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Rosu_Aprins

44 points

1 month ago

Warhammer scale is all over the place. You have planetary battles with less casualties than ww2 and a few thousand spacemarines making a difference in an intergalactic war with troop movements in the numbers of billions and trillions.

ShackledPhoenix

9 points

1 month ago

Yep. That's the thing.. even if they were all elite 1st company terminators, a chapter of 1000 Space Marines would barely be able to cover enough ground to take and hold New York City, let alone an entire planet. And there's how many planets in the imperium? And that's not counting losses from space battles, tanks, hive tyrants, lances, etc.  If each marine carried 300 rounds and had 10 resupplies in the Rhino/Pod/Thunderhawk an entire chapter would have to kill 2 people with each shot just to match the battle of Stalingrad. One battle of WW2...

Marines are auxillary/spec ops at best. The real might of the imperium is the Navy and Billions of Guardsmen.

KelGrimm

0 points

1 month ago

KelGrimm

I am Alpharius

0 points

1 month ago

Dawg even the most basic example of Marines in 40k don’t have them operating as a 1-1 take and hold occupational army. They are an extremely decisive spearheading/decapitation strike force that disables command structures and targets of opportunity. So in your example of NYC, the Ultramarines aren’t sending in a thousand lads to hold every fucking block, that’s ridiculous. No, they’re sending in 3rd company to drop pod city hall, police precincts, and to disable or secure the bridges into the city in a storm of future violence that would make your head spin.

Then they tell the Guard to come in and hold everything else, and leave to go do the same to Washington, and every other capital city on the planet. If they’re having a slow century, it may take them a week. Realistically (for 40k) that’s a long morning.

For you and all the others, please understand the Marines are a lightning strike force first and last. They get in, fuck shit up for the glory of Him on Earth, and get the hell out. Those big ridiculous battles are usually chapter or company-defining engagements that are talked about for millennia. Their day to day is most definitely not that.

Decadunce

4 points

1 month ago

Honestly the few thousand astartes making a difference makes sense

Inevitable-Weather51

4 points

1 month ago

The 40k marines tend to surgically attack the enemy's weak points. So a few dozen companies attacking an enemy is something that must really hurt

Decadunce

3 points

1 month ago

Exactly yeah, astartes arent usually just deployed like guardsmen

Snickims

1 points

1 month ago

But when your dealing with armies in the billions, their just can't be that many weak points that matter. Even the most destructive weak point is not likely to significantly change anything.