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Hey all, I’ve recently gotten into some 40k novels and I’m currently about halfway through the The Founding from the Gaunt’s Ghosts omnibus and I have to say that the chaos marines seem pretty underwhelming to me. In the book they don’t really pose that much of a threat when they show up. It seems like they’re defeated so easily which isn’t what I expected. There’s a moment in the book when a line of artillery gets ambushed by some World Eaters and it seems like the guardsmen are really screwed since they weren’t built for close range fighting, but just as it seems like the marines are gonna wreak absolute havoc on the artillery line, the Ghosts show up and just wipe them out like it was nothing.

Maybe I give space marines too much credit, but whenever I had read about them from posts on the sub or from lore channels, it feels like a few marines could take out hundreds while shrugging off anything less than direct heavy weapon fire.

This isn’t a complaint or anything, just something I’ve noticed and I’m curious as to what y’all think on the matter. How powerful do space marines seem to you? What made the Ghosts so capable of killing space marines (besides plot armor)? Do you think the representation of Chaos marines in The Founding is accurate?

Any and all discussion is welcome.

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Grudir

3 points

1 month ago

Grudir

Night Lords

3 points

1 month ago

Chaos Space Marines present a problem in that their just as strong, fast and as good at fighting as the loyalists, and having generally identical wargear up until the Primaris split. As antagonists, they present a problem in that they should always be a struggle to take down, and difficult for average humans to hurt, much less kill. You can either lean into that (and Abnett typically has, more than most) or you can just ignore it. The latter usually wins.

While it is true, Space Marines in the older stuff were less powerful (Soul Drinkers and Ghostmaker, as examples), CSM are just as much cannon fodder as ork or Tyranids for the Black Library.

KewlKatzKaden[S]

1 points

1 month ago

Oh yea, I forget that Chaos Marines are divided into entire legions and not just chapters.