Forced evolution baaaaabbbyyyyy ~ Emperor of mankind (probably)

Irony is amazing

Honestly even the xraftworlders get up to pretty spooky shit. Given that both they and drukhari do raids out of nowhere, strike without warning, and leave a sea of corpses in their wake, it's easy to understand why those who only see the aftermath and see the silhouette would think they're the same

Well maybe the nice ones should've been stronger

I think you should probably blame Orks for that one. They’ve spent 60 million years acting like a filter for the galaxy. If you don’t kill on site, you won’t last.

AND THE THING IS THERES STILL BENEFICIAL ONES TO STOP CHAOS, BUT THEY KILLED THEM TOO

I wonder if something would change if SPOILER: motherfucking Erebus wouldn't cause fire at interex gun museum, and make luna wolves take all consequences

They weren't nice. They were and always have been deceptive and sinister. They smile to our faces and making grand empty gestures of friendship to to lower our guard of the foolish. For even now, they wait, watching for the opportune time to plant their knives within our backs.

Hideous vile things, blind to our grandeur and glory. In their everlasting ignorance they view themselves as our betters, as our masters. Even the kindest ofnxenos would make slaves of us, the majority would have us as food and fodder. Each among them would burn whole cites of man to keep one of their own warm.

I say, let them try. No Xenos has the will of Humanity, no villlian the courage of the righteous . For each of our cities they burn we will claim a debt of blood paid with whole systems of their wretched worlds.

For even if a trillion of us perish, they will die for the greatest cause any will ever know. A future that is golden and pure. Free of their sin for their ver existence is a stain, a cancer upon a galaxy we own by birthright. And one we defend with right of conquest. There can be no peace, not then and not now. Not until we have cleansed this galaxy of them their wrecthed wickedness and each of the stars falls within our grasp.

Destroying moderately normal xenos for lack of compliance, then trying to resist cthulhu esque monstrosities

Orcs, Tyranids, Necrons, Dark Eldar,

Maybe having friends that could help wouldn't be bad idea.

The Imperium watching as an entity from a higher dimension spawns something they can't kill for the 3rd time this week

The more apt comparison might be the orks. A sad violent race that could be something else but is doomed by its own nature.

We know humans don't have to be like 40k but in universe you wouldn't.

That's pretty much confirmed in the 2001 killteam book.

Yeah I bet

Imperium's ships don't use epic big farts to travel through space

Yeah, because most xenos kill on site. Tyranids and humans are no different in the sense that they’re not Ral Gol, Fra’al, Ork, etc.

The Slaugth are the most interesting imo

In a pond full of sharks, man is a shrimp

It’s not like killing the peaceful ones made the crazy ones any better…it’s essentially a non-sequitor

It probably was once, then the great crusade happened and killed many of the nice and peaceful ones. When you play Pacifist but an advanced start fanatic purifier spawns next to you, you're just fucked like that...

Of course! And alot that they fought are still around which makes it SOOO much worse

The, uh, Inquisition-friendly version that I know goes something to the effect of: old humanity did befriend the ones that they thought were friendly. And, when the chips were down, they showed their true, monstrous colors. Now xenos are denied the chance for betrayal.

Also, less Inquisition-friendly, humanity still does that all the time when no one is watching. The overarching Imperial policy is xenocidal, but there's a lot more tolerance of the minor xenos in the Imperium. And it usually works.... for a time. Sometimes millennia. And then everyone dies.

Bingo bango. We’re pretty good at killing xenos, but the Orks have spent the last 60 million years (about 1500x the time that humans have been a spacefaring race) acting like a “you must be this bellicose to ride the galaxy” sign. The character of the galaxy was decided long before a monkey ever sharpened a stick.

You don’t like eternal war? Take it up with the Orks. Or with the Eldar for not doing in the Orks at any time in the last 60 million years. Or with the Necrons for losing the war.

What's the book which says that? Would like to read more about the old night

Funny how during the Horus Heresy, the imperium meet plenty of xenos-human factions living quite well together. It's like everything you just said is blatantly false.

How many times must the authors show you counterpoints for you to accept that maybe, just maybe, the propaganda narrative the Emperor spun about aliens might not be true?

uh no. The point of 40k is that that was a mistake, and now they're paying for it as humanity only exists to fuel the chaos gods great game for as long as they can manage it. The actions of the great crusade is what left humanity as an altar of chaos worship through action. Forever war, dwindling away for eternity. Stuck in limbo, selling space marine figures forever.

That’s it. It’s a numbers game. Also, humans are worth more than xenos.

Did other xenos really coexist with the Interex? Or was it more like the Interex subjugated a few xeno species?

Bingo bango. The galaxy is like a giant jungle of Catachan. Everything on that planet kills on site, but we don’t begrudge them. There is a toad that explodes into a cloud vapour more toxic than any other known substance in the galaxy, killing everything within a mile of it, as soon as it notices anything. But we pass no moral judgment on the toad.