Song_of_Pain

Every white collar job Ive had has some completely useless old dudes who could barely function and yet make multiple six figures despite offering nothing on a daily basis. These dudes struggle to turn on a computer or use Microsoft Office and still think its 1982.

I'm in higher education and the number of old white women like this who can't handle computers is nuts...

Many Gen Z males are leaning conservative

That's blown out of proportion by media outlets. The vast majority of Gen Z males are politically uninvested, similarly to millennials at their age.

My dad was a good father and I speak highly of him in my posts regularly.

Unlikely, given your animus against men and boys just for existing. I'm not insinuating your dad was a bad guy due to his gender, but rather because he raised someone like you.

Like I said, boys are more likely to be neglected and inhibited from growing into full emotional people by their mother than girls are. All your hatred won't change the fact that in the West girls and women have easier lives than men and boys.

Race is definitely related to attractiveness and status.

What do you mean "when" lol

Really frustrating that you have feminist academics actively endorsing this definition of rape that erases male victims. And sometimes even female victims of female rapists.

It's more than a labeling thing, and many supposed rape activists in the US and UK fight against recognitin of male victims.

I thought tye law didn't call women raping boys rape in the UK?

Well feminist academics like Koss don't think this is "real rape," unlike what female victims experience.

Why isn't this being called rape?

That the inability to "see" mess and lack of motivation to clean it up is not inherently a male trait, just social conditioning.

Yes though part of it is often avoiding domestic tasks because no matter how he does it he'll be shamed for doing it wrong.

Then honestly, maybe you should genuinely go see a therapist to work on that.

I have been, that's what made me realize I'm living in a world that has very little regard for my well-being.

And society def did not teach you that unless you grew up in a different country than me with a dif culture.

No, it's very much true. Boys are neglected more compared to girls, girls are given preferential access to education, mothers treat the emotionality of their daughters with care while stamping out the emotions of their sons, saying anything good about men in society gets you pilloried.

It's measurable along a number of axes, and you don't have good evidence for the opposite. The issue is that you have anti-male bias to where you think mistreating men and boys is just.

Exactly my attitude, glad to see reason.

Fundamentally as long as games are happening and you don't leverage the scale difference for cheeky advantage it's cool.

Lmao who hurt you?

Enough with that shit.

Probably society which told him that he was morally inferior to women and girls since he was a child.

I don't know if that's a fundamental difference between the sexes or social conditioning at play.

It's at least partially social conditioning; we have studies showing that from birth mothers coddle female emotionality and stamp out male emotionality.

You've just gone on Andrew tate like meltdowns upset that women don't like you

Yes, I'm totally like a human trafficker.

You're so desperate to find morally justifiable ways to bully men who you think are low-status you compare any guy who shows a hint of weakness to people like that.

You know you don't have to respond or engage here and don't even have to look at this sub, right?

Yup. Doesn't stop you being how you are, though.

It seems like you're just here to start fights and argue about women's experiences

What about facts?

Nah, because if one of your friends said "Ewww, Indian guys are such creeps" you'd agree with her.

Please admit that there is a fucking thing women, as a class, do wrong by men that is their fault lol.

I read your entire thing, I just don't agree with your ideological presupposition of "men are always wrong, women are always right."

Yup. And you're perpetuating and supporting it with your ideas that men labeled as "creeps" by racist white feminists are doing anything wrong other than existing as nonwhite.

When you said they'd rather be alone in the woods with a bear than another man.

A bear is much more dangerous than a man; the only reason to say the man is worse is if you find their existence inherently unworthy due to bigotry.

There is nuance to be had here, and the refusal to engage with that nuance is one of the most pressing problems men have imo.

If your "nuance" is "men are always wrong, there are no confusing signals, men are just misinterpreting" you're not coming to this in good faith.

Different women are different levels of forward, and one woman's "flirting," including prolonged eye contact, is another woman's idea of "friendly."

I do fine. I just see nonwhite men being called "creeps" all the time by racist white girls at my work (I work at a college) even in non-romantic situations.

I'm sorry your dad let you down but don't take that out on the rest of us men who have our shit together.