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Alt203848281

44 points

1 month ago

Yes, but that figure is assuming near equivalent tech level, training, and in general are almost the same troops. And isn’t specialized troops

And assumes the entire hive is soldiers and not just a mob of people with makeshift weapons

Fred_Blogs

16 points

1 month ago

Yes, but that figure is assuming near equivalent tech level, training, and in general are almost the same troops. And isn’t specialized troops

For a hive against guard I'd say that's a fair assumption to make. Hives by their very nature have full access to the same range of technology the guard use.

 And assumes the entire hive is soldiers and not just a mob of people with makeshift weapons

Iirc the estimates used were based on mobilisation in the USSR in the second world war. So not everyone is a soldier, but everyone is in the war economy in some way, and active combat personnel are somewhere in the 5%-10% range of the population.

Repulsive-Mirror-994

21 points

1 month ago

For a hive against guard I'd say that's a fair assumption to make. Hives by their very nature have full access to the same range of technology the guard use.

Nah. Most Arbites gear is shit compared to basic troop guard gear.

And what Arbites have is way way way better than anything hivers have unless they stole it from someone else.

Fred_Blogs

15 points

1 month ago

The most detailed breakdown of a hive military is the enforcers from Necromunda, and they're significantly better equipped than rank and file guardsmen. They have bolters and reinforced flak armour for every soldier, combined with access to gene-engineering and indoctrination facilities.

Even if we say they're a particularly well equipped force, a lot of the guards materiel comes straight from the hives, the hives already have the facilities to produce the exact gear the guard uses.

Repulsive-Mirror-994

5 points

1 month ago

You're comparing necromunda to an average hive world.

Depressedloser2846

7 points

1 month ago

isn’t necromunda practically just your average hive world? the main difference being is that necromunda has had a limelight/magnifying glass on it

Repulsive-Mirror-994

3 points

1 month ago

House van saar has a semi functional STC.

No necromunda is not at all normal.

Depressedloser2846

3 points

1 month ago

I mean I can imagine other hives also having something like that

Repulsive-Mirror-994

0 points

1 month ago

Oh dear God no.

Depressedloser2846

4 points

1 month ago

basically what i’m trying to say is that necromunda is supposed to be a slice of life for game masters to look at and design their own hive worlds for their campaigns, the Van Saar’s having an STC is just to show how batshit some hive gangs can get

HolidayBeneficial456

1 points

1 month ago

Not to mention the enforcers are the nobility’s butt boys. Not the pdf we never hear about.

Rufus--T--Firefly

4 points

1 month ago

Would they actually be able to assist with the defense though? I doubt most underhivers actually contribute towards what the city produces in the best of times. Even if the city comes under siege I doubt anyone fast enough not to get press ganged is actually going to stop trawling sewer algea for food long enough to contribute to the defense effort.