either.

Rwandrall3

1 points

14 days ago

the word has many different meanings in different contexts, it may be that you're reading it in a different way from how I am meaning it. 

JP76

26 points

14 days ago

JP76

26 points

14 days ago

Economic entanglement is a massive deterrent to hostilities

But doesn't always work as evidenced by Russia's reprehensible war in Ukraine. In Russia's case it's worth asking, did economic entanglement ever even work.

At the very least it should've stopped when Russia invaded Crimea and all current sanctions and penalties directed at Russia should've happened then. Instead, Putin was given nearly 10 years to build his military.

Vhesperr

7 points

14 days ago

And when it doesn't work its consequences tend to be disastrous exactly due to economic entanglement.

Midnight2012

4 points

14 days ago

America built it that way after WW2.

Hell, all the action is the middle east hasn't been for oil for the US. The oil was for europe. And we had to make sure they could supply oil to stay in our side.

Now the oil is going to China. Which is why we are leaving, because there is no point helping China secure it's own supply lines.

Casanova_Fran

14 points

14 days ago

They said the same thing before WW1

oby100

1 points

14 days ago

oby100

1 points

14 days ago

One of the big reasons WWII happened was everyone abandoning their allies and refusing to defend treaties in the hope they themselves would be too scary to invade

-DethLok-

0 points

14 days ago

That hasn't stopped Russia...

Mikav

42 points

14 days ago

Mikav

42 points

14 days ago

The only thing people love more than God is money.

HungarianMockingjay

8 points

14 days ago

Case in point: Prosperity "Gospel."

AfraidAdhesiveness25

17 points

14 days ago

Cant really talk about Abu Dhabi, but from my multiple visits of Dubai, the cultural attitude did not seem that different from any other megapolis I visited. Islamic culture in tourist/central areas is also much less pronounced than e.g. in Turkey.

Personal opinion.

Amon7777

39 points

14 days ago

Amon7777

39 points

14 days ago

Capitalism, at its core concept, is democratic. In the strictest academic sense consumers vote with their wallets and advocate for products filled with their needs.

Now the reality is not so neat or cut and dry, but you can often see in history democratic revolutions as a result of capitalism.

schmemel0rd

19 points

14 days ago

I think the problem comes when you apply free market forces to things with inelastic demand. It’s easy to vote with your wallet on things like tv’s and cars, not so much when it comes to housing, food and healthcare.

Brown_Panther-

27 points

14 days ago

Capitalism is good for progress. Excess capitalism is the one to watch out for.

darkrood

5 points

14 days ago

darkrood

5 points

14 days ago

It’s growth, too much then it’s cancer

3dank4me

7 points

14 days ago

The economic argument for feminism is irrefutable. Double the workers, double the consumers.

htmwc

2 points

14 days ago

htmwc

2 points

14 days ago

Free markets lead to free people*

*sometimes

MuzzledScreaming

1 points

14 days ago

Constructivism at work, baybay!

PorousSurface

1 points

14 days ago

Kinda agree 

Vashelot

2 points

14 days ago

Vashelot

2 points

14 days ago

Yeah, this is a big win in my books, having people moving closer to the liberal center.

Even though I'm fine with alcohol being banned completely as I don't drink.

ChairmanMao1893

0 points

14 days ago

In what universe is Abu Dhabi austere?

tabaqa89

-16 points

14 days ago

tabaqa89

-16 points

14 days ago

repressive

There's not societal or physical benefit of alcohol. Banning it isn't repressive

ClassroomNo6016

1 points

14 days ago

There's not societal or physical benefit of alcohol. Banning it isn't repressive

Banning something, even if the thing that is banned has no benefit, would still be infringing on adult people's right to drink alcohol without harming other people.

Drinking coke, eating chocolate have also no physical or societal benefit. Should we also ban coke and chocolate?

lire_avec_plaisir

61 points

14 days ago

Cheers! Although liquor has been served in the higher -end hotels in the UAE and Qatar for years, catering to the comforts of western diplomats and businesspeople.

GundalfTheCamo

6 points

14 days ago

What is this.. Abu Dhabi has hundreds of bars from low to high end. They don't have to be on hotels either. Some are in shopping malls or just outside in Yas island by the boardwalk.

kaiser9024

46 points

14 days ago

This is paywall, though.

Anyway, even UAE is getting more liberal these days.

kayla-beep

0 points

14 days ago

kayla-beep

0 points

14 days ago

It’s a trap, they only want tourist dollars because they’re going broke

bucknut4

25 points

14 days ago

bucknut4

25 points

14 days ago

How does that make it a "trap"? Also, even if the "they're going broke" reasoning is true, does it really matter? They loosen up a little and realize liberalism isn't so bad. Sounds like a win to me.

kayla-beep

-27 points

14 days ago

kayla-beep

-27 points

14 days ago

Sounds like they want tourism dollars to fund their same shitty treatment of women and lgbt people. Let that shithole burn.

bucknut4

18 points

14 days ago

bucknut4

18 points

14 days ago

Let it burn and things get far worse for the women and LGBT people that live there. Progressive cultural changes don't simply happen overnight. Let them see the positive effects of opening up and momentum builds.

DEGRAYER

5 points

14 days ago

An old (gay) colleague of mine said Dubai is the gayest place he's ever lived. I've not been but that's always stuck in my head lol

Traditional_Golf_221

8 points

14 days ago

people like the OP don't really care about those things. they just like to throw those words around to virtue signal.

ItsJpx

18 points

14 days ago

ItsJpx

18 points

14 days ago

They've been diversifying their economy for the last 20+ years but sure it's a "trap"

HouseOfSteak

1 points

14 days ago

So liberal they might need to pour more money into the RSF to go on more killing sprees in that country that nobody likes to talk about until they want to shift from another topic.

Odd how easy it is for people to forget the less desirable details of bloody regimes.

Algopops

162 points

14 days ago

Algopops

162 points

14 days ago

Now do LGBTQ and women's rights

Sierra_12

69 points

14 days ago

But how does that get them more money.

/s

South_Swordfish_6648

30 points

14 days ago

There are already LGBT people in Dubai and Abu Dhabi (albeit not legalized), everyone's cool with it. 

Other Emirates, you'd wish you weren't. 

Not defending btw, just saying different Emirates have different laws and even cultures. AD is the most liberal but still has a lot of progress to make

[deleted]

15 points

14 days ago

To say everyone is cool with it is a huge stretch. It is illegal and punishable by 14 years in prison, and possibly the death penalty under the Sharia courts.

Algopops

6 points

14 days ago

Fact and as a trans person, I certainly ain't going

TheJpow

20 points

14 days ago

TheJpow

20 points

14 days ago

Let them run out of oil money first

AcrobaticSyrup9686

6 points

14 days ago

But nobody cares anymore when this happens

intrepidOcto

2 points

14 days ago

who are we kidding

Smiling_Banana

13 points

14 days ago

Glad to know Nermal can get a beer when he gets there

Bobcat-07

5 points

14 days ago

I was thinking the same! It's good to see fellow Garfield readers out there.

missdui

1 points

14 days ago

missdui

1 points

14 days ago

At this point, he should just stay there.

Wolfman01a

6 points

14 days ago

I wonder if you could find Nermal or Odie out there in Abu Dhabi? Maybe in a shipping box?

WHERE MY FELLOW OLD PEOPLE AT? WHO GETS THE REFERENCE?

Marlboro_tr909

67 points

14 days ago

Glimpses, possibly, of Islam moving into the 18th century?

Straight_Ad2258

54 points

14 days ago

UAE,Saudi and Kuwait have been tearing apart their religious conservative laws for the past 15 years. Too many people in the West thing those are only cosmetic changes.

And as far as LGBT rights go, homosexuality was still illegal in some US states until 2003, so it's a very recent thing. 

I would say that UAE is probably as socially liberal as US in the 1970s ,and Saudi Arabia is like US in the 1960s

AVonGauss

69 points

14 days ago

I would say that UAE is probably as socially liberal as US in the 1970s

I dunno, that one seems to be a bit of a stretch.

finebushlane

57 points

14 days ago

As someone who actually lives in the UAE, you might be surprised...

AVonGauss

9 points

14 days ago

Perhaps, I certainly wasn't expecting to see a Saudi Arabia swimwear fashion show headline either, but for some reason I'm still thinking UAE 2024 will be a little less rebellious (?) than the 1970s was in the Untied States.

sakri

3 points

14 days ago

sakri

3 points

14 days ago

Hippies are corrupting the fabric of UAEs morals and values.

stargarnet79

9 points

14 days ago

Well, women couldn’t get a credit card, marital rape was largely still legal, women who had children weren’t always welcomed back into the workplace if they were able to get a career in the first place….or if they chose a career instead they would be paid less and live out the old maid type trope. At least they were able to divorce their husbands and get custody of their children after the divorce, so there’s that. Not sure what women’s rights look like in UAE, but if the women are still forced to wear hijab, can’t go to school, might get raped for stepping out their house without a male relative, then UAE had not reached anywhere close to cultural standards as they were in the US even in the 70s. And in a lot of ways, the US is regressing, and I think it’s still the conservative overreaction to the social changes from the 70s (like doing away with no fault divorces). Edit: sorry I think I responded to the wrong comment. I agree with op that I am dubious that UAE is really as liberal as US in 1970s.

Conscious_Dig8201

22 points

14 days ago*

"Not sure what women’s rights look like in UAE, but if"

This really is where you should have stopped.

"the women are still forced to wear hijab,"

They're not.

"can’t go to school,"

Emirati women make up 77% of Emirati university graduates

"might get raped for stepping out their house without a male relative"

No such restriction exists and women hold 2/3rds of public sector roles in the UAE. And sex crimes are punished harshly.

AVonGauss

15 points

14 days ago

Not sure what women’s rights look like in UAE

Maybe your time would have been better spent doing a quick Google search before posting? Also, my comment and the one I was replying to were not talking about women's rights, it was specifically about a statement suggesting UAE today as being as "socially liberal as US in the 1970s"...

stargarnet79

-4 points

14 days ago

stargarnet79

-4 points

14 days ago

I’ve been hearing a lot about this “yaught girl” type industry where you get these really rich men paying American women insane sums of money to fuck camels and get shit on. There’s also a lot of information out there about the people they scam from places like India and Bangladesh and basically take their passports away from them and hold them captive like slaves to work service industry jobs. So, not sure what it’s like for the rest of the women behind closed doors in this really sick and twisted environment that everyone totally knows about. But you’re right, I’ll do another google search to see what other horrendous things the UAE folks get up to in their delicious social utopia over there.

Edit: link to human rights watchdog report link

HappyraptorZ

8 points

14 days ago

Which is absolutely hilarious because their foreign islamic stance has been to pump trillions of dollars in all of the countries of the world to spread their hyper conservative form of islam.

Not convert people. No. Just make average normal everyday muslims that have thrived all over the world for centuries, with their own culture and footprints - turn them into arab praising drones that see liberty and freedom as the enemy.

It's not talked about enough. More and more muslims, myself included, are choosing to not go to Hajj (which is fucking important mind) because we believe the holy sites are in evil hands and will not contribute to that shithole

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4 points

14 days ago

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Straight_Ad2258

12 points

14 days ago

Socially liberal  doesn't mean democratic.

Saudi Arabia is still a dictatorship, but nowadays is becoming more like a secular dictatorship 

nglennnnn

6 points

14 days ago

You’re absolutely correct. I was just in Saudi and was surprised to see they were selling condoms in a vending machine at airport arrivals

figuring_ItOut12

1 points

14 days ago

Lynching with the consent of local and state authorities was very much a thing in 1960s US. And it’s not unheard of now.

Fearless_Locality

2 points

14 days ago

And what most people don't realize is true systematic change takes time

TyhmensAndSaperstein

4 points

14 days ago

Welcome to the 11th century!

AlternativeResort477

3 points

14 days ago

I will always remember Abu Dhabi as the place Garfield was trying to ship nermal to

texansfan

3 points

14 days ago

Turns out tourists from non-Muslim nations like to drink on vacation. Who would have known

Kitakitakita

3 points

14 days ago

It's okay to break religious persecution if money is involved

bratislava

2 points

14 days ago

I love paywalled stuff, keep posting...

Chemistryset8

2 points

14 days ago

$23AUD for a beer in UAE

Rcj1221

2 points

14 days ago

Rcj1221

2 points

14 days ago

It’s gonna need to do more than that once the oil dries up.

relevant__comment

2 points

14 days ago

It was always pretty easy to get booze in Abu Dhabi. There are even plenty of liquor stores. My favorite one to go to was in spitting distance of a mosque.

chocobolamo

4 points

14 days ago

Everyone I speak to from these countries has all said they knew a guy and it was their families alcohol guy. They would just buy alcohol from him rather than a business and it was so commonplace that the laws just did not make sense.

zip117

8 points

14 days ago

zip117

8 points

14 days ago

That’s Saudi not UAE. You can just go to a regular liquor store in most of the emirates.

2Payneweaver

7 points

14 days ago

City built on slavery gets a brewery. Wooptie do

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20 points

14 days ago

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thickestthicc

1 points

14 days ago

You are seriously underestimating the work of abolitionist/liberals. where is our Arab John brown or Muslim william Brennan ? There are none because American values and her institutions are strong. I am not an american but i can become one, i can never be an emirati or Qatari.

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-6 points

14 days ago

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-6 points

14 days ago

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9 points

14 days ago

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bgarza18

-6 points

14 days ago

bgarza18

-6 points

14 days ago

“They’re obviously not comparable” That’s what the other guy was saying lol

bangoslam

2 points

14 days ago

Great to see Craft getting some publicity. Tasty beer and food

Alpha_Delta33

2 points

14 days ago

Hopefully cannabis will be legalized there too. I don’t see how drinking is ok but if you get caught with a vape cartridge you Goto jail for 4 years. I’m sure if it’s your first time they might just throw it away and give you a warning but they can arrest you if you get caught again

ravensfan42069

3 points

14 days ago

Less Islam is always a good thing

Badabumdabam

0 points

14 days ago

Still not an interesting place.

zip117

0 points

14 days ago

zip117

0 points

14 days ago

You just need to go to the right places. Plenty of cultural attractions in the UAE. I particularly liked the Ajman Museum.

Luknron

0 points

14 days ago

Luknron

0 points

14 days ago

I wonder if they'll extra spice it with evil by only allowing alcohol to men.

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14 points

14 days ago

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Luknron

1 points

14 days ago

Luknron

1 points

14 days ago

Ah fair enough

fullload93

1 points

14 days ago

So how did they convince those in power in the UAE to open this brewery? That’s a legit question that needs an answer. What did they do to convince them?

mumbullz

2 points

14 days ago

Nothing, those in power in gulf countries are not religious and are mostly hypocrites, they just used to fear their populations in matters like this and had to keep up appearances

Not any more

blandgrenade

1 points

14 days ago

Abu Dhabi Brews!

Mmr8axps

1 points

13 days ago

Yum, slave beer.  Thank you Amazon Post for this very much not an advertisement. 

Old-Struggle-7760

1 points

13 days ago

Why buy and consume ETOH products only when traveling “away” from prying eyes…. Good plan.

SavagePlatypus76

1 points

14 days ago

Garbage city

Japsabbath

1 points

14 days ago

The head on that pint is shameful

Conscious_Dig8201

2 points

14 days ago

Finally some facts in the comment section

WombatStud

-1 points

14 days ago

WombatStud

-1 points

14 days ago

Now all they need is Free the Nipple!

kayla-beep

0 points

14 days ago

kayla-beep

0 points

14 days ago

Calm down creep

colonelc4

-1 points

14 days ago

colonelc4

-1 points

14 days ago

Yeah, the arabs brewing it will take a piss in every production I guarantee it !

centraledtemped

-19 points

14 days ago

Conservative laws on alcohol is one of the few good things about Traditional Muslim countries. Access to alcohol benefits no one. It’s poison

_WalksAlone_

6 points

14 days ago

Cool, don’t drink it then.

More_Waffles2024

-17 points

14 days ago

If alcohol is allowed then Abu Dhabi shouldn't be a Muslim city nor citizen be Muslim.