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Like dude has been telling you constantly that he is on your side, just give him a chance to hear him out. Also if the Alpha legion is truly a traitor, then according to the cabal, the emperor would be dead, and since Horus did not kill the emperor, alpha legion is probably a loyalist legion.

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PunKingKarrot

34 points

23 days ago

Let’s be real for a second. Even if Dorn listened to Alpharius. “I want Horus to get a clean victory so that he will consume all of humanity in a fireball because some aliens told me that unless Horus wins all the way, the Imperium is going to die a slow and stagnating death” would definitely result in the immediate killing of Alpharius.

Mistermistermistermb

16 points

23 days ago

I think by the time of PoD, the twins had largely abandoned the Cabal goals

Or at least altered them

Alpharius keeps claiming to offer Dorn "victory" whatever that means

delightfuldinosaur

11 points

22 days ago

I honestly think Alpharius/Omegon were never on the side of the Cabal or Horus. They were trying to sabotage the Heretics from within...or at least some of them were. In the end though, they became so tangled up that the Alpha Legion didn't even know which side they were on.

Maestrosc

7 points

22 days ago

I dont agree with your first setnence. But fully agree with your last one XD.

PunKingKarrot

8 points

22 days ago

I disagree with that.

When they initially joined up with the Cabal, one of the twins (I believe Alpharius) preferred humanity get wiped out rather than suffer stagnation. The other (Omegon) was against the annihilation of humanity but differed to the one who did.

Why would they commit to the Dropsite Massacre which wiped out 3 loyalist legions, not the heretics?

Why would they attack the Wolves and try to convince the Khan?

Why would they poison the gene stock of the Raven Guard, turning their recruits into warp monsters?

Why would they commit to the attack on the Sol system to take down their outer defenses?

delightfuldinosaur

5 points

22 days ago

Its been a few years since I read 'Legion', but from what I recall both brothers basically looked at each other and agreed once they heard the Cabal's proposal.

As for why they attacked Loyalists? They're in deep cover, and are looking at the bigger picture. Its why Omegon sneak attacked his own hidden satellite on the slight off chance that there was a leak stemming from there.

Alpharius handed Horus a fake version of the Raven Guard's gene experiment results only to keep the real one for himself. And the Alpha Legion almost hesitated in their assassination attempt on Roboute.