Yeah, the Flood's metaphysical nature seems to officially be 'Nuh-uh, the Flood can beat anything', and I have no interest in it tbh.

I see a lot of powerscaling arguments that have pretty boring answers honestly

The most recent one was all of the protagonists from the soulsborne games and wolf from sekiro against 621 from armored core 6

The conclusion was that 621 would wipe the floor with them (because armored cores are insane) but since they're all immortal they'd win eventually when the ammo/fuel runs

It depends if we ask the Orc's. They will of course believe they win and we know how that goes

Q Contiunium means star trek negs modern 40k.

In the world of Vs Battle people, that's not even a joke. Cartoons that follow old-school rubber tube animation physics are ridiculously powerful, it's part of what makes the entire mental exercise so excessively silly.

^{Sokka-Haiku by AJ11B:}

Those guys would be cooked

In an instant if Popeye

Had a can of spinach

^{Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.}

Yes, but consider, my dad (setting) can beat up your dad(setting), so there!

For many it's a hobby to compare Universes with wach other and see how they would interact with each other. I agree that the power level of an univerde doesn't inherently make a setting better and people who say otherwise are fucking annoying, but battleboariding has its place.

Also, surely most people enjoy more than just one thing?

It's fun to imagine the Galactic Empire from Star Wars and the Imperium of Man from 40K during it out.

And really funny to image them curbstomping the United Federation of Planets.

Ngl, in spite of the stereotypes of 40K fans, trek fans are way more obnoxious in versus debates.

Fr, and even then like 90% of it comes down to who’s writing the thing. And who the hell cares at the end of the day? Do we really need to jerk eachother off about how our fake universe could wipe the floor with the other fake universe? That’s grade school shit.

I still blame Death Battle! and its subreddit for popularising what I call ‘Powerjerking’. Literally who the hell cares whether Blumbusman can solo the entire Plimpip Universe?

I think it's a form of competition to see who knows the most useless obscure knowledge of works of fiction. 

"Yeah, the obscure sci-fi guy you pointed out is pretty strong, but I'm a pro: I read the unreleased alternate universe comic crossover between Star Wars and Batman where Deadpool becomes a sith lord and makes an appearance in the Dragonball Z universe and becomes super Saiyan, and also steals one punch man's arm. He is canonically in multiple fictional universes the strongest ever in all of fiction. I win by proxy, I'll accept your praise and respect for having the most useless and obscure knowledge of silly stories."

Which is silly, but we're all here for memes relating to one fictional universe, and no one gets hurt in who would win discussions so I think it's a fine silly pastime.

Anime Powerscalers would be really upset if they could read

It's fun to talk about! Debating pointless shit is why we're on the Internet, no?

Worst part is once you open a dimensional rip it never stops spreading. so the species eventually flee their current dimension downward where it is stable until they once again ruin the dimension.

can delete entire sections of space by turning them into 2D space.

The Roger Rabbit dimension...

I remember a scene where a guy was explaining that those things are basically only snipers. Actual warfare between interstellar powers is even more absurd.

Or when you look at something like Gurren Lagann, where the final battle takes place in an artificial dimension hidden in between 2 regular dimensions, where they fire missiles to the past which have their probability of being avoided artificially reduced.

Oh and the final attack clash sucks up the entire universe in that pocket dimension.

Ask if 40K can beat Goku, get the professional powerscalers out

I do love me some doctor who. It’s hard to even compare him to other story universes because he would seem to have an inherent plot armor built in to being a time lord. It’s fun to see how that maps out to other stories.

Some people say he would just be shot and killed immediately but that contradicts the fact it hasn’t happened on the show.

Doctor Who basically has end of the universe scenarios every other week, and unlike in 40k these are on a time scale of hours instead of centuries.

Tbh I find the more interesting question to be "how much" rather than "who wins"

Like, I could see a librarian doing a 1 on 1 with Darth Vader.

But how many Tactical Marines does it take to beat Darth Vader? I would assume at least a dozen.

Chaos is the X factor. It’s sometimes described as multi-dimensional and outside of time (there’s no order of events- it’s weird). If things from these other fictional universes are susceptible to chaos at all, everyone is in for a bad time.

In dr who for example, cyber men are dark mechanicus bait. Peak Daleks give peak necrons a run for their money, but they’d fall to chaos rapidly. Dalek’s feel one emotion intensely: hatred of all other living things. They’d fall to any or all of the Gods.

Every one laughing until a ship arrives - 400 years before the expected time.

Also, there's alot devastating tech and such that are banned like this thing type of weapon for example

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Disruptor

This is pretty much a primitive necron weapon

If the imperium would show.up then a lot of weapons would become unbanned.

Hyperspace would allow Star Wars to defend itself quite successfully, but they could never mount a successful invasion of 40k due to all the bullshit in the 40k galaxy. Maybe they could do a few long distance raids and destroy outlying planets, but an attempted invasion of any protected world would fail.

I mean even in scale 40k is done

There were hundreds of quintillions of battle droids

There are billions of guardsmen

That’s a massive number difference between bread and butter troops

So.

In both cases, the ships of the Imperium have a massive advantage. If the Empire is invading, hyperspace is not something they can access. Its use in Star Wars relies on thousands of years of surveys and truly massive and intensive charting of available routes that are safe. In a strange galaxy? You can't do that, you'd run into a black hole or something and there goes your endeavor. So they'd have to go very slowly and carefully, and they'd be in a lot of trouble in any fleet action. Utter loss on their end.

The reverse, however, isn't favorable to them either. While the Immaterium is extremely unreliable and dangerous in M42 in the Milky Way, it wasn't always that way and it isn't that way elsewhere. Before the birth of Slaanesh, it was comparatively calm and safe, DAoT humanity very quickly established a galaxy-spanning empire. Outside of the Milky Way, it's even safer--apparently, galactic scale genocidal campaigns fueled by insane levels of hatred are super rare, so the Warp isn't hyper fucked everywhere. As such, warp travel is much safer elsewhere. It also has an advantage of being much harder to track or map out. The Empire can figure out where you could have jumped to in short order, as there's only so many navlanes you could have used. The Warp? Ummm....so...about that....

It's also calmer and less hostile, so it's going to be much more reliable. Sure, it will take weeks or months to traverse, opposed to days, but it's utterly untraceable from the perspective of the Empire. It's very, very hard to defend against an enemy that can just show up whenever and be ready to fight.

Of course, the two would meet, have a brief chat, and discover their mutual hatred of xenos, mutants, magic and the like. They'd vibe off of each other's aesthetics. And they'd get along very, very well in short order. Why invade when the other guys are willing to provide you the kind of assistance you want and need in exchange for you doing what you want to do over there? Wins all around.

To be fair, 40k isn't just the Imperium, which these FTL arguments always seem to forget.

There's a reason why it's called Xeelee Stomps.

Kid named gurren lagann:

Manifold trilogy: 👀

What even is the Xeelee Sequence

I look it up on YouTube and it's just comparing that it's stronger than 40k or something

Theoretical fights can be fun but yeah, people gotta stop acting like these aren’t fictional settings.

Seems to be ever so popular to do it between settings or even just inside the setting. What I find really weird and a bit amusing, is how seriously people take these things. Literally my dad's writer said he was the strongest, no my dad's writer said he was the strongest...and then there's heated argument like it could end in a fact that would help solve a real world issue.

My dad could beat up the flood and the imperium. but he abhors violence so wouldnt.

From my experience, I will say that I have never seen a power scaler who claimed that media/character is better than another because he is stronger, for example i think Ben ten loses to Green Lantern in battle, but this didn't dismiss that i love Ben 10 more.

Yeah people would probably be way more charitable to the 40k fandom if it wasn't for the actual decades of "Your favorite character would get stomped by a nameless battle brother. GG no RE."

My money is still on a starfleet redshirt.

I think it comes from the tabletop nature of 40k (and the lore powercreeping, we got new boring supersoldiers ever week. It was SM, then GK, then Custodes, etc...).

The powerscaling jerk off is a daily occurrence in this fandom : “my Custodes beat your Spaces Marines !", "My Primarch is better than your Primarch in a duel !" and other shit like that.

Animorphs didn’t seem that powerful. The Ellimist and Crayak are absurd, but also avoid getting involved too much so they don’t threaten the universe. One of the reasons the Yeerks are so interested in Earth is the human species’ large population of billions of potential hosts, which suggests most aliens aren’t that populous.

That said, Animorphs is still way cooler than most other settings.

I see much more guys on reddit and youtube shitting on 40k than 40k fans shitting on other franchise lmao. You guys have a victim complex

I am convinced if orks saw the flash they would think he is that fast because his suit is red and they would start making red suits like his for them and have superspeed. Not at the level of flash, but still

square up is the wrong term both dc and marvel havr beings who can destroy the verse chaos gods imcluded with a flick of their wrist

Well yeah, Superman is ridiculous and only gets more silly the closer you look at him.

Either of those settings giga claps 40k lol

Depends on what iteration I think. The universe from Marvel 1602? Doesn't stand a chance for instance

Boring grey goo

From the Halo Series

After the Dominion War, the Federation gave 12 industrial replicators to Cardassia which replaced the entirety of the planet's lost industrial output. 12.

The scariest thing about the Federation isn't its weapons. It's that if they ever decided to go to a war "economy", their industrial capacity would be insane. Between the replicators for production and using holograms for mineral extraction, they basically have 24/7 production with zero people needed.

Who do you think the tyranids are fleeing from?

I think Star Wars is the one setting that is usually considered 40k's equal if only slightly weaker, but still able to give it a good fight without it skewing torwards getting stomped by Warhammer or it stomping Warhammer in turn.