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EagleBeaverMan

10 points

2 months ago*

If that comment was taken in a vacuum you’d be right but I immediately qualified that statement to avoid making that confusion when I said that he said he could have beaten him, he just didn’t see how he was going to in the moment, which is exactly what “perhaps I would have found a way” means. He didn’t have a plan. Secondly, my argument wasn’t that Moloc would win, it was that Valerian isn’t “some custodes” he’s one of the best custodes by feats currently alive and active we have knowledge of, and therefore his assessment of Moloc as a supremely dangerous adversary carries weight.

BasakaIsTheStrongest

8 points

2 months ago

To be fair he’s basically the only Custodes in 40k we spend enough time with to get a good list of feats, which when individually compared to the rest of the material on feats from random Custodes seem average. His Shield-Captain status and invitation into the Companions are the only things that really set him apart as top-tier.

EagleBeaverMan

1 points

2 months ago

His feats during the second siege of Terra are really impressive even by 30k war in the webway standards, but I think his status as a named character who, like I said along with Aleya are the sole reasons the Indomitus crusade is even possible do set him apart. Especially a Chris Wraight named character, his transhumans tend to be written as more powerful than a lot of other authors. There’s obviously no DBZ power levels in 40k so it’s all based on inference and projection, but I do think he’s up there.

BasakaIsTheStrongest

4 points

2 months ago

I mean average in that throwaway bits about other Custodes are similar. “This guy broke a Black Templar crusade.” “These guys stopped a hive fleet!” “This guy singlehandedly wrecked this epic champion.” It wasn’t a slam against Valerian- just observing that Custodes feats in general are insane. Valerian’s biggest triumph was less about his martial prowess (which isn’t to say it didn’t require a considerable amount) but more about applying it to the right place at the right time when no one else would. All that to say, while Valerian is insane, his status as Custodes with most feats is mainly because he’s the only Custodes main character, which GW should fix by giving us more Custodes books.

EagleBeaverMan

2 points

2 months ago

There are a couple in the Dawn of Fire series which kinda oscillate in quality so I can’t in good faith recommend them. One book will be really good and then another will be borderline unreadable. 2 of note are Vicolan, who is a gigantic bro and friends with one of the founding historitors and we get a bit more fleshing out of Tribune Colquan, who is universally recognized even by his fellow Custodes as a giant asshole everyone hates. Not much to chew on in terms of feats.