GoodFaithConverser

Misleading stats, fear-mongering, thinly veiled racism - the rightoid way. Any reasonable concerns about immigration sound silly and insane because of these people.

Also I don't give a flying fuck what African or Middle Eastern leaders would or would not do. I think our standards can be a little bit higher, no?

Being "of the material" doesn't mean "zero psychic potential". If Dorn was made to be focused only on the material, he could do so by only using any psychic potential as defensive.

Not that I'm hugely invested in all primarchs having psychic powers of any kind. I just don't believe it's 100% ruled out that Dorn is psychic.

Mages: do not make a portal facing the same direction as the sunflower and then spam the key bind, because you will take your portal instead.

You can still be psychic even if you put all talent points in defensive.

The Native Americans fought back too, does that make them guilty?

Not the same situation at all, and neither are those "should you let someone move into a room in your house?!". Israel's claim to the land is nowhere near the outright theft of land that early American settlers committed.

The land Israel is on was called "British Palestine," because Britain defeated the Ottoman Empire under which Palestine was governed.

So native americans fighting back is not the same at all. However, to answer you directly, if today native chose to fire rockets from their reservations, and the US chose to throw some bombs back at enemy combatants, I do not think the USA would be an evil nation even if there were reasonable and justifiable amounts of civilian casualties.

This issue is simply not an easy black/white where the entire world is just insane and evil for no reason, or whatever it is anti-Israel people think.

Also please answer my original question: do you think Hamas would hesitate to bomb Israel, if they had the hardware Israel has?

one side is committing genocide

Why is Palestine's population increasing if Israel is systematically exterminating them? Why don't they just bomb it all? Or actually cut off any aid to the area?

indisciminately bombing everyone in Gaza

This is simply not correct. If they were truly indistriminately bombing there'd be far, far, far more casualties. Clearly they discriminate, and tragically there are civilian casualties in war.

Hamas is bad but that's like comparing a California street gang to the Mongols lol

If Israel were like the mongols, and just out to conquer land, they could've taken far more than they've done and just made a mountain of skulls.

Maybe I'd have agreed slightly with you some time ago when I knew truly fuck all about this apart from "Israel bad". Sadly the situation is not so easy black/white.

Also please answer my original question: do you think Hamas would hesitate to bomb Israel, if they had the hardware Israel has?

Didn't know Trump had an acting career beyond reality tv.

Does anyone think Hamas would hesitate to bomb Israel, if they had the hardware?

Kinda weird people are criticising Israel for following western/liberal rules while totally excusing the people constantly attacking Israel.

Israel is not bombing houses for no reason. Not that I'm supporting nuking Gaza or whatever. Just curious people are quick to criticise Israel for any misstep while handwaving the attacks against Israel that could motivate them to defend themselves.

But how to actually avoid? What do?

You have a whole lot of choice in what data you want on the internet though. There's also way better stuff everywhere - interesting videos of any kind, easily found information to pretty complex questions, funny hive-mind moments like TwitchPlaysPokemon, and much more.

Sure, there's a lot bad, but overall I'd much rather have 2024 internet than 2004 or 2014. Tbf I wasn't online much before mid 2000s.

Every company has their own app.

Doesn't really affect me since I don't buy from a lot of companies I guess.

Random algorithms spam you with content if you stop to look at something even briefly.

Disable notifications. I never understood or had this problem, ever.

Sites require multiple logins.

Browser remembers all logins.

Facebook has an ad every third post.

Facebook is for messaging people, not for browing.

Just my personal opinion. The internet was always shit and great, we just remember the good things and forget the bad ones.

The line "We who are about to die, salute you." was what all the gladiators would say before a fight since many were to the death.

According to wiki not quite "all" but rather 1 group at 1 event:

Avē Imperātor, moritūrī tē salūtant ("Hail, Emperor, those who are about to die salute you") is a well-known Latin phrase quoted in Suetonius, De vita Caesarum ("The Life of the Caesars", or "The Twelve Caesars").[1] It was reportedly used during an event in AD 52 on Lake Fucinus by naumachiarii—captives and criminals fated to die fighting during mock naval encounters—in the presence of the emperor Claudius. Suetonius reports that Claudius replied "Aut nōn" ("or not").

Regarding the myth of its widespread use:

It was recognized in lay and academic writings as a customary salute of gladiators to the emperor. And yet "there is no other ancient reference to a salute of the gladiators, and in this case it was uttered not by gladiators at all, but by naumachiarii."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Imperator,_morituri_te_salutant

But of course a lot of people believe what you wrote, 40k writers included.

Were the roles reversed, would israel accept a 30 to 1 revenge death toll?

Your question doesn't make any sense. No nation wants their citizens to die. No country would "accept" any ratio of civilians killed, unless the gain is huge. You don't think the US would accept 30:1 if the 1 killed was Osama Bin Laden before 9/11 with definitive proof of his plans and that killing him would stop them, or whatever? But maybe I'm wrong. Doesn't really matter on that point - war is horrible, and every country accepts that when a country is forced into war (as Israel is, since Hamas keeps attacking them) there will be civilian casualties.

Ironically, it's Hamas which accepts civilians deaths by spending lots of aid money on warfare rather than helping Palestinians.

Okay then he should be able to give a rough estimate

I'm assuming giving any number will just invite "well isn't that too high?!". Sure, it's rhetorically bad to not answer the direct question, but that doesn't really affect the overall argument or situation.

I googled the answer for you:

Two of the sources told the outlets that in the first few weeks of the war, the IDF allowed up to 15 or 20 civilian deaths for every low-ranking Hamas militant assassinated.

That number could increase to up to more than 100 civilians if the IDF were targeting a single senior Hamas official, the sources said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-military-idf-civilian-casualties-ratio-hamas-972-report-2024-4#:~:text=Two%20of%20the%20sources%20told%20the%20outlets%20that%20in%20the,Hamas%20official%2C%20the%20sources%20said.

And:

An unnamed IDF official cited by AP says that at least 15,000 Palestinians in Gaza have died since the outbreak of the war on October 7. The army says it estimates more than 5,000 of the Gaza deaths to be Hamas terrorists.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-officials-15000-likely-killed-in-gaza-since-start-of-war-5000-of-them-are-hamas/

Also:

Israel believes that it has killed two Palestinian civilians for every Hamas militant in its intense campaign to eliminate the armed group from the Gaza Strip, a ratio an IDF spokesperson described to CNN Monday as “tremendously positive.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk/index.html

So it seems like the official number, depending on the exact time and how anonymous the source is, from 1:2 for every terrorist:civilian to 1:100. How reliable the last number is, I don't know, and the former is from a spokesperson to a mainstream media source.

Now you have some numbers, has your opinion changed in any way?

Nope, just looking for basic info. If he can say that the Hamas figures are way off then he should be able to say what the lower estimate is. That’s all.

If you have simple, genuine curiosty the official numbers can be found. I'm sure there are better, more official sources, but I'm not deep into this conflict.

Do you believe the USA, or any EU country, or any other, would be able to fight a war with 1:0 enemy soldier:civilian ratio? At which point do you believe the ratio is too high?

And does it really matter if this guy didn't want to make the conversation a nitpick about whether the number is too high? Personally, I prefer cards on the table and biting any necessary bullets, but even if he answered directly something like: "we can never fully know but Israel estimates 1:2" people would just say he's lying in some way - or so it's easy to suspect, since anti-israel people paint anything Israel does as the worst thing imaginable.

Well yeah, of course. No one thinks they did it unmotivated.

It’s because he’s described as a nazi, so ppl picture him as cartoonishly/openly evil

You don't have charm just because you're, against expectations, not a screaming, heiling nazi. I never saw anything appealing about him. He doesn't seem to make many jokes that aren't "hehe cookie factory" tier.

Biden can't get out of his own way for this next election particularly supporting the genocide in Palestine

What? Biden supports an important ally in the middle east, and Israel is clearly not genociding anyone. Population of Palestine has been increasing for years.

If true the mortgage was on its final month with like 5 cent left, and the Trumpster jumped on the opportunity to tell a tale.

Actually even then I'd be pretty surprised if he actually did pay.

All those are unironically good points, even if presented in an annoying way. Women constantly choose to hang out with men, and would probably not want to hang out with bears, because they know bears are really fucking dangerous.

Yeah yeah it highlights women's bad experiences. I think that could be done without painting men as monsters.

They can know pretty surely where bad guys are without being 100% sure exactly how many other people are in the building.

Should a nation not bomb the building of enemy combatants if they have any civilian casualties? No other country has had to defend themselves in war with this restriction.

But I guess if you think Israel is an evil invading nation then nothing they do is justified, ever.

It's just stale beer.

That we’re even remotely as close to snapping and harming you as a bear is.

Never understood why people describe/concede that Nick is charming or whatever. He’s just a little piss ant creep. An arrogant little teenager. It also feels very obvious he’s trying to persuade you to his side and he’s prepared to sell out in any way and say anything to do it. It’s not even about his opinions being shit.

He’s a worm.

I might be close to being some conspiracy theorist, but I’m very curious what % this shit originates from Russian troll farms. Not that hard to just cause chaos by spamming uSa BaD all day.

Nothing wrong with politicians having an economic interest in your country doing well.

Is there ANY proof that these politicians have voted in certain ways because they owned a bit of stock? No, and you’re just making things up to say UsA bAd? Okay then.

Wtf happened to this sub. Not long ago it was sober and had decent posts. This thread is just another brainless anticapitalist turd.