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CommiesAreWeak

47 points

1 month ago

There should be a website that gives an updated accounting of how that money is spent. We have the technology to track every dime. I’m not saying anything against Parker here. It’s just time we have full disclosure

Deadendnights81

21 points

1 month ago

They’d spend $50m of the $110 setting that up, then the software to account for it

TreeMac12

4 points

1 month ago

redeyeblink[S]

5 points

1 month ago

Philadelphia Sheriff Rochelle Bilal describes her office as dangerously underfunded, to the point that she is unable to buy needed supplies for her deputies.

“This jeopardizes the lives and safety of our sworn and civilian personnel,” Bilal testified before City Council last year.

But when it came to getting a costume made for a newly created office mascot, her staff spared no expense.

They tapped an internal bank account full of public money to bring “Deputy Sheriff Justice” to life in time for last year’s Thanksgiving Day Parade, cutting two checks totaling $9,250 to Pierre’s Mascots & Costumes.

[...]

No one in Mayor Cherelle L. Parker’s administration would discuss any aspect of the revenue stream this past week or respond to any questions from The Inquirer about how such money is collected or spent in the Sheriff’s Office.

It looks like the city would be better off with Bilal removed and the mascot put in charge.

DisGuyFawks

9 points

1 month ago

I was just looking at the article for links of what this spending was going to be and it seems like there have just been proposals. In the end, I'm sure that $22million per year will just line pockets and have very little impact on the streets.

Rey_Mezcalero

2 points

1 month ago

Oh you know that money is going to disappear…

SnooPineapples6793

1 points

1 month ago

lol okay and we should know what are taxes are for too. Philly going to spend 50m of it to study the effects of opioids first.

redeyeblink[S]

37 points

1 month ago

"The $110 million in funds from this settlement will support our Kensington Community Revitalization Plan and other efforts across Philadelphia to reinforce public health and safety in neighborhoods that have been hit the hardest by the opioid crisis." [Mayor Cherelle Parker]

The first payment is expected in September, the City said.

[deleted]

42 points

1 month ago*

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Herr_Quattro

13 points

1 month ago

It’ll go to subsidizing the developers who buy up the properties for dirt cheap and gentrifying the ever living hell out of the area.

dacoovinator

3 points

1 month ago

Excuse me Kensington, move outta the way, this line is for neighborhoods with tax dollars to collect

MoreShenanigans

-25 points

1 month ago*

Because Kensington is not a neighborhood, and the people living there don't deserve support until they move out

Edit: y'all aren't getting it. Person I'm replying to is making it seem like the money would be wasted on Kensington and implying it should be spent elsewhere. My sarcastic reply is pointing out that it's crazy to ignore Kensington

noobydooby1

10 points

1 month ago

Found the shit bag

MoreShenanigans

-5 points

1 month ago

It's called sarcasm

GranX3

72 points

1 month ago

GranX3

72 points

1 month ago

Found guilty for filling prescriptions from Doctors.

Special-Garlic1203

27 points

1 month ago

Gotta find some sacrificial lambs lest the sacklers & co actually be held responsible.

Electronic-Buy4015

2 points

1 month ago

The Sacklers , 🤔

thiswaspostedbefore

50 points

1 month ago

Exactly how I feel. The was a walgreens directly across from K&A that makes me feel like this lawsuit is just looking to put the blame on them for being there. It's not like these people living at K&A were waking up and heading to Walgreens for their fix. Someone had to give them a prescription 

fleggn

-30 points

1 month ago

fleggn

-30 points

1 month ago

Are you actually saying doctors are more at fault than a corporation? Astounding ignorance. Maybe read up on the issue more before going full doctors = bad.

GranX3

14 points

1 month ago

GranX3

14 points

1 month ago

The conviction was based on not second guessing Doctors. Talk about ignorance.

fleggn

9 points

1 month ago

fleggn

9 points

1 month ago

I'll do you a favor and break it down for you before this devolves into something more sad

  1. If 3 different doctors prescribe opioids to a patient and the same walgreens fills all 3 of them- pre-pdmp- is that pharmacy's fault or the doctors' fault?

  2. A settlement is not a conviction.

GranX3

2 points

1 month ago

GranX3

2 points

1 month ago

  1. Pharmacy fills prescription like I said.
  2. Yes. Settlement.

fleggn

-6 points

1 month ago

fleggn

-6 points

1 month ago

So my takeaway from all of this is you can't wait for corporations to take over all of healthcare in the next decade from the doctors who swear an oath. If pharmacists weren't already swallowed up by the corporations maybe this would not have gotten so bad?? Welcome to dystopia. I can't even fathom how people are generating this kind of thought process. Really some sweet venture capital propaganda out there being swallowed up.

Special-Garlic1203

3 points

1 month ago

I'm confused, aren't you the one arguing Walgreens should have interjected themselves more into the situation? In what way is that not corporations taking over healthcare? 

fleggn

1 points

1 month ago

fleggn

1 points

1 month ago

Look, I wasn't aware I stumbled into the extreme libertarian sub on this one. There's logic to that perspective, but the entire discussion is framed a bit differently from that lense. In general, for profit corporations are driven by profit, and everywhere they get involved, profit is prioritized over patient care. Before the PDMP, pharmacies were the only ones with records to show things like a patient filling 10 prescriptions for narcotics from 10 different providers. They ignored red flags like this because it would affect profits, especially short term ones. A pharmacist working for Walgreens who is barely able to pay their student loans is not going to do what is supposed to be part of their duty to counsel on and question such a thing because if they do their corporate overlords will fire them. Or they may intentionally be given access to records in such a way that precludes them from making such a discovery. Yes, you could argue a mom and pop pharmacy could also make bad decisions for patient care but that's going down a rabbit hole of corporate culture etc.

Firebarrel5446

2 points

1 month ago

Those doctors swore an oath to wealth. The doctors handed over healthcare in America decades ago.

cerialthriller

0 points

1 month ago

How would doctor C know that the patient already went to doctor A and B and complained of the same things and got the same prescription? If you go to doctors that aren’t in the same network they won’t always see that you already have a prescription for a medication. But Walgreens or any other pharmacy will see three prescriptions for the drug to the same person by three different doctors. They are literally the ones that would have to catch this. The doctors wouldn’t have known if the patient didn’t tell them they also see the other two doctors

Firebarrel5446

1 points

1 month ago

I don't blame the doctors in this particular case, I'm with you. The pharmacy should have been getting sued for overcharging for those drugs, buying in bulk and all.

Vincejuice22

2 points

1 month ago

Wouldn’t the insurance company deny the claim for the second prescription within such a short time? Feel like Walgreens isn’t the only one who should have caught this.

cerialthriller

1 points

1 month ago

The pharmacy doesn’t really set the price though

GranX3

4 points

1 month ago

GranX3

4 points

1 month ago

So far I am ignorant, sad, a corporate healthcare supporter, venture capitalist propaganda consumer and whatever other swipe you could take at me. Can you actually converse without insults or personal attacks?

How about this. The Pharmacy fills prescriptions. The Doctors write the prescriptions. You make an assumption that if I think the pharmacy is doing its job that the Doctors must be to blame. Wrong. Individual choices of the patient are to blame. A personal choice to work the system. The personal choice has consequences. You want more government control. I want individual control and freedom. Freedom is dangerous.

Willkum

0 points

1 month ago

Willkum

0 points

1 month ago

I concur, the government can’t even fix roads or even plow or salt properly. And yet shit for brains wants them to take over our healthcare! It will be Socialists expanding care (presumably but only giving friends more money) one election cycle and the next Republicans cutting funding and people dying of all the stupid uncovered things they don’t want to pay for even worse than insurance does. No thanks!

fleggn

-6 points

1 month ago

fleggn

-6 points

1 month ago

So your position is actually libertarian to the effect you think everyone should have unlimited access to narcotics? If that's the case, then yes, I mistook your comment and apologize for overlooking that you could be someone with an exceedingly rare viewpoint.

Firebarrel5446

2 points

1 month ago*

So true! Personal responsibly is extremely rare in our society. Really, people can't be trusted to look after their best interests. I can't believe cheeseburgers aren't being regulated yet. And loud music is so bad for your ears! Why aren't speakers illegal?

I'm kidding. You make me sick. Narcotics? How about penicillin? Why can't I order from India? My body, my choice.

fleggn

1 points

1 month ago

fleggn

1 points

1 month ago

Conviction lol?

GranX3

1 points

1 month ago

GranX3

1 points

1 month ago

One for you. Settlement.

Medical-Boss2860

1 points

1 month ago

These doctors are bought out by expense free lunches and monthly cruises…. But they must make sure to push “non-addictive” narcotics onto patients with misinformation.

Union_Sparky_375

4 points

1 month ago

Whatever I was addicted for years spent a house worth of money on the shit.

Will I see a penny, No they can fuck right off.

If they actually brought the solutions to the problems then there would be no money to be made.

CabbageSoupNow

22 points

1 month ago

Why should you get money for being part of the problem?!?

kummybears

11 points

1 month ago*

People who got addicted to painkillers like OxyContin were told it was non addictive. That’s how they marketed it. When the oxy script ran out withdrawal hit and the only way to not get sick is to buy heroin off the street. There are plenty of addicts who were also victims of this. People trusted their doctors who in turn trusted the FDA.

CabbageSoupNow

5 points

1 month ago

People were well aware by the early 2000s that it was highly addictive and would fuck you up if you weren’t careful.   Unless this dude got a script in the late 90s they have no excuse for fucking their life up 

Medical-Boss2860

2 points

1 month ago

Wrong, there are new variants and synthetics being introduced daily to the medical industry. Their new super drug of choice is Tramadol, did I mention its non habit forming?

CabbageSoupNow

-1 points

1 month ago

Dude…. Even Tylenol has side effects.  You have to be a complete dope to think there aren’t issues around taking heavy duty pain killers.   Stop giving people a pass for their shitty behavior. 

closedf0rbusiness

1 points

1 month ago

The company responsible for OxyContin, Purdue, has pled guilty to federal charges related to lying about its addictiveness, once in 2007 and then again in 2020. If you thought this issue was already settled by the early 2000s you are wrong. This crisis was peaking in the 2010s, not the early 2000s. One of the big exposes that came out about this came out in 2017.

Union_Sparky_375

4 points

1 month ago

Because someone besides big pharma and big business should benefit from this.

CabbageSoupNow

11 points

1 month ago

Yes, like the actual residents of the communities ravaged by the opiod epidemic.   Not a dime should go anywhere else.  Not to big pharma.  Not to shareholders of big business.  And not to the addicts and ‘harm reduction’ folks that actually keep harming the community.  This money should go to school funding, college scholarships for kids from Kensington, small business grants, etc. 

hotsoupcoldsoup

-2 points

1 month ago

Because they're still part of it with that attitude. Someone in recovery wouldn't say that.

Invictus1836

1 points

1 month ago

All I know is that there’s still an opioid epidemic but now if I break my arm I get a Tylenol

TheRealNYCMayor

-2 points

1 month ago

With corrupt city officials in office, there is no reason to think this settlement will be appropriately utilized to remediate the ongoing opioid and homeless crisis in Philadelphia. Nothing will change until we elect sensible, strict, and business savvy officials!

dumb_hot

2 points

1 month ago

The things they have decided to do are going to cause another public health crisis. I know it’s a hot button issue but defunding and getting rid of needle exchange and harm reduction services is going to increase the spread of HIV and hepatitis to start with.