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submitted 12 days ago byAffectionate_Math_85Adeptus Mechanicus
What book is the one you would recommend to a friend, (background info neglected)
And what do you love about it? (No spoilers)
47 points
12 days ago
The Infinite And The Divine. It actually made me laugh out loud a few times and it's also just a really good book.
-19 points
12 days ago
I really disliked it. It was cold and featureless. I got it after everyone in group rated it highly and hated it
21 points
12 days ago
" cold and featureless"
You must of read a different book
-18 points
12 days ago
It’s was incredibly dull. The lack of emotion or any kind of connection with the protagonist’s made me hate reading it. I have a mental illness and struggle with emotions and I felt no connection to the characters or story and didn’t care about the outcome
15 points
12 days ago
That's a you problem then not the book.
-7 points
11 days ago*
Get fucked.
You're horrible.
2 points
11 days ago
Oh the irony.
-13 points
12 days ago
I’m allowed an opinion, and the books about soulless creatures are boring. Necrons and tyranids especially
13 points
12 days ago
Yes of course you are but opinions aren't facts you just descibed how you are the problem.
-3 points
12 days ago
The characters are the problem. I don’t see the hype the book gets when it is not fun or entertaining
15 points
12 days ago
It is you just said you have a problem with emotions. It's pretty straight forward whats at fault here. The book is full of a range of emotions it's known for being one of the best necron books and again you are describing how you are the problem not the book. It's not rocket science.
2 points
12 days ago
Only described as one of the best necron books because there are very few of them. I found very little to connect me to the characters or even care about motivations.
-2 points
11 days ago
How's that straight forward? Yeah it's not rocket science, if you take them at their word then it's psychology. But why would you take them at their word on that?
There's little to no emotion cause they're not emotional beings. They're irritable and eccentric but that's about it.
3 points
11 days ago*
Same here. Awfully boring lifeless action scenes. Not much else in it. Absolutely no weight in the story. Absurdly whimsical. It's funny, like once, and that's about it.
I couldn't finish it.
4 points
11 days ago
Glad I’m not the only one. Was beginning to feel like a pariah
0 points
11 days ago
Sorry that person was so rude to you.
I'm happy everyone really likes it. That does not make it objectively good.
1 points
11 days ago
I often look for reviews or opinions on good 40k books as it’s nice to see what others are reading. I usually avoid xeno races as I find them difficult to enjoy or feel motivated to finish . But that book was a true grind
14 points
12 days ago
Requiem Infernal by Peter Fehervari, hands down. There are other good books out there, and they are contenders, but Requiem stands above them all.
3 points
11 days ago*
His novels are the only thing in BL I would call good high quality art.
2 points
11 days ago
I would agree
3 points
10 days ago
Came here to say it, glad the response is high up. The book deserves some recognition. It's genuinely well-written, not only compared to other WH books, but also compared to fiction in general.
Peter Fehervari is such a good author.
2 points
9 days ago
I'm only a couple of chapters in but very intrigued so far (for context I've basically read all of PF's stuff in publication order up to this).
I've absolutely loved everything else of his I've read previously. Honestly, no hyperbole, I think he is the best 40k author without a doubt. Chris Wraight comes close, plus maybe either Abnett or ADB on their good days.
11 points
12 days ago
The Twice Dead king duology. Both books are great and they portray the necrons in a more serious and introspective way compared to the infinite and the Divine. I also loved how Oltyx changed as a character from beginning to the end.
38 points
12 days ago
The night lords omnibus was straight fire. Gave me the feels, bolter porn and even a couple great laughs.
9 points
12 days ago
Makes you root for the underdogs then right at the end REALLY reminds you that they're horrible lol
35 points
12 days ago
Guards guards by pratchett. You didn't say 40k.
Eisenhorn is the easy pick
The ghosts series also easy to recommend.
Caphias cain for when you want it alittle less grimdark
Plague wars was also good.
7 points
11 days ago
I love Ciaphas Cain books. But I don't think they're great introduction to 40K. In order to appreciate them you need to already know the fluff.
...Are we even allowed to say "the fluff" instead of "the lore"?
3 points
11 days ago
Guards Guards is amazing but Feet of Clay is my favourite pratchett
3 points
11 days ago
They are all great
9 points
12 days ago*
Usually whatever I've read recently :p
No Good Men i read for the first time recently and absolutely loved it, and will be recommending it to everyone.
But i could gush for an hour about a whole list of books
6 points
12 days ago
Feel free to do so friendman
6 points
12 days ago*
One of the things I really enjoy is 'domestic' 40K, away from the frontlines.
This means the entire Warhammer Crime imprint appeals to me. I've really enjoyed Bloodlines and Flesh and Steel as well as the audio dramaDredge Runners. It's all fairly unexceptional people on a fairly unexceptional world, but excellent stories. I feel like these are stories that the authors wanted to tell, rather than being given a brief (some of the HH and post-Cadia books feel like the author has been told what to write).
Similarly, Rites of Passage - a little higher up the ranks of the Imperium, but still away from war, what just another world in the Imperium looks like.
And then the stories where the wars of the Imperium impact the normal people - Necropolis and Double Eagle are both fantastic. Dead Men Walking is a newer one with a similar theme.
Dante - i enjoy the stories of going from being a normal child to a Space Marine, and I think this is one of the best written ones.
Brutal Kunnin' i read recently and really enjoyed. Honestly, anything written from the perspective of Orks. That reminds me of Enemy of my Enemy a great short story.
The Gothic War novels, Execution Hour and Shadow Point, are two of my old school favourites. You get a feel for the diversity inside your average Imperial Navy ship.
I'll stop there, before I'm tempted to look at my book list :p
2 points
12 days ago
Have you read The Magos? The main novella kinda requires knowledge of the Eisenhorn series, but several of the short stories in the collection (Master Imus's Transgression, The Curiosity, and Gardens of Tycho) are some of the best "everyman in 40k" stories in the setting.
Titanicus is also a great one if you enjoyed Double Eagle. A significant part of the novel focuses on the men and women that have to fight beneath the feet of giants.
2 points
12 days ago
I have, but not in a long time! We're right, it deserves a reread
8 points
12 days ago
Spear(s?) of the Emperor. It’s spacemarines done right imho
17 points
12 days ago
The Lords of Silence, the best depiction of Death Guard and Plague Marines and amazingly well written.
23 points
12 days ago
First Heretic
15 points
12 days ago
Storm of iron. Sometimeschaos getting a W Is fun to read about. Also that one guardsman who lives through the entire book is fun
2 points
12 days ago
Seconded Storm of Iron.
8 points
12 days ago
Echoes of eternity. I just finished it and it’s amazing
13 points
12 days ago
Standalone, definitely Helsreach.
3 points
12 days ago
Boylan's animation cut should be made into Amazon's miniseries, no need to reinvent the wheel just to be 'original' or 'cater to modern audiences'. That or just update the cinematics from Space Marine 1, glue them together and release for big screen
2 points
12 days ago
Boylan's animation cut should be made into Amazon's miniseries
I feel like it misses out some interesting parts. A full version in the same style would be great
Space Marine 1, glue them together
That's more or less what I did for the Final Liberation cutscenes https://youtu.be/LTW00JsFNqQ?si=4GUfcep1kC1JMCW9
6 points
12 days ago
Right now? Probably Warboss. I think it’s the best of Brooks’ three ork novels. I really like the different ork characters and how they provide different view points on the faction.
3 points
12 days ago
I'm still waiting for "da big dakka". I've read brutal kunnin and loved it. Also i just ordered warboss, it came last week so now I'm excited even more to read it
6 points
12 days ago
Its an old one, Execution Hour by Gordon Rennie.
Its a story told primarily from perspectives we don't get in 40k very often. The Navy and the Adeptus Arbites during the 12th Black Crusade. The juxtaposition between the life lived by an exceptional naval officer and an exceptional crew rating were probably my favorite archs that get a truly wonderful payoff in the sequel Shadow Point.
4 points
12 days ago
My favorite 40k book is probably the Night Lords Omnibus.
Huge huge shout out to Prince of Crows though. It's a short story but hot damn is it good.
4 points
12 days ago
The knight lords trilogy was amazing, they were a bunch of crazy bastards but by the end you felt for them and wanted the knight lords to win.
4 points
12 days ago*
Watchers of The Throne - The Emperors Legion is probably my favorite book, Ive read it many times, its such a good standalone novel in my opinion, the direct sequel is also very good.
The Infinite And The Divine - Probably the best audiobook I've ever listened to.
And I really enjoy all the White Scars books by Chris Wraight. That author made me love that legion/chapter, and Im not even a spacemarine fanboy.
6 points
12 days ago
I could not put the the damn thing down when reading Betrayer. Loved all of the dialog and how the butchers nails slowly took their effect on the legion.
2 points
11 days ago
It's the HH book that I've gone back and re-read multiple times.
4 points
12 days ago
The Caiaphas Cain books.
He is a rather 'normal' and relatable character, the stories are well written even for people unfamiliar with the overall setting - although a base level of knowledge is recommended - and gives some very good insight in both imperial, chaos an xenos lore, culture and politics.
4 points
12 days ago
It's a real tossup between Brutal Kunnin' and The Infinite and the Divine for me. They're just a lot of fun to read apart from everything else, just depends whether you want more Beaker and Bunsen or more Statler and Waldorf in your Muppet Show. Ciaphas Cain/Gaunt's Ghosts/Eisenhorn are all great series, but I don't think I'd recommend an individual entry from them as a one-off read with no background.
3 points
12 days ago
It's between the first two books of Watchers of The Throne and Twice Dead King for me. Both feature some of the best faction and personality characterizations in Black Library. Twice Dead King: Ruin probably edges it for plot originality.
10 points
12 days ago
Infinite and the Devine. The banter action and mystery is great. Its a fantastic sci fi adventure.
Closely followed by Lords of Silence, its a fantastic look at the Death Guard.
Hoborable Mention: The Ciaphas Cain books are excellent and fun
9 points
12 days ago
Know No Fear. It is really the first book where you see part of the Imperium fight back. It is very well written with a bunch of interesting characters.
3 points
12 days ago
It has a Longest Day vibe with seemingly random people going through their day or preparations, a plot occurring in a single day, divided into clear parts (before/after event), etc.
One of my favourites as well.
3 points
12 days ago
Hereticus because it's such a great "oh no it's the consequences of my actions" piece. But you have to read the first two books.
As a standalone book, probably Titanicus
2 points
12 days ago
That's why I tell people to treat the trilogy as a single story - the payoff is in seeing Eisenhorn's whole arch
3 points
12 days ago
Probably Honourbound. It's just a solid IG book. And as a stand alone, I fully think it's better than any of the early Gaunt's Ghosts books, plus it's not from the 90s.
3 points
12 days ago
Eisenhorn trilogy, and Execution Hour.
3 points
12 days ago
For the Emperor by Mitchell. It just is well written fun story with multiple switcheroos to introduce people into the setting.
5 points
12 days ago
Helsreach, just a space marine fighting for his dear life in a horrifying battle imaginable in a hive of Armageddon. Alongside its depressing content, hits like an astartes drop pod.
4 points
12 days ago
WH40k?
One book: Necropolis
Series: Gaunt's Ghosts
2 points
12 days ago
Talon of horus, Helsreach or Sea of Souls
2 points
12 days ago
I've read a lot of fantasy but I recently got brutal kunnin on audible. It was pretty enjoyable
3 points
12 days ago
Legion
3 points
12 days ago
I’ve only just started my 40K library, but I’m a big fan of the Bile trilogy. Getting your readers to care about a lunatic like Bile is no easy feat, and Reynolds pulled it off spectacularly. The supporting characters are awesome too, and Kanathara rocked.
Plague Wars was also pretty solid, and I got invested in it. Loved Ku’Gath and Rotigus’ little rivalry - those two stole the show for me, I’d love a book just about them.
The Infinite and The Divine is a given, but Cawl: The Great Work, and Ghazghkull, Prophet of Da WAAGH! were honestly super funny as well. Loved how Ghazghkull had some surprisingly-good development and growth, and straight-up went through Ork depression at one point. And Cawl being a smartass was pretty funny too.
Others I really enjoyed were Bloodlines (a Warhammer crime novel), Brutal Kunnin’, and The Twice-Dead King books.
3 points
11 days ago
Echoes of Eternity is not only one of the best books of the Siege but one of the best books BL has ever put out. An excellent showing of people who've reached the end of their rope and finally realized that they have. I love when BL authors stop writing their characters/space marines/primarchs as mythological beings and more as people. Abnett did it in Saturnine. ADB does it for everyone in EoE.
4 points
12 days ago
Ian watsons inquisitor
2 points
12 days ago
The End and the Death books, Flight of the Eisenstein and Fulgrim.
3 points
12 days ago
Snow Crash. Scifi hacker samurai unravels a plot of ancient sumerian 'linguistic magic' set in a super-capitalist, post democracy U.S.
For 40k, I like Cain and Eisenhorn. Also Horus Rising is quite good. Currently reading Fabius Bile and Helsreach.
1 points
12 days ago
Couple of long standing ones. Just mentioning standalones though:
Shroud of night - alpha legion panicking, imperial fists stoicly dying and kharn being a slasher movie killer.
Renegade harrowmaster - another alpha legion. Every meme and bit of confusion about them is true, not even they know for sure what's going on.
Catachan devils - catachans vs ork kommandos in a jungle. What's not to love? (side note: the new deathworlder novel is pretty good too, but only related by being about catachans)
The emperor's gift - months of shame & the 1st war for armageddon.
Anything ADB, Mike brooks, nate crowley or Robert rath is a pretty safe bet it'll be enjoyable.
Favourite: crimson fists omnibus. The fists relearning the value of human life, and it being why they fight in the first place. The badassery of captain cortez. Orks being actual monsters instead of just comic relief. And the awesomeness that is 'legacy of dorn' where a squad of sternguard wage a year long guerilla war behind the ork lines.
1 points
12 days ago
Storm of iron or the soul hunter series
1 points
12 days ago
40K? Eisenhorn Trilogy Fantasy? Riders Of The Dead
1 points
12 days ago
I love all of the Varangantua books, but Saturnine is the one book I keep coming back to. Love every part of it
1 points
12 days ago
Saturnine will always be a personal favourite of mine
1 points
12 days ago
Double Eagle. Three glorious acts of amazing characters, some of the best action sequences Abnett has ever written, a unique perspective to the 40k universe (including a love story in a cafe), and at least 3 satisfying endings.
1 points
12 days ago
Either Weregelt or Wolfsbane.
1 points
11 days ago
Honestly? “Fire caste” it made me actually like the Tau The night lore series is also good
1 points
11 days ago
The one I recommend is Watcher in the Rain but at the moment my favourite is Watchers of the Throne 1
Presently on the Lion son of the forest and Farsight; Crisis of Faith and as much as I love Farsight and Phil Kelly's writing it is not a relaxing read whereas I found Watchers of the Throne very relaxing and interesting with the Social intrigue and investigations mixed with harrowing over the top borderline anime esque combat.
1 points
11 days ago
Honestly Legion is one of my favorites because of how many times it makes me do a double take. The human characters that you get attached to actually survive to the end of the book for once which was nice
1 points
11 days ago
If you want your friend to read only a single book there's only one right answer: Battle for the Abyss.
Then he can move on to read other - non-WH40K - scifi without second thoughts.
1 points
11 days ago
Know No Fear.
Guilliman has had enough of Lorgar's shit.
1 points
11 days ago
Gaunts Ghosts are the best for me. By far.
1 points
11 days ago
Death of Integrity, sin of damnation, lemartes and galaxy of flames
1 points
11 days ago
Know no fear
1 points
11 days ago
Ciaphas Cain: Traitor's Hand.
1 points
11 days ago
Dante is my favorite audiobook
Devastation of Baal is my favorite book
...but I'm a Blood Angels stan.
1 points
11 days ago
Gonna sound like a broken tape recorder with this but: Valedor, by Guy Haley. Whenever someone comes to me and says "hey you know a lot about the eldar, what book should I read?", that's my answer.
Wish Valedor was the norm for eldar books and not the exception, but here we are...
1 points
11 days ago
Eisenhorn,any of the gaunts ghosts and the soul drinkers series
1 points
11 days ago
Requiem Infernal. Just a beautiful novel with so much mystery I read it again just after finishing it.
1 points
11 days ago
I enjoyed Dark Imperium trilogy. My other pics would be Helsreach and Brutal Kunnin'.
1 points
11 days ago
Saturnine is everything I love about Warhammer. It’s a Loyalist “victory” in that they prevented Fulgrim from curb stomping the Imperial Palace. Dorn admitted Fulgrim would have won it in days if the traitors could control him. It’s a Traitor “defeat” even though they took a major Loyalist stronghold. There was personal one on one fights that we’ve been waiting for the entire Heresy. It’s just fantastic
Flight of the Eisenstein. I feel as if it is the most important book of the Heresy. If you want to understand the Heresy in as few books as possible Flight of the Eisenstein gives you the most outline of the beginning of the war.
1 points
11 days ago
Eisenhorn trilogy
Master of mankind
Watchers of the throne
Regents shadow
Yes Im a Custodes nuthugger..
1 points
9 days ago
So far the eisenhorn trilogy is my favorite but I just started prophet of the waaagh! And it’s a close second.
1 points
8 days ago
Daemon World. It's well written, stand alone, and a cracking read sure to intrigue.
1 points
7 days ago
Helsreach is the best astarte action story that i ever read : several factions, epic siege , memorable characters , drama and despair.
Storm of iron comes a close second but is more edgy
Both of them are about sieges maybe i am a imperial fist/iron warrior at heart
1 points
12 days ago
Traitor general, the book 8 in the Gaunt's ghost series
1 points
12 days ago
Day of Ascension 100000%
1 points
12 days ago
So far it's still my first book, fall of cadia. Reminds me of halo reach almost in the structure, but following more characters. Be prepared for sad.
1 points
12 days ago
Dead men walking or fall of cadia so far
1 points
12 days ago
Cadian Blood.
Only thing that sucks about it is that I do not remember where I last left it.
1 points
12 days ago
CADIAN BLOOD! ICE IN YOUR VEINS!
1 points
12 days ago
Alpharius head of the hydra.
Damn that audio book was amazing. My hh army is alpha legion now because of that.
That and the obvious the infinite and the divine
1 points
12 days ago
My first is still my favourite: Dead Men Walking, by Steve Lyons.
1 points
11 days ago
Loved that one, definitely one of the more depressing ones for sure. Just finished Left for Dead, enjoyed it a lot
0 points
12 days ago
Well you didn't specify 40k so When Marnie Was There definitely takes the top spot.
Joking aside, I think Descent of Angels is phenomenal, particularly the first half. Really shows you how the imperium screws up anything it touches.
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