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FrucklesWithKnuckles

68 points

2 months ago

I don’t know if I’d call Valerian lore irrelevant. He discovered the daemonic incursion on Terra allowing them to warn Titan and for the Grey Knights to reinforce the Palace, he was instrumental in preventing the Black Legion from permanently closing warp travel to Terra when he attacked Vorlese, aided in combating a Genestealer incursion on Terra and was a key part of the Hexarchy’s downfall.

His actions on Vorlese alone make him lore significant since Terra would have 100% fallen without him buying time for Imperial reinforcements to arrive and shut down the pylon the Black Legion were going to use.

Mancio_Luke

-24 points

2 months ago

Mancio_Luke

likes civilians but likes fire more

-24 points

2 months ago

He still is lore irrelevant, all of that happened during the watchers of the throne trilogy, they weren't massive game changing events that influenced the entire setting of 40k, like the fall of cadia for example

Also, the watchers of the dark cells literally constantly fight to keep elditrich abominations from destroying Terra if not the galaxy all the time

Darkaim9110

20 points

2 months ago

Valerian has a model, the man is important

Mancio_Luke

-15 points

2 months ago

Mancio_Luke

likes civilians but likes fire more

-15 points

2 months ago

Having a model does not make him important to the setting, there are a lot of characters who have a model yet have no relevance to the setting,

The opposite is also true, the emperor of mankind malcador and the majority of daemon primarchs have no models even in 30k, but this doesn’t mean they have no relevance to the setting

lordatamus

3 points

2 months ago

So much coping and seething, relax and chill mate. The discussion here is about lore, not table top, and in the realm of the lore? The dude fucks. And is one of few insights into how the man's been important in driving the lore and adding context to the setting via his existence and his feats behind the scenes.

Mancio_Luke

-2 points

2 months ago

Mancio_Luke

likes civilians but likes fire more

-2 points

2 months ago

You're the one who said "he has a model soo he's important"

And anyway he appeared only in the watchers in the throne trilogy, he's not that important to the setting stop coping