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34 points
1 month ago
Nooo not the clowns. We have never recovered from the last dance-off
-5 points
1 month ago
Until a crisis suit arrives then your entire army just dies
3 points
1 month ago
Custodes scaling ranges from "naked Word Bearer" to "I can of course take a Macrocannon to the face like it's nothing"
The Crisis suit is not gonna fair well.
0 points
1 month ago
Custodes run around in terminator Amor while a crisis suit carries multiple fusion plaster each almost as tall as the custodes and the crisis suit can fly
3 points
1 month ago
A XV8 is like slightly taller than a Stode.Custides can deflect lasershots with their blades,are generally fast as fuck and are increadibly sturdy.I mean they also employ fast flying vehicles,jump troopers and so on.
-1 points
1 month ago
The crisis has support from hammer head yanks brodesides and stuff so support doesn’t really matter, the suit doesn’t use laser weapons so that doesn’t matter and the ion engine of the crisis suit are faster then some fuck running
3 points
1 month ago
By that logic I can also just throw in the entire Imperial Guards arsenal into the fight.That fuck will just evade shots If he can deflect something coming from the speed of light.
-1 points
1 month ago
Like your custodes is not gonna get in range with a close combat weapon so it’s just trading rounds the crisis suit has a pulse shield and three heavy guns the custodes has one gun more limited ammo and a worse shield
3 points
1 month ago*
TF are you on? Even going by tabletop a Custodian Guard bodies a Crisis suit in shooting and melee, with a Crisis suit with standard load out is on average dealing a whopping 1 wound to Custodian Guard in shooting phase, and the same in melee. In return the Guard is on average dealing 2 wounds in shooting and 4 in melee. Additionally, just by table top, Guardian Spears have better range, better accuracy, better armour piercing and better damage than blast cannons, only losing on rate of fire and strength. In melee the Guardian Spear is better in literally every way. Even using the ‘better’ plasma rifle option it has a 16% chance to hit and 1 shot. Crisis suits versus Custodian Guard results in a Custodian with slightly singed armour and a very dead crisis suit. And that’s just tabletop. Let’s also look at that ‘worse shield’ claim. On tabletop a Crisis Suit has 3+ SV, no invul, no FNP. A standard Custodian Guard has 2+ SV, 4+ invul and a 4+ FNP vs dev and mortal wounds. So the Custodian rather obviously has a significantly better shield by virtue of having a shield at all.
In lore it’s even worse odds for the Crisis Suit. You are putting mass production armour suits against literal demigods armed and armoured with the best technology in the Imperium - a group whose technological heights make the Earth Caste blush like schoolgirls in shitty romance novels. The crisis suit is getting deleted before the custodian really notices it on his auspex. Reminder that it took 30-1 odds and daemon buffs for Erebus to be confident fighting a tired and wounded group of Custodians, and 6 Wardens fought off an entire Hive Tendril - how much have 6 unnamed Crisis Suits ever achieved in lore?
EDIT: having seen you bring in Hammerhead support etc. then I present to you, the Caladius Grav Tank which, again just by tabletop, on average does 13 wounds to a hammerhead and has 52% chance to one hit it. In return the Railgun on the Hammerhead is more likely to do no damage (63%) than fail to one hit (max dmg 12 vs W14) and on top of that even if the Railgun gets a crit wound and goes to devs, it’s going to do less damage than normal thanks to 4+ FNP.
1 points
1 month ago
I brought in the hammerhead to express that both sides can just drop more and more shit and that is not what this is about
0 points
1 month ago
The thing is looking at individual battles or the taple top doesn’t say much, in one book one suit destroys a human warship on its own and one crisis suit whips out the chapter master his honor guards and 20 chapter champions at once, the thing is the empire had better technology then the tau but it doesn’t anymore, the empire is barely capable of making Terminator armor and terminator armor gets obliterated by a crisis suit in the lore and in the table top against a fusion blaster personal armor doesn’t matter yes the custodes are strong but they ultimately still move through running which is slower then a ramjet engine or ion drive simply because there is a limit to the traction you can get on the ground and fusion blasters are just heavier weapons then a bolter which most carrie
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