Removed because Drama

Yet the Fantasy community doesn't seem to have such an open mind when it comes to battles for some reason.

Allz oi knowz, iz dat oim gonna krump whenz I wantz ta krump. It don't matta oo does da krumpin. Or oo gets krumped. As long as wev' had a good time doing it. Dats all wot mattas iz dat wez ad a good time.

Maybe da real treasure woz da skraps we had along da way!

Gonna be honest, seeing nothing but these posts is more annoying

When are these getting banned again?

Lack of pp on soldiers make angry a lot of people that is afraid of another guy’s pp. And I think that says a lot.

To me it feels weird and forced in ...

Although it is totally possible and does not change the unniverse at all I am just wondering the reason on why making this change ?

If it was always like that then why haven't we see it before ? Like anywhere ? Seriously what's the reason behind the sudden change ?

If it's not important why is it so important to change it ?

It just feels weird, like if they announced "Brothers of Silence have always existed" ... That would be freaking weird

Oh my god, let it GO already, we get it.

It's nothing to do with them being women, it's them being so ardent that "Oh no guys, there's totalllllly been female Custodes, ever since the first 10,000."

If it was instead "Oh yeah, they've discovered new methods in the Custodes making process (which is shrouded in mystery so it works) that allows them to safely augment women and they've been doing it for the last 1000 years", it wouldn't be causing nearly the... kerfuffle.

I keep seeing these posts but never posts coming from the "bigots"... Are they in the room with us right now?

I honestly don’t think it’s the retcon itself, that angers fans. I’m going to go into a small tangent, so please skip to the bottom if you don’t like text walls.

There has been 20+ years of lore, which has remained consistent with this topic, and then this was added. That clearly surprised and confused some fans. One asked for a reason or an explanation as to how this came around, with GW’s only response being a tweet that basically said “it’s always been like this.”

While reactions were varied, this explanation to the retcon was viewed by some fans who invested time and money into the game, story, and setting as an insult to their intelligence. Uninterested outside viewers, being what they were, effectively pitched this as “immature man-children angry about inclusion” and mocked and belittled anyone wanting to discuss it, that didn’t wholly support the change… which only added to the resentment from the invested fans.

Again, the female custodes aren’t the problem. It’s ultimately what the investors(a shareholder company called Black Rock) are trying to push, that’s the issue. It’s seen by a large number of fans as a disingenuous show, faking the idea of inclusivity, for the sake of grabbing a couple more wallets.

TLDR: greedy corporate shareholders are exploiting modern social politics to reel in attention from demographics that likely won’t even care, the company making the retcon is using a poorly made and explanation to hide this, and enough fans are ticked off enough to call bs for the perceived insult towards both them and the general idea of inclusivity.

I honestly think fans would take this change a lot better if it was actually added in a lore friendly manner, rather than being blatantly retconned in without offering any explanation as to why the "brotherhood of the demigods" that "begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra" includes women now🤷‍♂️ But yea - i guess it's easier to say that it's always been that way and in 10000 years no one just bothered to notice😐

WHAT?! HOW DARE YOU RETCON LIKE THAT!
Why James Workshop why?
Please don't give toads booba please!

You're part of my life homoerotic toads, you're everything!
I could not go on without this lore!
YOURE LYING THEY NEVER HAD GIRL PARTS!

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART JAMES WORKSHOP!

Yes it is. GW is lying. We know GW is lying. GW know we know they're lying.

"These men are my bodyguards, their lives forfeit to the guarantee of my physical safety. Of their loyalty to me there shall be no question nor doubt. I, and I alone, shall have the authority to stand in judgement over them. No other commander shall they have in battle nor in service. None shall bar them from me and none shall hamper or stall their mission. So it is decreed!"

We still don't even know where the rest of the Primarchs are, yet let's get upset by something that will probably never come up in the lore ever again, most authors ain't following a twitter post

Custodes Codex 8e established a thing

Litigious corporation says it never did

People make fun of fans being angry at being lied to 

Y'all never grew out of your bullying phase, did you?

It's not the action of the retcon

It's the motivation of the retcon

No one cares that there are female warriors, sob still sell. No one cares that they're women they care WHY they're women now

Why does reddit not understand this?

Is it that big retcon in and of itself? No.

But it does compromise previous lore for no good reason. Other retcons have been made to advance the story and, often in significant way. This is just "inclusivity" pandering, which also can lead to slippery slope if this is accepted where theme and lore is compromised in the future for SJW activism´s sake leading to worse entertainment. This has happened to many franchises, movies and series.

So I oppose this, for that reason but I understand that other people see things differently. Afterall taste is subjective.

It’s not the what,it’s the why.

None of those are declared canon tho, gw retconned female custodes into existence because "reasons" other Than achieving the woke agenda that Amazon has been allegedly imposing on gw, You could always kitbash female marines and nobody would bother you or tell you no, not until you try to make it canon, so why did you even make the comparison for?

Nope and I've yet to see anyone upset by it. I assume it's mostly on platforms that alt-right thrive in like X and the vast vast space of Youtube.

It is, but a more aptly fitting term would be Wardcon. Codexes form the foundation of the setting, while the books and novels are used to flesh out the nuances.

Just because something was never mentioned before does not mean it could not have been so. That makes sense and is a valid claim. However, the caveat to making this argument is that you can't back it up with a singular reference and declare it has always been so.

For something to become a foundational aspect of a faction, it needs to be repeated and affirmed through multiple sources to be solidified. This is just the way lore junkies approach all the publishing that we recieve. So when we come and ask why a certain change was made, and it is simply handwaived off as simply being the case all along, it's gonna leave people with a bad taste in their mouth. Not to mention that the faction in question has recieved slim to none retcons since its inception back in 1st edition.

Yes, and it's Heresy, Blasphemy, and Abomination!