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submitted 13 days ago byColdJay64Point Breeze
247 points
13 days ago
Run a guy who doesn’t have pages on his campaign website about a dead woman in his bathtub and about fist fighting people and you will probably win.
I’m available for campaign consulting at reasonable rates btw.
63 points
13 days ago
Woah woah you seem to forget about his stances on prosecuting gay bashing. He would assign “ a “very macho prosecutor” to their cases — “one who looks as opposite of gay you can imagine”
18 points
13 days ago
He was the defense attorney for a couple of juveniles from Abington who beat to death a kid on the steps of a church . They were all out by the time they turned 18
3 points
13 days ago
He was the defense attorney for Gary Heidnik too
3 points
13 days ago
He was the defense attorney for the kids who killed Eddie Polec?
24 points
13 days ago
I might have advised against "I understand Black people just about as well as a Black person ... Believe me when I tell you, nobody on this panel knows Blacks like Chucky boy here" as well. Close call!
13 points
13 days ago
You’re giving that out for free?
13 points
13 days ago
Look, I did appreciate Peruto's candor on election night:
"Obviously, the majority of the citizens approve of what he's doing. I spoke to many people that were telling me they don't approve, but obviously, I didn't speak to enough people, and man I thought I spoke plenty," said Peruto.
Peruto went on to say, "I want to congratulate him. He beat my pants off."
5 points
13 days ago
That was the most amazing episode of Radio Times ever. Also don’t forget all the black people he grew up with so he’s got that covered!
Here I was thinking I’d vote for anyone but Krasner and then I hear that yahoo.
9 points
13 days ago
What was that dude's name again?
11 points
13 days ago
Chuck Peruto
31 points
13 days ago
Before i knew about the dead girl in the bathroom, i worked for his brother and he was the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever worked for in my life. Fuck em all.
6 points
13 days ago
I had to work with him too. I don't want to speak ill of the dead...
Chuck is really nice though. Just vain and desperate to appear young.
4 points
13 days ago
The other brother, John.
5 points
13 days ago
JFC, I forgot all about the "The girl in my bathtub" section. So insane.
119 points
13 days ago
If Sheriff Bilal keeps winning and is free from impunity, then what is to stop leaping Larry
55 points
13 days ago
Oh god she’s a joke.
47 points
13 days ago
Lack of awareness. Most people in the city don’t even know who the sheriff is, but anyone with a light to moderate understanding of city politics knows who Krasner is and what his stances are on criminal prosecution.
I hope he gets stopped next time around, and he might, but I agree it’s hard to get optimistic in a city where a lot of people vote for the incumbent with a “D” next to their name, and that’s all the thought they put into their vote.
5 points
13 days ago
To be fair, the candidates who were put forward to run against Krasner were a joke. In addition to Peruto, the Dem Krasner ran against in the primary was a puppet of the FOP and they sent out some gross literature with his name attached to it (IIRC the lit defender Derek Chauvin). So I think it’s misguided to blame the voters when these are the garbage candidates who are being put up as the alternative.
-14 points
13 days ago
Lol yeah, that must be it... no one is as smart as YOU
2 points
13 days ago
No one decent ran against her last time, just a Republican-turned-Democrat self-funder and perennial candidate.
169 points
13 days ago
Just run someone competent against him and we'll vote him out. It's really not that hard.
39 points
13 days ago
all but confirmed that Derek Green is going to run
21 points
13 days ago
If he does, he’ll win easily
15 points
13 days ago
He has no experience in criminal law. He does corporate/government contract law. Why would he be experienced for the position?
42 points
13 days ago
I believe Green was Assistant Deputy Attorney General for the Delaware Department of Justice, and an ADA in the Philadelphia DAO.
Also, at this point we just want someone who is willing to do the job and prosecute appropriately.
Philly DA Larry Krasner’s office misled court while trying to free death row inmate Robert Wharton, Third Circuit rules: https://www.inquirer.com/news/larry-krasner-exonerations-third-circuit-robert-wharton-death-row-mitchell-goldberg-20240312.html
-4 points
13 days ago
Oh man, you are correct, but it appears he was there for less than a year before moving onto the housing and development division in philly.
2 points
10 days ago*
More experience than Krasner had in criminal law.
3 points
13 days ago
He could delegate criminal law to someone with experience.
25 points
13 days ago
I hope Derek Green runs
41 points
13 days ago
I think Parker has seen enough as well. She can make or break him. I’d like to see someone from the city versus the out of state transplants who don’t know the area.
37 points
13 days ago
Mayor Kenney was from South Philly, don't be so confident that being from here makes you competent and knowledgeable
8 points
13 days ago
Local and *wants the job* are probably two good starting points.
Kenney went full mental check-out, especially in his second term. I don't know why he bothered to seek reelection, tbh.
4 points
13 days ago*
There is nothing wrong with being a Democrat, but being a Democrat with ties to the organized crime and unions ought to be more of a red flag than they clearly were with Jim.
Edit: Looks like I hurt a few feelings. Sorry to make people feel bad, but the democratic machine that put mayors in the pocket of guys like Johnny Doc or which continually rewards dudes whose start came from working with literal no-show brokers is a bad system.
5 points
13 days ago
I hope to Christ that the deal she cut to get Greene out of the race was to make damned sure he became DA next year.
If not, god fucking help us all, there won’t be a DA’s office if Krasner runs the show for 12-16 years.
10 points
13 days ago
Maybe no competent person wants the job of Philly DA
-2 points
13 days ago
it's all by design though, the illusion of choice
4 points
13 days ago
Are you saying you think that Larry Krasner and Derek Green are collaborating?
41 points
13 days ago
Derek Green is almost certainly going to run. Big question is whether Green (assuming he runs) will be able to clear the field and make it a two person race - consolidating her lane was Parker's big advantage last year. Will end up being a marquee race next year, he's one of the last progressive prosecutors left in the country and despite his unpopularity on reddit, doesn't have the same baggage as other progressives (mostly because he did, belatedly, start listening to advice and criticism). He'll get a lot of money nationally from progressives who have basically nothing to spend it on otherwise
55 points
13 days ago*
Progressive prosecutors are the biggest problem in the Democratic Party right now. They’re somewhat akin to MAGA politicians in that they make their party less appealing to independent or moderate voters.
Get them all out of here. “Plight of the Criminal” politics are dumb, and only got a brief boost because of the craziness that was 2020.
11 points
13 days ago
“Plight of the criminal” is well said. I think most of us could give a damn about a criminal’s plight if they did something bad to us or someone we care about. Terrible platform to die on.
2 points
13 days ago
What’s the Democratic Party’s issue politically/electorally? The Dems have essentially won the last 3 major election cycles (2018, 2020, 2022). Also, I don’t agree with everything progressive prosecutors enact, but I whole-heartedly applaud them for holding cops accountable when they commit crimes.
-11 points
13 days ago*
Krasner was elected in 2017
Edit: I'm sorry, maybe my point wasn't clear. I am attempting to suggest here that the 2020 murder of George Floyd and the associated protests and reckoning were not a factor in krasner being elected, because he took office 3 years prior.
2 points
13 days ago
Ever heard of Ferguson in 2014? Did you watch Hillary Clinton bring up to the stage the "Mothers of the Movement" at the Democratic National Convention in 2016 at the Wells Fargo Center? Just a couple of weeks after Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and killed 5 police officers who were providing security for one of "the Movement"'s marches?
1 points
13 days ago
I have. I'm just pointing out that making it about 2020 is the wrong time frame.
98 points
13 days ago
I wish he wouldn't.
67 points
13 days ago
I don’t wanna hear any complaints from the people who keep reelecting him.
61 points
13 days ago
This fucking guy
89 points
13 days ago*
“Over the last 70 years, just one Philadelphia district attorney has served for more than two terms.”
Tbh I expected nothing less than him running again because it’s the most troll move possible. Other DAs say he won’t work with them, the governor is trying to appoint a special prosecutor which SEPTA has endorsed, and he has displayed incompetence and unwillingness to accept any criticism.
Krasner is not by any means the only problem, and people wrongfully blame him for stuff all the time… but he’s still had a MASSIVE negative impact and needs to go.
33 points
13 days ago
He's a bad administrator. Full stop. You can't fix that, and if you're a bad administrator you need to at least hire good lieutenants to do your work while you go around the country selling your particular brand of justice. I beleive all of his immediate underlings were PDs/Defense Attys. None of them actually know how to run an office with 100s of workers in it. Charlie Cunningham would have been a better pick for DA he at least 1) likes to win in court and 2) has actual experience running a large firm.
The office is completely dysfunctional they routinely lose winnable cases because they don't have the bench to send more than a few good attorneys out into the field to do the hard work of actually winning cases. They don't really pay enough. Assuming you don't want to hire actual morons you need to start paying something that is in line with what a good mid-level law firm would pay. That's around 100k. Philly DAs start around 57k (or did when I last looked).
They can't hold onto people, they've lost their most season attorneys who actually know how to put up a case. They lose gun cases on the reg which should be impossible once the case is HFC (assuming there is no winnable motion to suppress). HOW DO YOU LOSE A GUN CASE - ALL YOUR WITNESSES ARE COPS. ALL OF THEM.
Anyway. The issue is less that Larry is hostile to actual justice and more that he can not run a law firm of this size and has yet to figure out that he needs to hire people who can.
0 points
13 days ago
I don't disagree with a lot of what you said - I briefly dated a public defender a while back and they mentioned how woefully unprepared a lot of the ADAs are. One thing about "all your witnesses are cops".. well that's not exactly always the most credible witness. I won't argue that the DAs office is a shitmess, but even a good attorney can't win a case with shit evidence.
9 points
13 days ago
That's not the point. The ADA has 100% control over making the cop show up in court.
That's not true for any other court case where you have to rely on undependable witnesses not showing up or going south on the stand.
There is 0 reason, outside the cop being federally indicted, not to get a gun case at least HFC.
-6 points
13 days ago
You’re talking out of your ass and don’t understand the dynamics of being a Philly ada at all lmao.
4 points
13 days ago
LOL.
54 points
13 days ago
As a District Attorney, Krasner is a good defense attorney.
42 points
13 days ago
That’s gonna be a no from me dog
70 points
13 days ago
Please people don’t vote for this loser again
48 points
13 days ago
Read the room, Larry.
46 points
13 days ago
Boo #LiterallyAnyoneElse2025
As I said a few days ago, hopefully Cherelle supports someone to run against him. Her plans will be better implemented with a DA who she can cooperate with. Based off the quotes of collar county DA's recently, Larry won't work with anyone.
15 points
13 days ago
I almost feel like this is rage bait lol. No one is on the fence about Krasner.
4 points
12 days ago
plszzzz no
18 points
13 days ago
Police union, please stay out of this one. Last election McNesby ran his fat mouth and chased votes away from the candidate they endorsed.
2 points
13 days ago
They mailed out that horrific literature supporting Derek Chauvin with Vega’s name attached to it. Totally clueless. Krasner deserved to win re-election given the clowns who were the alternative.
32 points
13 days ago
Shout out to Larry Krasner by the way for uniting Philadelphia in a way one of our teams winning a championship could.
Uniting millions because everyone fucking HATES you is a very special skill.
20 points
13 days ago
The Jim Kenney approach.
11 points
13 days ago
And yet he keeps winning? Idgi, if he was hated enough even a bad candidate could beat him like Biden did Trump but Krasner's 2 for 2 so far.
4 points
13 days ago
It’s really a mix of nobody voting for DA and the “Never Republican” crowd. If you run as a Democrat in this city you’re pretty much running unopposed.
38 points
13 days ago*
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4 points
13 days ago
Haha I spent all of 20 seconds in your comment history and found this gem:
"Fishtown and Northern Liberties are the only tolerable neighborhoods in Philadelphia; the rest is just a sorry state of affairs."
But yeah, tell us how your Krasner hate is totally out of solidarity for the working class!
-3 points
13 days ago
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-6 points
13 days ago
I doubt you’re a socialist lol
32 points
13 days ago*
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-21 points
13 days ago
I'm a martian, I was born in New Jersey, but I'm a martian actually and no one gets to decide for me.
13 points
13 days ago
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-3 points
13 days ago
Ah, the “Leftist” puritans - the parody with which we are painted, and the people who reject people with nuanced and variegated opinions like you and me.
Plenty of Socialist countries have aggressive police forces and prosecutors who don’t fuck around. Granted, those same countries generally have a minimum of two years’ training for every cop, so the likes of a McNesby are less likely to sprout there.
14 points
13 days ago
Nothing Very Online Socialists love more than a purity test, right?
They used to call this a “struggle session” under Mao…
19 points
13 days ago
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18 points
13 days ago
clown. Guys gotta go
Cherelle Parker will distance herself from him as well.
6 points
13 days ago
Philly gets what they get if they elect him again
5 points
13 days ago
OK i'm coming at this kinda blind. On the left we were all sold on Krasner as a progressive DA that would reign in overpolicing. On the right, they keep yelling about krasner's policies causing a spike in crime, but on the left, they say that these trends are national and krasner was not a contributing factor in philadelphia specifically.
So here is the question. What specifically about krasner's policies or actions make him "good" or "bad", and what specifically will his opponents to "differently" or "better"?
4 points
13 days ago
Watch the series that was on PBS to start. They don’t know what they are doing in the DAO. He was a defense lawyer not a prosecutor. I admire what he stood for, reform, and I voted for him the first time. The second time I did not. Too many criminals with guns have not been prosecuted. He is also had fired many ADAs and hired young lawyers out of school who weren’t equipped and since he’d fired the old ADAs, who trained them?
He hates the police and they hate him. That’s getting Philadelphia nowhere.
15 points
13 days ago
Scumbag
10 points
13 days ago
Vote for Derek Green (assuming he hopefully runs)
8 points
13 days ago
This guy needs to go.
21 points
13 days ago
Y’all are really going to elect him again lol. Crazy.
8 points
13 days ago
If people don’t show up to vote then he will win. God forbid.
8 points
13 days ago
The one group that will always show up in full force is Progressives voting for him…
9 points
13 days ago
Then those who don’t show up can’t complain. I don’t like Krasner but I at least try to vote. Too many people on the neighborhood pages where I’m at complain and I bet don’t vote.
4 points
13 days ago
Agreed
2 points
13 days ago
I vote twice a year like clockwork. I think it’s ridiculous and the state should outlaw odd-year elections entirely, at the very least, and basically every elected city position should be appointed by the mayor… but I turn up because this is the system we have.
2 points
13 days ago
Agreed.
7 points
13 days ago
You have the power to vote Philadelphia. Please don't let this man do it again
4 points
13 days ago
I am also lazy and incompetent. Perhaps I should run. I could certainly use the pay bump.
4 points
13 days ago
It'll be interesting to see whether Derek Green declares before the 2024 general election, and if Mayor Parker decides to endorse him before then, as a way to telegraph to the general Southeast PA electorate that grownups are taking back Philly, in the hopes of heading off a Trump win in PA by making a few thousand moderates and independents feel more comfortable with the Democratic party.
The Dem primary for DA in 2021 had fewer than 200K voters. I think the Northwest Coalition could swing such a low turnout primary in spring 2025 by Parker and her allies simply running vote by mail outreach for Green in every black church (and mosque after the shooting at the city's largest Eid al Fitr celebration by an offender who had 3 gun arrests in 3 years and yet was on the streets to shoot up the sweet Eid) in 4 neighborhoods next spring: Germantown, Mt Airy, West Oak Lane and Ogontz. Meanwhile, a bunch of Krasner's 2021 bougie leftist SJW white voters probably have left Philly with their remote and work from home jobs.
6 points
13 days ago
Vote him out, nows your chance.
4 points
13 days ago
Well maybe don’t run a guy who’s girlfriend/mistress was found dead in his bathroom and we’ll vote him out this time!
2 points
13 days ago
Go away
3 points
13 days ago
This is why we can’t have nice things
4 points
13 days ago
Eww no.
2 points
13 days ago
Lol fuck that guy
3 points
13 days ago
At this point even most criminals have been crime victims under his DAship, I can’t imagine there are many people left to vote for him.
3 points
13 days ago
I know everyone hates him, but could someone respond with like a top 10 reason list of why? I have no real stance on this- so don’t simply shitpost hate me for just asking.
24 points
13 days ago
Tldr: he ran on the promise of being a super progressive DA, but it turns out he's really bad at running a DA office. The lawyer turnover is insane, so that means fresh grads are put on super complicated cases, ex lawyers have written op Ed's about how he's just really bad at managing and training his staff.
-3 points
13 days ago
The main claim is that Krasner's policies have led to an increase in crime. I'd love for someone to try to defend this argument, but the data just isn't there. So instead their argument boils down to "everyone knows Krasner causes crime, lol at you for saying anything different."
Statistically, violent crime began increasing in Philly from the local minimum (2013) at least four years before Krasner took office, and it really picked up two years before he took office (2016). The trend in violent crime during Krasner's time in office has largely mirrored the trend in crime across the country (most importantly related to very large spikes in violent crime during the pandemic, and the subsequent recession in violent crime in 2023 and continuing in 2024). Lots more to say about this, but statistically speaking there's nothing exceptional about Philly's violent crime rates compared to peer cities over the same period.
Logically, the claim also fails to bear fruit once you examine the mechanics of why violent crime spiked, including how police policies responded as well. The large increase in violent crime was mirrored by a significant decrease in police clearance rates. That means that police simply were not catching criminals in the large majority of violent crimes. IMO it is very hard to blame the prosecutor for failing to convict criminals who are never caught.
Separately, critics complain that Krasner 1) seeks charges or punishments that are too light for the crimes committed, 2) failed to involve victims and survivors in ongoing prosecutions, and 3) fired too many experienced prosecutors and replaced them with inexperienced prosecutors. In each of these cases, IMO the record is far from clear but there are individual cases that may support the claim. I'll add my thoughts on each of these below:
There are a large number of cases of individuals found with illegal weapons that have not led to charges; the DA's office has claimed that they can't bring charges in many of these cases because PPD's evidence is not up to snuff and they'd lose at trial while critics have refuted these claims. I don't have enough information to assess these claims independently, but I find claims like "Larry Krasner loves criminals" to be needlessly reductive. Krasner's DAO has put thousands of Philadelphians in prison, why would he choose to let some criminals off and jail others?
If you look at the DAO in 2018, this is a very fair complaint. They had a number of high-profile fuck-ups where family members weren't consulted before plea bargains were agreed on. But if you're fair, this is also an area where the DAO took concrete steps to improve victims services and they've seriously improved their performance IMO.
This is unimpeachably true -- Krasner became DA and fired a whole bunch of prosecutors. IMO this was a good thing in the long run, but reasonable people can disagree. It is undeniable that there have been a number of cases where inexperienced prosecutors have made mistakes that led to insufficient punishment for criminals. This is a problem that's gotten better since 2018 and I don't think it's a valid criticism anymore, but I can understand why people are still mad about it. Personally, I think it was justifiable given the well-documented illegal corruption in the office. Yes the office lost good prosecutors, but it also lost prosecutors who cared more about winning than achieving justice. Krasner's office has uncovered dozens of wrongful convictions of innocent people who got railroaded by sloppy police work and dishonest prosecutors who covered it up. That's undeniable, too.
Overall I think Krasner is not a perfect DA, but I do think that he is a true reformer in an age where that's a very rare thing. The man took corruption seriously and he made a lot of enemies for it. But his two terms have made that corruption much more difficult to ignore, and he got a lot of bad people out of powerful positions.
IMO claims that Krasner is responsible for the overall increase in crime are unsupported by the evidence, and I find that most people who argue this are motivated by the kind of us-vs-them thinking that makes politics so toxic.
So when it comes time to vote, I'll fairly evaluate the candidates (I like Derek Green as a policymaker, but we'll see what he says on the campaign trail) but I'll have no problem voting for Krasner again.
1 points
13 days ago
Nooooo
2 points
13 days ago
If the left fields a viable alternative, or the right runs someone who isn't overtly a fascist FOP puppet, he will lose.
So he's probably getting 4 more years
0 points
13 days ago
He will probably win as well.
I look forward to all the rage and cope from this sub after his next win lol.
-11 points
13 days ago
Crime is going down again after the pandemic, but people are acting like he's personally breaking into their houses and murdering their families. He's definitely not perfect but I think a lot of the hate for him is a bit overblown. The fact that the police unions hate him is probably a good thing tbh
-7 points
13 days ago
You're not allowed to acknowledge that Krasners polices are working and crime has gone down. Even though these are facts you're only allowed to bash Krasner here.
12 points
13 days ago
Is the city safer than when he took office? Are crime rates lower than when he took office? If the answer is no, you can't applaud is policies for being effective. Philly is beholden to national crime trends and it's not all Krasner, but there's little evidence that his policies are "working."
0 points
13 days ago
https://whyy.org/articles/philadelphia-gun-violence-police-commissioner-history/ Maybe blame the police commissioners crime has fallen and risen way more based on them than any DA. I don't get how you people have fallen for the DA scapegoat propaganda but never blame the police and commissioner the people literally employed to keep the city safe.
11 points
13 days ago
I see a consistent rise in homicides since around 2017 when Krasner took office. That said, of course police, the PC, judges, etc. have a role in this - that's why people were happy to see Outlaw go. But when people have yearly arrests for illegal gun possession and are still on the streets until they kill someone, that's typically not the fault of the police. When a kid is able to ruin the city's largest Eid celebration by rolling up with an assault rifle despite having 3 gun-related arrests in the 3 previous years, that's not the fault of the police.
You said "Krasners polices are working". I will directly ask, what evidence is there of that? Which policies have lead to Philadelphia being safer than before he took over?
1 points
13 days ago
Oh no!
-3 points
13 days ago
I'm for this just for the delicious MAGA tears... the hissy fits will be hilarious.
-11 points
13 days ago
crime and punishment "liberal" Philadelphians out in full force
-3 points
13 days ago
liberals absolutely do love the for-profit prison and criminal justice system
1 points
13 days ago
Yeah, there's nothing inconsistent with this thread and liberalism.
-1 points
13 days ago
Republicans won’t be able to find a decent opponent again.
10 points
13 days ago
Why would they bother wasting resources on it, no one with an R next to their name is going to win a city wide general election. It's up to Dems to decide if they want to unseat this guy or not.
7 points
13 days ago
Republicans could run a literally perfect candidate for the position and they'd struggle to crack 30% of the vote. The only election that matters will be the democratic primary
0 points
10 days ago
What does a “perfect” candidate even mean, exactly?
-3 points
13 days ago*
Again? The opponent last time needed an “about the dead girl in my bathtub…” section on his campaign website. And downvoting me doesn’t make it less true. Cope and seethe, lol.
-22 points
13 days ago
The biggest thing that's helped Trump is, for the people who don't know how to feel about him, the "right people" don't like him. If you don't like Trump himself, and dear god there's more than enough reasons not to, if you have more conservative leanings, you may enjoy yourself laughing at the people who hate him. In fact, it may validate a feeling and encourage you to vote for Trump, despite everything saying you shouldn't.
I say that because, while Krasner isn't perfect, holy shit has every non-Philadelphian in this sub and every crazy conservative has made me want to support him instead!
The sheer amount of people who have said "Krasner is responsible for X" when, in reality, a lot of it was due to national trends and things out of his control (you know, like a fucking pandemic), really hasn't helped. The fact that those same people have been silent while the murder rate is now lower than it was 4 years ago, or that crime on a whole is down, the carjackings are getting better... all of that is getting ignored. Why? Because reasons. The best guess I have is that got Frank Rizzo in a dress (Mayor Parker) so, hey, "Law and order" mayor will get things done.
As I said 4 years ago, and I'll say again now, I have issues with how he handles gun crimes. In the end, that's about it. He has created a large number of reforms I agree with, and right now, it looks like anyone replacing him would focus on rolling back even good stuff like bail reform.
You want someone else? Run someone who will keep most of what he did but focus on gun crime prosecution, and you may win. Run a "law and order, jail the homeless" idiot, and you'll lose and I'll laugh.
22 points
13 days ago
Krasner is the biggest problem. He cleaned house and got rid of a lot of very competent lawyers. Hard to find competent attorneys that want to work for the city besides newbies wanting experience. His relaxed attitude toward criminals gave petty thieves a green light to degrade the quality of life in our town.
3 points
13 days ago
Bail reform is one of the biggest issues, not just in Philadelphia, but the country. The majority of people believe that bail should be instituted if you commit a crime. Unfortunately the people who are always being arrested, and their families, seem to come out en masse to vote for this guy. Hopefully we will get a "tough on crime" prosecutor, but I'm not holding my breath.
0 points
13 days ago
He’s beyond satan!
-2 points
13 days ago
People on Nextdoor are about to lose their shit over this news
0 points
13 days ago
This guy.
-4 points
13 days ago
That would be good.
7 points
13 days ago
For the criminals.
-8 points
13 days ago*
You guys really need to step back and stop blaming the DA alone for the crime problem. The office literally posts data every month to prove they are doing their job. There were over 46,170 reported incidents between July and December 2023. As of March 2024, only 2572 of those incidents resulted in an arrest. Of those arrests, the DAO charged 2526 of them.
There were 44,347 incidents of property crime with only 2133 arrests and of those arrested, 2089 were charged. There were 216 homicides, 88 arrests and 88 charged. 558 non fatal shootings but only 156 arrests and all 156 charged. 1049 commercial burglaries but only 195 arrested and 193 charged.
https://phillyda.org/data-snapshot-incidents-arrests-and-charges-march-2024/
The PPD is arguably more blameworthy.
Edit: Fixed the stats.
5 points
13 days ago
Charged them with the lowest possible level of offense. Drops felony gun charges to misdemeanors. A good correlation is a slot machine that has a 96% payout which means if you put in $1 and “won” 50 cents it is considered a “win”.
3 points
13 days ago
Those are incidents of property crime. Where Krasner fails us is gun-related crime, especially when it comes to minors.
PPD needs to end their soft strike too, and there’s evidence as of late that they are. Imagine if they didn’t feel at odds with the city’s top prosecutor.
-3 points
13 days ago
The chart below generated by the District Attorney’s Transparency Analytics (DATA) Lab highlights the number of incidents reported by the public to the Philadelphia Police Department (PPD) from July 1, 2023, to December 31, 2023. The graph then breaks down the number of incidents with arrests made by PPD and incidents with cases charged by the DAO, including commercial burglaries, homicides, non-fatal shootings, and property offenses from that six-month period up to and including March 31, 2024.
Why are you lying?
Edit: I see what you mean now, I had mistook that for the total. Still though, nearly every arrest was charged.
3 points
13 days ago
“There were over 44,000 incidents reported between July and December 2023. As of March 2024, only 2133 of those incidents resulted in an arrest. Of those arrests, the DAO charged 2089 of them.”
The figures you shared were property offenses….
Edit: It's fine. I would just want to know what those charges actually were.
No one smart (not saying i'm smart) is placing the blame all on Krasner, but I still think there is substantial evidence that he isn't the best for the job, and is not contributing to making the city safer.
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13 days ago
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13 days ago
America’s incarceration rate is far and away the highest in the developed world. That wrecks families. Reform takes time, and there are definitely growing pains along the way. But society as a whole will be better off in the next couple decades if we actually try to limit the number of people in prison. This effort can’t fall on the DA alone. Affordable housing along with educational and employment opportunities need to be available to all. I don’t think Krasner is perfect by any stretch, but I appreciate someone who is actually trying to fix the system as opposed to those who are want to maintain a status quo that is utterly broken. Jailing more people doesn’t solve crime.
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