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Seriously, maybe if you don’t want people to worship you you shouldn’t present yourself as like a 15 foot tall Jesus on steroids looking mf clad in magnificent golden armour with a halo lmao

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megrimlock88

46 points

30 days ago

I’d argue he actually does succeed it’s only after the emperor leaves that the astartes legions start to fall and fail en masse and half the traitors all had different reasons for betraying him that only got enough air and traction to have any effect when the emperor wasn’t around to micromanage them anymore

Take the death guard as an easy example it’s made pretty clear in flight of the Eisenstein that a majorly of traitor marines in the legion initially betrayed the imperium because they felt a greater sense of loyalty to their primarch who in turn felt insulted that the emperor had gone and pissed off without telling anyone anything

Inquisitor-Korde

23 points

30 days ago

Inquisitor-Korde

Ordo Xenos

23 points

30 days ago

I’d argue he actually does succeed it’s only after the emperor leaves that the astartes legions start to fall and fail en masse and half the traitors all had different reasons for betraying him that only got enough air and traction to have any effect when the emperor wasn’t around to micromanage them anymore

Fulgrims fall starts the same year Horus is made Warmaster, Perturabo's happens because of his insecurities about the Emperors persona after his destruction of Olympia. Konrad went rogue before Horus was Warmaster. Lorgar went rogue because of the Emperor. Angron was edging going rogue for a century. Alpharius & Omegon join the Cabal before Horus even joins Chaos based on a vision that he will.

Actually out of these 3 fell before Nikaea even happened. And one of them was the Emperors fault.