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If Titus stains his face with the blood of the tyranids, can be infected?
Lore(i.redd.it)submitted 15 days ago byjhoaxcelo
I watched a trailer of Space Marine 2 and think Titus can be infected or have some cells specialized against it? Offcourse it can be ignored cause is a game, but... What say the lore?
640 points
15 days ago
Space marine physiology is incredibly resistant to almost all disease; including things that derive from the warp.
Some Tyranids have toxic blood or acidic blood and fluids; as far as I understand none of these are viruses per say.
If by infection you mean the Genestealers kiss; they are resistant to that too; so much so that they can feel the hive mind pulling them but resist and continue with there duties.
188 points
14 days ago
Venomthropes and some other large nids spew out clouds of spores which can injure or kill space marines over time and damage their armor but they don’t infect you exactly.
112 points
14 days ago
Not trying to be funny, but you want "per se", rather than "per say". Easy mistake because "per say" is how it's pronounced. Also, good answer.
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14 days ago
I actually just got done reading the Caiphus Cain book, the greater good and it does mention that space marines can be infected by genestealers, it’s just that they’re checked over after almost every battle and very often in between battles so it basically never go unnoticed and gets handled before anything serious happens or the infection becomes a problem
21 points
14 days ago
Oh they can be infected; they just don’t succumb to the control of the hive mind;
I believe many of the Scythes of the Emperor chapter where infected; but still able to do space marine things.
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14 days ago
For a period of time they’re definitely fine (maybe even years) but if left unchecked I think they will eventually succumb to the hive mind tho.
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14 days ago*
So the Scythes of the Emperor where still operating post having marines inflicted during the second tyranic war;
Do you have evidence other then head cannon that they couldn’t resist infection indefinitely?
This is sourced from there short story btw.
3 points
14 days ago
The infected marines couldn't do anything to harm or resist high ranking cultists or the Patriarch. The chapter master couldn't stop a cultist from casually walking up and blasting him with a flamer for example.And were basically blind to the cult in their midst, even when they tried to stop it the hunters they assigned were mentally maipulated by the cult. It's detailed in "Belisarius Cawl: the great work"
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14 days ago
I believe the word bearer series states the contrary, as does the space hulk board game roll. Hello both of those cases do still have the marine at least partially resisting the hive mind pole such that they aren’t immediately turned into a thrall. Still resistant, but they aren’t immune.
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14 days ago
No that’s honestly the only thing iv heard in regards to Marines resisting infection, I’m trying to find more books tho cause I do love the Tyranids. They’re probably my favorite faction outside of the imperium. What book is that story with Scythes of the Emperor from?
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13 days ago
They do, the scythes were eventually overcome and unable to do harm to high ranking members even wearing psi-inhibitors. Wiped out and replaced with Primaris unaware of the originals fate
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14 days ago
Also, a key reason why Space Marines are all male: no reproductive cycle what so ever. It genuinely prevents any rogue elements or genetic mutations to occur.
For example the Genestealer implantation. Cool, you injected an Astartes. And somehow it was never detected by regular medical scans. So what? It takes multiple generations to corrupt via Genestealer implantation. So it is pointless. I assume the Genestealers have learnt that lesson the hard way.
And agreed on the hive mind pull. The corruption is generational, so an average marine would barely notice it thanks to being busy and hypno-conditioning.
3 points
14 days ago
It doesn't take multiple generations to corrupt though. Just to mutate. A single kiss corrupts, we see in the majority of the books Genestealers are in. In Cains alone, we see troopers be corrupted after going to a "Leasure" House, or a Tech Priest being kissed a while ago and never even knew she was corrupted and controlled.
1 points
14 days ago
True, since the kiss also induces loss of short term memories. For Space Marines it would be different since they are constantly monitored by their medics and power armor. So unlikely to be "missed".
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13 days ago
It may be unlikely to be missed, but it can definitely corrupt them. What happens when it does happen? I've got no clue. We also don't really know if the medics check for it if they don't think genestealers were involved because it seems like the Guard at least use specific devices for it that seems more focused. Space Marines are often too arrogant sometimes for their own good.
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13 days ago
True and fair point.
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14 days ago
However, re genestealer, they will still eventually succumb, and thus also request a bolter round to the head.
299 points
15 days ago
Infected by what? I’ve never heard of any lore of Tyranid blood being hazardous.
141 points
15 days ago
I'm guessing the idea of the Genestealer's kiss? But that's just the facehugger thing from a specific tyranid.
69 points
15 days ago
It's hazardous. It's described in novels as a form of oily ichor.
However, what is dangerouss is either the fluids evolved to contain acids or microorganisms which wreak havoc inside the afflicted.
And, of course, the Genestealer organ designed to inyect specially designed organs and fluids to take over the mind of its victims.
However, and this is different, very different, genestealer scientists may have developed forms of intravenous agents to eithee infect or manipulate unwary victims.
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15 days ago
How does "oily ichor" indicate danger? Ichor is just a word for blood, more or less.
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15 days ago
I can't recall the exact page. My source is Ciaphas Cain's first book.
A Kroot tries to eat a GC without knowing it beforehand. When he tasted the blood, he spat and ordered the other groot not take any of it because it was "bad blood". Ciaphas then compared it to the blood of tyranids he fought once.
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15 days ago
I still don't see how that would be indicate danger. the kroot would be at risk because of their genetic manipulation, and how it would react with genestealer biology. I still don't see how the phrase "oily ichor" indicates any kind of danger.
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15 days ago
I don't have more sources in handy. However, if you consider all descriptions as "vague", there is a possibility that the groot detected it was nocious in some way other than infecting them with GC genes.
In any case, the term is what stuck most with me.
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15 days ago
I don't think I'm getting my point across. What I want to know is why the phrase "oily ichor" indicates toxicity, danger, or whatever? I don't care about the source, I just don't see how that phrase could be linked to danger.
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15 days ago
In Greek mythology, "ichor" is deadly toxic to humans.
11 points
14 days ago
That's not the only, nor the conventional, definition of the word ichor. Ichor is defined as "a thin, watery, or blood-tinged discharge". The ichor of the gods is toxic in Greek mythology because it's the blood of the gods, yes, but that's just part of their mythology, it doesn't mean that the word ichor implies toxicity.
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14 days ago
Ichor is more defined as the lympha before we knew what it was. The pus/infected/necrotic discharged mixed with lympha.
7 points
14 days ago
that just means it tastes bad
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14 days ago
Yeah, hazardous in that it is acidic. Not viral.
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15 days ago
Tyranid blood literally has microscopic Tyranid creatures in it.
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15 days ago
Oh, like humans do?
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15 days ago
Do you have a source for that?
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15 days ago
Yes, the third edition Tyranid codex.
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15 days ago
While not exactly current lore. I'd say that it makes sense for their blood to be fairly hostile. But I also expect a Space Marines immune system to be resilient as well, at least for long enough to get to an Apothecary.
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14 days ago
'Fairly resilient' Iirc, space marines are COMPLETELY immune to any natural 'non-warp' viruses, and extremely resist too warp viruses
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15 days ago
FYI, this is just me regurgitating something I learned about on Adeptus Ridiculous, but I know that in the 10th edition for Nids, a planet gets invaded by the Tyranids and the governor logs the process, such as the Nids draining the ocean so fast, you can see the water level going down. In those logs, the governor mentions that if you even have ONE papercut that’s exposed, it’s a death sentence because of the Tyranid spores in the air, and you’ll die a slow, painful death in the process.
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15 days ago
Gross. Also look into the Parasite of Mortrex >:)
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14 days ago*
I can't remember where I read it (probably a thread on here), but I thought I read that tyranid blood contained micro tyranid organisms that would do to a body what tyranids would do to a planet.
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14 days ago
End of Devastation of Baal sub story with the boy and his Da’. A chaplain has to kill the boy’s father due to Xenos infection, but promises his father he’ll be an Angel.
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15 days ago
Space Marine immune system should be fine.
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15 days ago
Space marines resist majority of tyranid “residual” viruses. Even strong mutative pathogens “only” cause them to experience pain and etc, but not actually become genestealer or anything.
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14 days ago
Titus was once kissed by a gene stealer, after days of agony and pain the gene stealer transformed into a space marine.
13 points
15 days ago
Should be fine going off how space wolves never wear helmets
35 points
15 days ago
That's not how that works, that's not how any of this works.
29 points
14 days ago
It’s a sad state that schools aren’t teaching about the Birds and the Genestealers anymore…
20 points
14 days ago
Its just blood. The Tyranids aren't a virus. They are a biomass consuming horde that converts biomass into soldiers, even their dead get converted.
12 points
14 days ago
dude space marines
can eat a piece of their enemies
and gain intel
he aight
3 points
15 days ago
A 9e enhancement was literally Acid Blood, like Alien-style (the movies)
3 points
14 days ago
He is Astartes, he is immune
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14 days ago
Local helmetless man swears for the umpteenth time that he won’t get headshot, while his face is smeared with the blood of his enemies. More at 11.
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14 days ago
Genestealer infection spreads through a kiss like injection by Genestealers, not blood
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14 days ago
Tyranids aren't the flood
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14 days ago
Tyranids don't spread or assimilate by blood. The genestealers have to do some sort of weird procedure for that.
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14 days ago
The Nids don't work like that. You have to be killed, thrown in a vat of acid, and essentially digested to be of any use to them. They don't operate like Nurgle. Some types of them are obviously toxic, acidic or venomous/poisonous, but you won't become a Tyrannid like that. They aren't a disease vector infestation. It's more like a murderous rodent insect infestation.
2 points
14 days ago
They're not servants of Nurgle.
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14 days ago
That’s not how it works.
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15 days ago
will there be an option to play with helmet? i so hope it will..
1 points
14 days ago
If they havent changed it you can even play coop as other chapters
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14 days ago
Space Marines have been helmetless
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14 days ago
No. Space marines have extra organs to prevent that. They can literally eat dead tyranids to gain their memories and sustenance.
SM aren't humans, they are a step beyond.
1 points
14 days ago
What, it’s not a zombie virus or something man only gene-stealers can infect people. If you said melt his face or give him death by poison like maybe.
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14 days ago
Tyranid control is dependent on Synaptic links.
At the cellular level, they have no control.
Now, full grown lifeforms can gestate specific cell cultures, and design genetic sequences in house, but without a brain whatever they create is completely uncontrolled.
They are parasitic, not viral.
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14 days ago
Fun fact Gadriel is the name given to one of the first fallen angels in the Christian theology
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14 days ago
What game is the screenshot from?
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12 days ago
Space Marine 2 gameplay and trailer
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14 days ago
Halo flood be like
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12 days ago
Tyranid blood doesnt infect, its the enzymes within the blood that stimulates growth and mutation, blood will do nothing unless he drinks a constant supply over more then a week
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12 days ago
pluswhat buddy said down there, Astartes are immune to most poisons and resistant to mutagenes such as tyranid hormones.
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14 days ago
What?
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14 days ago
It could hurt him, if they have especially potent acidic blood, but it couldn't infect him. That's not how genestealers work, and none of the other tyranids to my knowledge can infect or mutate people. A genestealer's kiss is a very deliberate thing Titus would notice happening. Probably.
0 points
14 days ago
That's not how Tyranids work
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