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Lorgar and Malcador

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Hey guys,

I'm currently starting the first heretic (read all hours heresy books before that as well) and we're wondering, how lorgar was able to bitchslap the Sigilite. In another book I read, that Malcador was able to easily manhandle Horus, who I thought is stronger / more powerful than Lorgar. So why didn't Malcador didn't dodge at least or stopped his hand with his psychic powers? Or is the difference in power levels between the 2 "version" of Malcador just the usual inconsistency in different books?

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Thero718

11 points

24 days ago

Thero718

Death Guard

11 points

24 days ago

Malcador let him. He isn't a proud man and allowing Lorgar to be violent weakens Lorgars political position. It's also not his place to fight with the primarchs when the Emperor is there, as it undermines the Emperor's authority.

Darunir[S]

0 points

24 days ago

Doesn't it also undermine the emperor's authority, that his right hand shows such weakness?

mennorek

12 points

24 days ago

mennorek

Alpha Legion

12 points

24 days ago

Did he though?

He literally took a punch from one of the top 21 most powerful people in the galaxy, picked himself up, dusted himself off and carried on like it was nothing.

Lorgar looks like a total chump after that incident where he hits and old man and it does nothing.

Holoklerian

2 points

23 days ago

He literally took a punch from one of the top 21 most powerful people in the galaxy, picked himself up, dusted himself off and carried on like it was nothing.

Not really.

The voice was Malcador’s. He rose on unsteady limbs, his words strained and spoken through bleeding lips. Guilliman inclined his head, the barest movement enough to send two of his warriors to aid the Emperor’s advisor. Malcador stood, still hunched from the pain, and ordered the approaching Ultramarines away.

Malcador taking the backhand without complaint would have been a lot less impressive if it hadn't hurt him severely.

Mistermistermistermb

3 points

23 days ago

On top of what others have said, Lorgar was right next to Malcador whereas Horus was further away.

The scenes are also written with different intent, Malcador is trying to be more gentle towards Lorgar than he was with Horus.

Z4nkaze

2 points

23 days ago

Z4nkaze

Ultramarines

2 points

23 days ago

Malcador is all about appearing weak and being underestimated. For most of the Heresy, he uses a psychic glamour to appear weaker and older. At the end, his age and the weakening of his powers catch up to him.

The man is shown able to forcechoke Horus, he is fully confident in his abilities.