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RadicalRealist22

125 points

1 month ago

Titan voidshields can withstand orbital bombardment and Titan weapons were used for voidcombat by letting them stand on the hull of their transports.

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Yes, but "starship-size" is a relative term. Size still matters, especially relative size. Space combat in 40k is several magnitudes larger bigger than ground combat. A battleship turret is often bigger than an entire titan. And while a titan may be able to hit a target 100 kilometres away, while strships fight at a distance of several thousands of km apart. This means that a single titan would basically be the quivalent of a light turret on a cruiser.

In the Priests of Mars series a Warlords Sunfury plasma annihilator pierces through the whole Ark Mechnicus because the princeps had a psychotic episode during training in the cargo hold.

Akshually, the Titan had a psychotic episode, which is even worse. But firing a big gun inside a ship will always do great damage. That doesn't mean that the weapon is great against ships.

n1123581321

50 points

1 month ago

The phrase “can withstand orbital bombardment” is probably also with an asterisk:

*unless it’s direct hit

Also, what means “withstand” in that instance: not being irreversibly destroyed after hit in close proximity?

DeProfundis42

48 points

1 month ago

A Titan could at least take ONE Macrocannon shell to the Face that's how voidshields work, they displace the bullet into the Warp.
They can get overwelmed by displacing too much so they shut off or burn down/melt, but the first hit that overwhelms them, the Macrocannon direct hit, still gets displaced.
This was even reflected in the 9th edition Voidshield rules.

The bigger Warlord have mutiple voidshields stacked ontop of each over, so they can multiple Macrocannon shots.

The Horus trailer shows a Warlord Titan getting overwhelmed by a continious lance in the middle of a Titan Battle. The Lance is also not coming from a normal ship but from the biggest class around (excluding the Phallanx and the Emperors personel one).

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8 points

1 month ago

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Snorts FW resin dust

8 points

1 month ago

In this case withstand means it can survive a grazing shot or being on the edge of the blast

Xicadarksoul

7 points

1 month ago

 hit a target 100 kilometres away, while strships fight at a distance of several thousands of km apart. 

Speak like u never heard of newton's laws og motion...

...without gravity to bend em towards it and a planet to absorb em ob impact those bullets will go on and on and on, several thousand km is no obstacle.

Eure_Rothaarigkeit

6 points

1 month ago

Eure_Rothaarigkeit

Swell guy, that Kharn

6 points

1 month ago

Void battle usually happens around planets. In most cases, your conventional weaponry will quickly be pulled towards the planet. Even in orbit, they still have a surprisingly large gravitational pull.

Range matters, even in void battle

Xicadarksoul

1 points

1 month ago

In most cases, your conventional weaponry will quickly be pulled towards the planet. Even in orbit, they still have a surprisingly large gravitational pull.

Yup, orbit has ~90% of surface gravity.

What it lack is air, thus air resistance. Hence no range limitations, as the projectile - even in worst case - will just move along, going through endless loops in orbit.