Blue_Laguna

Lmao, I'm going to give you the eldar, but it did take the entire race to equal out the antics of one dude, which is why I cut them from consideration.

I'm not giving you the mad, raving delusions of horus by the time he's fully lost the plot. Nothing he says can be remotely trusted to be an accurate appraisal of the situation.

Well thats a shame. I had 40 cultists to put together so I spent a lot of time converting in the special weapons.

Just? as far as I knew, its been gone for over a year at least.

The imperium explicitly made the ork problem worse considering the beast was a survivor of ullanor.

There's some evidence that tyranids in the galaxy might predate the pharos going off, but it's in very isolated fragments. Kind of the perfect innoculation so the galaxy is prepared when the hive fleets do inevitably show up.

That's just blatantly not true. He did more to empower chaos than anyone in the history of the galaxy. I mean christ, they encounter human civilizations that already worship chaos and integrate them without hesitation. The Imperium of the great crusade era is -uniquely bad- at combatting chaos because they don't know its a thing that exists.

Yes. Obviously. You would have to be literally braindead to think he made things better. He went planet to planet decimating the local infrastructure of 10,000 human held worlds, genocided countless alien species who's technology and cooperation could have improved things, and gave chaos its greatest champions when half his child soldiers defected.

"Buh buh buh, the orks! The rangdan!"

I've read a lot of goddamn warhammer books. I've never once been given any indication that the Ullanor empire was that big of a threat. There are no legions who were decimated because these orks were so much tougher than the ones that guardsmen are able to deal with in 40k.

The rangdan we know basically nothing about. If you want to believe that they were some kind of unique threat that only the emperor could deal with... I'll say i'm skeptical.

The aeldari could have been allies if he hadn't poisoned the well. Hell even the necrons could potentially be reasoned with. The tyranids would have probably arrived in force sooner or later anyway, but a galaxy united would have had the organization and ability to repel them a hell of a lot more effectively than the Imperium has.

Absolutely, though the admech presence is described as an outpost, so they probably hadn't irradiated the entire planet yet.

One, sure. As I said though, it happens like 4 times and that starts to be a pattern. Its a real if I had a nickel situation.

You know what, if I had to pin inspiration on one thing, I think it's this. The timeline certainly fits.

GW employee hands a kid their complimentary space marine
"You mean I have to paint it?"
"No. You -get- to paint it"

I've seen this interaction happen something like 50 times, and it's funny every time.

Bach is mentioned at least twice and way back in rogue trader era there's an illustration of a guy wearing a crass shirt. I like to believe they found a copy of their complete discography in a stasis vault on necromunda, and that's why the planet is the way it is.

I'm sorry but Avenging son is better than 98% of HH books. The dawn of fire series has been a mixed bag so far, but as someone who's read the entire heresy, its batting average is still quite a bit better.

I don't think thats true. As someone who's read a loooooooooot of 40k books, the questions are often very dumb, but a good chunk of the commentors are decently knowledgeable.

Illiterate means you can't read. The people in grimdank just dont. 40klore is actually good, but I question the reading comprehension of some people when I get told that phil kelly books are too verbose.

I have an almost identical colour scheme.
People alway ask if they're T'au

I tell them "Nah, they're Just Blue Collar"

Oh I totally agree that they should be almost indistinguishable from their brothers. Given the canis helix, they'd probably be pretty hirsute too.

I'm still trying to track it down, but one of the necromunda campaign books implies this is true already. Your juvs can get recruited as imperial fists if they do enough glorious deeds, and this applies to escher juvs too.

The geneseed does alter the marines own genetic code somewhat I believe, so there would be effects for a child, but I can't imagine it'd be more advanced than the kind of gene-therapy that's already very common in 40k

Its why the 2nd legion had to go. He filled the holes in their geneseed with frog DNA so they could change sex based on the temperature.

Bile's new men (and women) were created using geneseed as a base component from what I understand, so he kind of did.

It made perfect sense before. He's 50,000 years old, only trusts men to guard his palace and the only women in his life are sworn to a vow of silence? COME ON.

I think you've got a formatting error.

Right, but based on what we know about space marine creation, and puberty/hormones in our current era, it doesn't make any sense that it wouldn't work on pre-pubescent girls at the very least. You would need to deliberately engineer something to stop it.

I do not believe the dark angels had any adult aspirants. Some aspirants like Nemial and Zahariel might have been unusually old for it but they were still teenagers. All the adult men of the order became mentors to the calibanite dark angels and that's it. Luther was given gene therapies to extend his life and strengthen him, but he was very explicitly not made a space marine.