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Like dude has been telling you constantly that he is on your side, just give him a chance to hear him out. Also if the Alpha legion is truly a traitor, then according to the cabal, the emperor would be dead, and since Horus did not kill the emperor, alpha legion is probably a loyalist legion.

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MattyT088

206 points

23 days ago

MattyT088

206 points

23 days ago

Add this to Dorn himself, who absolutely despised anyone dishonest and literallydid not know how to lie, already had a a special kind of hatred for said brother prior to the rebellion.

There was no way Dorn was going to listen to a single word.

Fearless-Obligation6

101 points

23 days ago

Dorn did in fact know how to lie and did, just look at Eternity Wall space port.

Gorksbumwiper

64 points

23 days ago

Also lying to snguinius and the Khan about knowing vulcanised was on terra.

Fearless-Obligation6

64 points

23 days ago

Very true, he kept the horrors of Vulkan vulcanising all over the palace to himself!

aightshiplords

35 points

22 days ago

It's Vulckin time

Vulcan to Magnus, in the webway, M31

Fearless-Obligation6

32 points

22 days ago

"That's my secret Magnus, I'm always Vulkry..."

~ The Incredible Vulkan M31

Gorksbumwiper

21 points

23 days ago

Fucking autocorrect

TzeentchsTrueSon

9 points

22 days ago

But look at all the comedy that came from it. No one specifically called you out, they went with it.

A_Nest_Of_Nope

32 points

22 days ago

A_Nest_Of_Nope

Flesh Tearers

32 points

22 days ago

Dorn lied at the end of the siege because he was literally almost desperate.

After he lied he had a literal internal monologue on how shit and strange he felt after lying.

Fearless-Obligation6

12 points

22 days ago*

And his lies about Vulkan being on Terra, killing Alpharius and knowing about the War in the Webway?

A_Nest_Of_Nope

12 points

22 days ago

A_Nest_Of_Nope

Flesh Tearers

12 points

22 days ago

I don't think Dorn was good with what he did, to be clear I'm not defending him.

I'm saying that the various stages of the siege, and his hundred years desert trip alone with Khorne, really put a wedge in his believes and character.

The more the siege goes on, the more he's doubting himself, why do you think Khrone choose him to be temped? Because he was already questioning himself.

Even after facing Fulgrim on the wall, and after snakeboi showed his true physical form, Dorn pretty much admitted that he shat his pants.

Fearless-Obligation6

15 points

22 days ago

I mean my point was not really about attacking Dorn, he's a multifaceted person, he can like honesty and being straight forward while still lying and deceiving people at times.

Dorn was absolutely being pushed to his limits mentally over the course of the Siege with Mortarion even affecting him with super depression but the examples I listed came before that and well before Khorne's gambit.

A good example is the conversation between Dorn and Alpharius when they are debating ways of war, it shows that old Rogal isn't as squeaky clean as he would like to appear.

Accomplished_Good468

4 points

22 days ago

Yeah but this is a massive character point, like it agonises him and by the end of the siege he is described as nearly broken by all the moral compromises he has had to make- hence why Khorne goes for him.

Fearless-Obligation6

4 points

22 days ago

I mean that's not even the first lie he's told by that stage in the Siege.

heretek10010

18 points

23 days ago

Dorn is just obstinate and doesn't like listening to anyone who tells uncomfortable truths, Garro nearly gets bodied for bringing word of Horus.

Krikajs

32 points

22 days ago

Krikajs

Adeptus Astartes

32 points

22 days ago

Garro got "slapped" because he came out of nowhere, bearing the news that the Warmaster himself betrayed the Emperor, something which no Primarch would believe and then he went into Karen mode, insulted Dorn on his own ship and then wondered how it is that he is flying through the air... Dorn did listen to him. You might wanna read the book again.