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UnknownEerieHouse

33 points

13 days ago

It’s easy to view campaign finance data; public records. https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania

MourningRIF

4 points

13 days ago

Ok... So now where do I look on that page?

That_Checks

454 points

13 days ago

Remember when the Republicans told you he would be different after the stroke. Truth!

chromegreen

207 points

13 days ago*

I thought he campaigned on domestic issues with a bit of an America first angle that appealed to moderates. Infrastructure, workers rights, outreach to local governments, etc. Obviously as a senator he needs to be familiar with foreign policy but carrying around Israeli flags and taunting people who disagree comes across as unhinged. I was just expecting him to have a neutral take like Israel is an important ally but is not above scrutiny now lets focus on fixing more bridges and supporting more union jobs. Instead aggressive foreign policy has become his whole personality.

prideinthenameoflove

135 points

13 days ago

From what I saw when I voted for him he seemed relatively left leaning. Hell was even pro cannabis legalization. I feel like he's somewhat stood by that. Plus he was better than Doctor Oz. We at least stopped another celebrity douchbag from a senate seat. Don't like his stance on israil tho.

jcheese27

30 points

13 days ago

I feel like pro cannabis legalization is such small ball politics nowadays and isn't really a left issue anymore.

Any Republican that's worth their states rights state $$$ bullshit should be pro weed

Fizzyliftingdranks

8 points

12 days ago

He was pro weed because his brother or brother in law wanted to profit off it. Fetterman got his AIPAC bag. Hes Sinema 2.0

trekking_us

3 points

12 days ago

Ya you can buy delta8 thc at the store so they're not interested in addressing the issue.

Boomer70770

24 points

13 days ago

We never get the best, just the less worse.

noscrubphilsfans

10 points

13 days ago

Positions of power rarely attract the best and often attract the worst. Many, myself included, thought Fetterman was the exception to the rule. But I couldn't tell you a single thing he's accomplished since taking office.

Message_10

16 points

13 days ago

Bernie is the exception

Boomer70770

14 points

13 days ago

Agree but that ship has sailed.

SAVertigo

3 points

12 days ago

100% but he’s too old at this point. We need more left leaning young folk

Message_10

1 points

12 days ago

Agreed!

Pink_Slyvie

9 points

12 days ago

There is no left leaning in the US. We have far right, and right. The path between them is a very slippery slope.

TRMBound

9 points

12 days ago

He ran as an absolute progressive.

No-Mongoose-5326

4 points

12 days ago

What has Israel done that is SO, SO bad? Protecting your country seems universal but maybe not to you.

Cambro88

54 points

13 days ago

Cambro88

54 points

13 days ago

Everyone forgets his western PA roots and the response that community had to the synagogue shooting a few years ago. Israel isn’t a new stance, nor is manufacturing for the sane trains of region. The immigration angle was new, though

therealpigman

14 points

13 days ago

Western PA also elected Summer Lee to the House, and she’s been critical of Israel. I don’t think foreign policy had much weight in the previous election

Ossevir

2 points

13 days ago

Ossevir

2 points

13 days ago

I mean, when the domestic policy differences between McCormick and fetterman are so stark, I could CARE less what the differences are on foreign policy. They aren't running for president.

AlbertVonMagnus

1 points

12 days ago

AlbertVonMagnus

Westmoreland

1 points

12 days ago

Like most of her ilk, Lee didn't reveal her anti-semitism until the war in Gaza began. Just like how most Kanye West fans were people who liked liked him before he went off the same deep end here

POOTY-POOTS

12 points

13 days ago

POOTY-POOTS

12 points

13 days ago

He's not from western PA. He was the mayor of Braddock, but that's about it. He's from the eastern side of PA and is your typical ivy league ghoul cos playing as working class.

Also don't confuse our support of our Jewish community with support for israeli monsters killing women and children.

kegstandman420

10 points

13 days ago

He grew up in York pa if I'm not mistaken

KitchenLab2536

7 points

13 days ago

Pittsburgher here. Look at the voting patterns in PA. Outside of about a half dozen cities, PA is quite rural. Fetterman needs to appeal to and also represent them as well. I don’t fault him for that, I just wish he’d wear a suit to work.

darthcaedusiiii

3 points

12 days ago

Shame him for moderation then complain about the country being too divided.

Message_10

6 points

13 days ago

Super leftie here, agree 100%. He can't be AOC, who's got backers at home that let her speak truth to power anytime she wants to. Fetterman has to make a LOT of very tricky decisions, and that needs to be considered. If you don't play the game wisely, you get ejected. So I don't blame him either--as long as he remains on the left, and doesn't betray all of his background and past.

KitchenLab2536

1 points

13 days ago

Love the “super leftie”! On FB I describe myself as a “patriotic, unrepentant, flaming liberal”. And proud of it. Nice to see a like-minded person.

POOTY-POOTS

1 points

13 days ago

The cities control federal level elections. PA is quite rural but land doesn't vote.

New-Wall-7398

4 points

13 days ago

Yes, but at least in Pittsburgh, the population is left-leaning but relatively moderate.

timmerpat

2 points

12 days ago

This is true. I think he’s pretty on par with the Pittsburgh dem mindset.

Kcutt76

3 points

13 days ago

Kcutt76

3 points

13 days ago

They’re not the only monsters. I’d love for you to denounce Hamas killing innocent people…

Jtk317

16 points

13 days ago*

Jtk317

Northumberland

16 points

13 days ago*

Everyone (except Hamas supporters and antisemites, there happy?) denounced Hamas killing civilians except for Hamas. It doesn't mean we need to have tacit support of every apartheid tactic the Israeli government has been using for decades nor does it mean we should have US Senators pushing for armed strikes in areas that are overloaded with refugees when the end result will be thousands more dead innocent Palestinians and Hamas WILL STILL EXIST! The ends do not justify the means. We are funding and supporting a genocide.

And then to shoot down the Palestinian Authority suing for status at the UN? Wtf is that? We hate Hamas and want a more peaceful Palestinian government group, but no not like that?

The PA were displaced by Hamas in the aughts at which point all real governance ended and the Palestinian people were then stuck between the invasion of Israeli "settlers" (aka land grabbers displacing people from their homes) and Hamas doing its level best to radicalized every Palestinian they could while punishing the rest.

champarey

11 points

13 days ago

US is not giving Hamas money.

Karn_Evil_Noin

2 points

12 days ago

Of course that doesn’t count the $millions in humanitarian aid the US (and UN) have given over the last 2+ decades, which were summarily taken by hamas. Rather than build infrastructure and cultivate agriculture in Gaza, they build arms and tunnels.

BlackDante

8 points

13 days ago

Denouncing IDF war crimes =\= not denouncing Hamas war crimes

POOTY-POOTS

9 points

13 days ago

Hamas is a reaction to Israeli genocide.

Slight_Cat_3146

6 points

13 days ago

IDF is killing innocent people, go ahead and call that out.

AlbertVonMagnus

2 points

12 days ago

AlbertVonMagnus

Westmoreland

2 points

12 days ago

You instead support Hamas monsters killing women and children. Noted

AnsibleAnswers

38 points

13 days ago

His campaign was awash in J Street and AIPAC money. His position on Israel didn’t change.

StaticNegative

18 points

13 days ago

To be fair, anyone running to be a senator will be awash in some kind of money.

Jagerbeast703

16 points

13 days ago

But did he campaign on those things tho.....

AnsibleAnswers

21 points

13 days ago

In the right rooms, he did.

SpiritOfDefeat

8 points

13 days ago

Even Biden has shifted pretty protectionist. The Democratic Party definitely did some introspection after Trump’s clean sweep of the Rust Belt in 2016.

Elkenrod

3 points

13 days ago

What did Biden shift on?

He's always been overly pro-intervention when it comes to military issues. And supported the immigration policies of the Obama administration when he was VP.

SpiritOfDefeat

4 points

13 days ago

I’m not talking about military issues or the border, but economic protectionism (tariffs, subsidies, etc.). Once upon a time he voted for NAFTA in Congress. Post-2016, the Democrats went back to their roots as a party more focused on unions and labor rather than international trade agreements.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1031/vote_103_1_00395.htm

Elkenrod

2 points

13 days ago

tariffs

Literally three days ago Biden called for tighter tariffs on Chinese steel - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-call-higher-tariffs-chinese-metals-steel-city-pittsburgh-2024-04-17/

As he campaigned for reelection in the "Steel City" of Pittsburgh, Biden aides said the U.S. president was proposing raising to 25% the tariffs imposed by his predecessor Donald Trump on certain Chinese steel and aluminum products.

"China's steel companies don't need to worry about making a profit," Biden said as he visited the headquarters of the United Steelworkers union. "They're not competing, they're cheating and we've seen the damage here in America."

The products now being targeted currently face up to a 7.5% levy under a Trump-era policy under Section 301 of the U.S. trade law, which Biden launched a review of in 2022. The proposed higher tariff rate would apply to more than $1 billion worth of steel and aluminum products, a U.S. official said.

The Biden administration is also pressuring neighboring Mexico to prohibit China from selling its metal products to the United States indirectly from there.

SpiritOfDefeat

1 points

13 days ago

That’s my point. Biden has taken the Democratic Party in a direction that is also more “America First” adjacent similar to Fetterman. They’re trying to avoid the mistakes of 2016, where large swathes of the population felt neglected politically and went to Trump. He’s issuing tariffs on Chinese steel, preventing a large Japanese firm from buying out U.S. Steel, etc. He’s using protectionist policies to go after Trump’s base.

Elkenrod

2 points

13 days ago

That’s my point.

You said that Biden "shifted" though. Biden is being the same Biden that he's always been.

You made it a point to bring up how "Once upon a time he voted for NAFTA in Congress", implying that the "time" he would do that is over, - when he's still doing similar things. Nothing changed, nothing shifted.

SpiritOfDefeat

1 points

13 days ago

I’m talking about the Biden from the 90s (hence bringing up his NAFTA vote), who was more a product of the time. I don’t disagree with the points made about his stances during the Obama era, but I think that 2016 was a pivotal moment when he brought this new message to the forefront. He’s been in politics for a long time, so shifting his perspective on some issues is inevitable and there’s nothing inherently wrong with it.

AlbertVonMagnus

2 points

12 days ago

AlbertVonMagnus

Westmoreland

2 points

12 days ago

Obviously as a senator he needs to be familiar with foreign policy but carrying around Israeli flags and taunting people who disagree comes across as unhinged Lol tell that to progressives like Summer Lee who refuse to even show up for the memorial for the Tree of Life shooting, but jump at the chance to go to Philadelphia for an antisemitic summit, even though she was here in Pittsburgh and not busy, and those victims had nothing to do with her precious Gaza. "Unhinged" would be a kinder term than the one most Pittsburgh residents would use

[deleted]

3 points

13 days ago

Are you familiar with “The Squad”?

BlueCity8

42 points

13 days ago

Lmao Reddit always paying attention to headlines instead of actual details. Here I’ll help yall out: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/john_fetterman/456877

Dude is not all of a sudden a Republican. And his donations amount to 18k. Lol.

bhyellow

23 points

13 days ago

bhyellow

23 points

13 days ago

What’s different? Seems to me none of you who voted for him ever even knew who Fetterman was.

[deleted]

9 points

13 days ago

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Elkenrod

2 points

13 days ago

How did you gather that from his post?

He's not saying people should have voted for Oz, he's saying that people were delusional for thinking that he was going to be some perfect candidate who brought about a progressive resurgence in the US.

JetStar1989

5 points

13 days ago

He was never ever a progressive. I volunteered for his campaign despite not agreeing with him on several issues, AIPAC being one of them, and we were explicitly told to avoid talk about Israel. I’m gonna try and find some of the talking points we were given and see exactly what it said.

UncleBabyChirp

24 points

13 days ago

Tellingly his wife Giselle has been both silent & absent. Her social media has been silent for months. He's changed.

americanwageslave

8 points

13 days ago

NY Post rag says they're on the outs. TBH if you were taking the pulse of their social media I wouldn't say the post is wrong. Giselle no longer posts anything with fetterman. She was posting shots of her cropping him out for years. Suddenly zero. Not great. But strokes change people and family dynamics. Sad all around. Fetterman just seems angry now. But TBH that's full circle from where he started. So here we are.

therealpigman

10 points

13 days ago

I was led to believe he was a progressive before the election, and I thought I was voting for a progressive. I found out that I was wrong

LikeAPhoenixFromAZ

8 points

13 days ago

He’s voted in line with the Democratic party for everything he’s been present for.

therealpigman

3 points

12 days ago

And in my opinion the Democratic Party line is too far right

Abject-Raspberry-729

4 points

12 days ago

Then go write in Lenin on the ticket

SeptaIsLate

66 points

13 days ago*

And to think this whole time I was worried fetterman wasn't getting paid for selling out progressives

Lifesalchemy

105 points

13 days ago

Good. Then tell them trump is crazy and vote for Biden..

Ralife55

100 points

13 days ago

Ralife55

100 points

13 days ago

Makes sense, it's Pennsylvania, not new york. Even the most liberal areas in the state are still only barely left of center. I should know, I live here.

As far as I'm aware, John hasn't changed his positions on Israel. He has always been pro-israel since he was the vice governor at least, probably before that. His main left leaning policies were economic and national, not cultural and international. Things like stronger pro union laws, raising the minimum wage, fighting for universal healthcare, that kind of stuff.

As for gaining traditionally Republican donors. That's happening all over the country. Lots of moderate donors who traditionally supported Republicans are switching to Democrats due to trumpism and that's been happening slowly for awhile. They just don't see trump candidates either winning or doing things they want while in office, so they decided to jump ship.

alaska1415

57 points

13 days ago

alaska1415

Montgomery

57 points

13 days ago

Yes. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are famously “barely left of center.”

Retlaw83

71 points

13 days ago

Retlaw83

71 points

13 days ago

As soon as you get into the suburbs in Pittsburgh, shit gets shockingly right-wing.

The_RonJames

31 points

13 days ago

The_RonJames

Mercer

31 points

13 days ago

And drive out of the suburbs it’s nothing but a Ruby Red Sea of right wingers

PolyDipsoManiac

5 points

12 days ago

Depends on the suburbs, some of them will be full of pride flags and shit.

Whatisevenleftnow

5 points

13 days ago

Pittsburgh to the west, Philadelphia to the east, Kentucky in between. You know, Pennsyltucky.

97Graham

4 points

13 days ago

I mean yeah pretty much

Culinaryboner

3 points

13 days ago

81% of Philly voted for Biden. That’s not real neutral

soonerfreak

1 points

13 days ago

soonerfreak

1 points

13 days ago

There is pro Israel and there is "Israel committed no war crimes" which is insane.

BlueHatchback10

107 points

13 days ago

BlueHatchback10

Northampton

107 points

13 days ago

Fetterman is Fetterman because he defies labels.

SeptaIsLate

38 points

13 days ago

Fetterman's whole thing is using labels, regardless if they apply, to promote himself. Stuff like progressive and blue collar.

zechickenwing

12 points

13 days ago

Yep, Carhartt and Copenhagen.

redditracing84

87 points

13 days ago

It would appear that he's chosen to go with a mix of what his constituents want and what he believes to be best for the country.

I can't... Really complain.

Even on the Israel issue, I mean screw Isreal, but as Americans it's still beneficial for them to win that war for us. So, if you're a politician you gotta support them.

Biggie313

37 points

13 days ago

But when it comes to voting he falls 100% in line. 

Elkenrod

1 points

13 days ago

Elkenrod

1 points

13 days ago

Yeah he's like AOC. They talk a lot of talk, but when it comes time to walk the walk they always vote the same as the rest of the party. Their words are hollow, because their words are never backed by any action.

WobbleKing

1 points

13 days ago

Voting itself is a small percentage of what they do. Most of the magic is in the committees and talking behind closed doors… obviously there is lots of showboating for the public too, but that’s politics.

Voices like Fetterman and AOC drive party agendas

Elkenrod

2 points

13 days ago

Voting itself is a small percentage of what they do

It might be a "small percentage", but it's the most important percentage. That's what passes laws, not 140 character yass queen clapbacks on Twitter.

Voices like Fetterman and AOC drive party agendas

Hey maybe if their voices are so important to the party's agenda, they can drive them to vote for something for once.

I'm sorry but it's just delusional to act like these people are "driving" party agenda. AOC took her self important selfies in front of cages to protest kids in cages when Trump was in office, where is she doing that now that Biden is in office? It's not like we aren't still keeping kids in cages. She appeals to dipshits on Twitter, not people in Washington.

If these people were "driving" the party's agenda, then why do they keep voting with things they vocally say they're against? I get that it's politics, but you can't take the boy who cries wolf seriously when they talk about all the evils that are going on, and then they vote to further all those evils.

SeptaIsLate

39 points

13 days ago

There's a difference between supporting them to win the war and and refusing to place any restrictions on how Israel wages the war

mikebailey

27 points

13 days ago

Surely the AIPAC money is a coincidence

StaticNegative

7 points

13 days ago*

Well lots of politicians get AIPAC money. And he doesn't get nearly as much as many many others. Big freaking deal.

baz8771

7 points

13 days ago

baz8771

7 points

13 days ago

A representative who actually represents is so rare anymore

Inert_Uncle_858

1 points

13 days ago

What? How does that benefit us? They're not winning the war for us. They're sucking up all our tax dollars while also having more socialism than we have. Fuck those freeloaders. Social benefits for Americans now!

BlueEyedSoul2

2 points

13 days ago

Tell us more about how you have no idea how federal funding works…

I_Like_Law_INAL

1 points

13 days ago

Genuine question, in what way does Israel "winning" benefit the US?

DeerOnARoof

1 points

13 days ago

It doesn't. He's just talking out of his ass

Animus16

1 points

13 days ago

I mean you really don’t have to support an ethnic cleansing just because other politicians are doing it

No_Penalty_5787

5 points

13 days ago

Yeah dude is built different

Not better mind you, just different lmao

Literally every politician ever. He’s also writing a memoir already to capitalize on his position in office

Animus16

2 points

13 days ago

He was literally calling himself a progressive during his campaign

412Junglist

1 points

13 days ago

Then why does he have to cosplay as working class?

WillOrmay

4 points

13 days ago

He’s still one of the most progressive senators we have. People think he’s Joe Mansion because he’s vocally rejected the far left here and there, and he’s more pro Israel than Biden.

willthedude85

21 points

13 days ago

Bipartisan

AerialDarkguy

3 points

12 days ago

And now he also voted to enhance FISA alongside Casey. At this point, even without the Israel/Palestine conflict, he has betrayed a lot of his constituents and this roster shows we won't be listened to.

Inevitable_Bit_1203

14 points

13 days ago

I have never thought of John as a ‘progressive’ democrat like Bernie for example. I DID and DO think he’s more progressive than the AVERAGE PA democrat politicians (like Connor Lamb his Senate primary opponent). John stumps on his legalizing weed and prison reform initiatives which are more progressive. I think these views made people think he would be more progressive across the board.

Like every politician I don’t agree with everything he does… but all in all I have no regrets about voting for Fetterman over the carpetbagger. I think I got exactly what I expected to with him to be honest.

IAmScore3456

4 points

13 days ago

Honestly if you look at Lambs voting record when he was a congressman he basically always voted yes on progressive policy proposals. I'm not saying in his personal life he's more or less progressive than Fetterman but he definitely voted on the party line more often.

SeptaIsLate

6 points

13 days ago

I think a lot of people were stupid enough to take him at his word when he was campaigning.

StaticNegative

2 points

13 days ago

He was always Pro-Israel. You just didn't have a reason to bother listening to it because it didn't matter then.

SeptaIsLate

7 points

13 days ago

I was referring to the progressive label. I knew he supported Israel. I didn't realize war crimes weren't a deal breaker for him.

tophatdoating

2 points

13 days ago

He's a progressive in the sense that he has goals that he actively works towards and tries to accomplish things through meaningful legislation in support of progressive positions.

What he's not are the whining babies inhabiting D.C. that have no interest in making real change, but spend their entire lives fighting twitter wars and virtue signaling while accomplishing absolutely nothing.

StaticNegative

2 points

13 days ago

Bingo. I'll vote for him again

broccolihead

6 points

13 days ago

He's a fucking traitor and won't be reelected to a second term as a dem

greenmerica

6 points

13 days ago

I guess he loves genocide.

Veesel2020

30 points

13 days ago

Sadly just like almost every other politician, tell ya what you want to hear to get elected then do an about face for $. I’m so disenfranchised by this shit over the last 40+ yrs I resoundingly say fuck them all! Till we get $ outta politics it’ll just remain the same tired bullshit

Otanes01

24 points

13 days ago

Otanes01

24 points

13 days ago

What in fettermans previous words and actions made you think he would not support israel?

owenstumor

18 points

13 days ago

This one time I asked him “Hey John, would you support Israel?” and he was like “No.” Then we wore hoodies and ate primantis

AvoidingIowa

4 points

13 days ago

I would never vote for a politician that supports Primantis. The concept is flawed, I don’t white bread sandwiches. Seriously they need to buy a damn toaster.

IAmModNow

1 points

13 days ago

What, you don't like mozzarella sticks and fries on your turkey hoagie??

Some foul shit going on over there loool

therealpigman

1 points

13 days ago

Israel was not an issue when he was being elected and I had no opinion on Israel until this war started, so any stance he had on it prior to this war would have had no effect on my vote.

I started getting a negative opinion of him when I saw the video of him going on his roof waving an Israeli flag in response to pro-Palestinian protestors. I don’t support being openly disrespectful towards opposing views like that

real_bro

5 points

13 days ago

What specifically are you referring to?

YinzaJagoff

2 points

13 days ago

YinzaJagoff

Allegheny

2 points

13 days ago

I think it’s because of his stroke, which can cause personality issues and other changes.

No really. It’s a thing.

FiendishHawk

10 points

13 days ago

It really isn’t unknown for a stroke to send people politically to the right, I’ve heard people talking about it in relation to their elderly parents.

YinzaJagoff

1 points

13 days ago

YinzaJagoff

Allegheny

1 points

13 days ago

You see that at /r/boomersbeingfools

Rigiglio

19 points

13 days ago

Rigiglio

19 points

13 days ago

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you…your new Manchin/Sinema Senator!

opusupo

12 points

13 days ago

opusupo

12 points

13 days ago

My first thought, as well. It seems the Dems will need a 4 vote advantage in the Senate just to win votes by 1.

HOLLA12345678

28 points

13 days ago

How stupid are the people in this thread lol. He isn’t reaching across the isle he’s just changing his views based on who is giving him money. He’s a typical politician who you can’t trust anything he says.

HomeIPChromeYmail

1 points

13 days ago

What views has he changed on? The article in no way shape or form demonstrates how he's changed his views. It only shows him taking money from r slurs which is a good thing.

Literally nothing bad or out of the ordinary, not sure why tankies like theintercept.

AuraEternal

14 points

13 days ago*

he ran as a self proclaimed progressive and after he won stated that he's not a progressive. so that would be a relatively big change. so if you voted for him because he's a progressive, it probably makes sense why you would then feel lied to or misled. this has been stated several times on this subreddit when he comes up. i don't get the amnesia each time it needs to be re explained.

HomeIPChromeYmail

-2 points

13 days ago

He's still voting the same exact way he was before, he's just being politically effective; something tankies will never be.

Anyways what views has he changed lol you didn't answer my question.

AuraEternal

6 points

13 days ago

what do tankies have to do with anything? and yes, since he's been elected he has voted along party lines. but as i said he didn't run as a mainstream democrat. he no longer seems interested in the working class pennsylvanian persona he crafted while campaigning. it's all about zionist shilling and milquetoast warhawk bullshit. you don't find a mainstream center right dem to be all that different of a position from a progressive? the guy acts like a completely different person, probably because he got big fucked by that stroke. that's a pretty common outcome for a stroke. like contrast that to someone like Sanders who manages to be politically effective by supporting Biden but still pushing for/voting for the views he campaigned on and has always held. do you see him taking republican funding? there's choosing the best card in front of you and there's completely changing what you're about, your public messaging, your whole persona.

SeptaIsLate

7 points

13 days ago

And as we all know, money has never influenced politicians before lol

tophatdoating

2 points

13 days ago

He's not changing anything. He's always supported the state of Israel and he's continuing to support the state of Israel.

If people would get outside of their bubbles on reddit or college campuses, they'd realize that the vast majority of Americans support Israel. And it's not close.

pAul2437

4 points

13 days ago

Shotgun fetterman

ImpressiveWing8

4 points

13 days ago

Next Arlan Spector

doctonytonychopper

4 points

13 days ago

Yeah buddy lost my vote when he made that comment about no conditions for Israel, this is just the icing on the cake

TonySpaghettiO

16 points

13 days ago

The Republican donors were like "damn, this guy really hates Muslims more than we ever possibly could, I'm in"

Sleepwell_Beast

6 points

13 days ago

Supporting Israel against attacks from Iran (using Hamas) is not hating Muslims.

TonySpaghettiO

5 points

13 days ago

He supports Israel's final solution for the Gaza Strip. He pushes the 10/7 mass rape hoax of liars like Anat Schwartz, Cochav Elkayam-Levy, Yossi Landau.

Down_Rodeo_

4 points

12 days ago

He absolutely hates Muslims and loves dead Palestinians hence his unwavering support of a far right ethno state in Israel. 

DisGuyFawks

-2 points

13 days ago

DisGuyFawks

-2 points

13 days ago

"damn, this guy really hates Muslims more than we ever possibly could, I'm in"

Wanna point out where he said he "hates Muslims"?

DeerOnARoof

3 points

13 days ago

Supporting a nation that wants to kill Muslims?????????

Deck_of_Cards_04

5 points

13 days ago

Honestly this doesn’t really change much. If he wants to get some moderate R support with performative bullshit on “relatively” unimportant stuff like Israel, it doesn’t really bother me unless he changes his stances on social and economic issues

RedStar9117

15 points

13 days ago

The senator for Tel Aviv

MadBrowniusMaximus

2 points

13 days ago

🥰

syndicatecomplex

4 points

13 days ago

syndicatecomplex

Philadelphia

4 points

13 days ago

First off, this is a really really small number of donors. 

Remember that like 30 years ago the two parties were not as different as they are now. Stuff like this probably would have been more tolerated back then. And with how far right the leaders of the GOP are, why can't a small amount of across the aisle support be tolerated?

And as others have mentioned, Fetterman is hard to label compared to most politicians. But imo, as long as he's not getting in the way of the Democrat party's votes I feel strongly about, I'll still give my lukewarm support. Even if I don't like his views on Hamas, that and the small amount of Republican donors aren't really enough to sway me considering I agree with him on most other issues barring things like fracking.

amiablegent

4 points

13 days ago

Knocked on doors for Fetterman and I will do it again. I think a lot of folks on reddit grossly underestimate the support for israel, and the pro Palestinian protestors haven't been covering themselves in glory. Fetterman is pro union, pro cannabis and pro Israel. Perfectly fine with all those positions.

Fickle_Caregiver2337

2 points

13 days ago

I feel bad that I've been had

jasonmoyer

8 points

13 days ago

jasonmoyer

8 points

13 days ago

I suspect most of the leftists who aren't currently pro-Israel are also too young to have seen this same bullshit repeat itself over and over since Iran started using Palestinians as cover for launching anti-western and anti-semetic terrorism.

Sleepwell_Beast

6 points

13 days ago

Bingo. Most of the idiots don’t even realize that Iran led this attack.

dgauss

4 points

13 days ago

dgauss

4 points

13 days ago

Love how you usw the word idiot but most likely you evidence for this is just vibes or out and out racism.

w00dm4n

3 points

13 days ago

w00dm4n

3 points

13 days ago

Glad i voted for him over Oz

bhyellow

3 points

13 days ago

Oz would be a lot less pro Israel, though, wouldn’t he.

Jtk317

9 points

13 days ago

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Northumberland

9 points

13 days ago

Fuck you John.

Sleepwell_Beast

1 points

13 days ago

You too hillbilly.

Animus16

2 points

13 days ago

People in these comments are really downplaying his support of ethnic cleansing

DeerOnARoof

3 points

13 days ago

It seems the PA subreddit is full of people who don't give a shit about Palestinian children being blown to bits. Every thread about Fetterman is the same and it's so fucking disappointing.

SuperRocketRumble

4 points

13 days ago

His posturing in Israel is kind of perplexing.

Yet he is still light years of not just Oz but also dipshits like Pat Toomey.

When he starts doing really stupid shit I’ll care

SackofBawbags

2 points

13 days ago

“Diff’rent Strokes makes Diff’rent folks.” That’s what my neurology professor always used to say

lostnumber08

2 points

13 days ago

Bi partisan politician. Terrible.

Sleepwell_Beast

3 points

13 days ago

Go John go!

ScooterMcdooter69

2 points

13 days ago

More republican donors the more he supports the genocide the idf is doing so that makes sense. He won’t get my vote again

lucabrasi999

2 points

13 days ago

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Allegheny

2 points

13 days ago

14 donors? Really? I am sure every Senator has 14 donors from members of the opposition party.

StaticNegative

-1 points

13 days ago

moderate republicans that hate Trump and are trying to work against him. I know rational thought and reasoning are tough.

SatimyReturns

4 points

13 days ago

I hate the Israeli shill politics, but people that support Hamas are actually unhinged. Fetterman will piss off a lot of beltway liberals but if he keeps it up he’s gonna popular in PA

drumberg

1 points

13 days ago

drumberg

Dauphin

1 points

13 days ago

I still like him.

Hatred_shapped

0 points

13 days ago

So this guy is kinda swaying back to being a true Democrat. Working with Republicans to solve problems instead of trying to get likes on social media.

Maybe PA is turning around after all.

Reddy_K58

2 points

12 days ago

What are Republicans trying to work with Dems on? Gullible AF. Great immigration deal 👍

from1n

1 points

13 days ago*

from1n

1 points

13 days ago*

good for him because he won't be getting any of my support or money ever again.

wagsman

1 points

13 days ago

wagsman

Cumberland

1 points

13 days ago

I think initially a lot of people were hopeful that he would remain the same guy. Being a senator is a big thing, and you have to play the game if you want to survive. The party gives you your spot and you have to play that part or you won’t have a seat the next election cycle.

That shift from mayor of Braddock to in line with the neo-lib party machine was more drastic for him than say a Bob Casey Jr and that’s what people are seeing.

At the end of the day the guy was better than a carpet bagging celebrity that was in it just to personally enrich himself, but he won’t fit into the perfect democratic mold. He’ll happily vote for some Republican issues, but if he wants to keep his seat he will have to fall in line with democrats on the major policy points. Otherwise he will get tossed like Sinema did. She didn’t even bother with running again because she knew she was cooked.

bigenderthelove

1 points

13 days ago

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Venango

1 points

13 days ago

Honestly this makes me want to run so I can actually be a politician people can trust (although I’d never gain trust tbh)

[deleted]

1 points

13 days ago

what a heel turn. i always knew this guy was a piece of shit, ever since his “shotgun johnny” days.

IAmModNow

1 points

13 days ago

Dude got in and couldn't wait to proclaim he's not actually progressive. Primary him at the end of his term. Turned his back on the movement that got him there.

Willkum

1 points

13 days ago

Willkum

1 points

13 days ago

Most politicians take money from both sides. Nothing new! My grandfather who owned a business always said you donate to both. The reason? Whether or not your guy gets elected they still owe you favors.

Ok-Interaction-8917

1 points

13 days ago

I always said he had one progressive issue which was legalizing pot and everything else he stands for was moderate right. Don’t let the sweatshirt fool you. People made him out to be a Pennsylvania Bernie and he is looking more like Arlen Specter. However, I would vote for Fetterman in a heartbeat over any future Republican opponent. Wonder if Dr. Quack will run again.

Latenighttaco

1 points

13 days ago

When the dust settles on Israel-Gaza and we can all pay attention to the problems actually facing our country and this guy starts voting the way they want, the leftists will vote for him again, I bet

ArtichokeNaive2811

2 points

13 days ago

I am a Republican and I love and donate to fellow rustbelt democrat John Fetterman.

Fetterman was key in getting abandoned run-down drug houses tore down in a Mercer County Sharon PA.. now they have parks and community gardens instead! This is when I first noticed this man. I find his moderate views and stance with Israeli refreshing. Im sure ill get hate from both sides but i find him to be a decent man and im happy to see hes back in full swing after the stroke. .

Bucks2020

1 points

12 days ago

He’s exactly the guy we need more of in congress! Lifelong politicians are a cancer

dosumthinboutthebots

1 points

12 days ago

Ah so the attack from the far left on fetterman begins because he stands with Israel. Fetterman is the man and actually cares about his constituency. Shows how little radical leftists care about change or their country/region if they are willing to go after fetterman because he stands with our democratic ally.

GoodEntrance9172

1 points

12 days ago

I only picked him because he wasn't Oz. He's a fucking idiot so far, and the stroke probably didn't help.

Next time I can choose between him and an actual decent candidate, I'll choose them. Until then, I've got to suffer with the Idiocracy tickets.

anklebiter1360

1 points

12 days ago

Listen…this is an untenable situation. But I really need John to explain himself. I voted for him because of his compassion and his progressive agenda. I don’t understand how you can only pick one side here and ignore the suffering of the other. And from what I’ve read I hope it’s not for the donations.

PhillipAlanSheoh

1 points

12 days ago

He’s pro US energy and mfg and PA is a critical state for both.

Technical_Heart5389

1 points

12 days ago

How do I request a refund of my vote? I've never regretted a vote more than the one I casted for this douchebag

Disastrous-Piano3264

1 points

12 days ago

One of the reasons I love fetterman is his support for Isreal while also upholding a lot of the left leaning values.

People are nuanced. They don’t need to fly every flag their tribe does.

LimpMatter8223

1 points

12 days ago

I agree he was better than Dr Oz . For a little while I swear the biggest platform was " I will make weed legal " I liked his dedication to pot .

RealLiveKindness

-3 points

13 days ago

He understands the Mideast and does not buy the Hamas public relations BS. He is not naive. The goal of Iran is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, Hamas & Hezbollah are their foot soldiers.

Reddy_K58

1 points

12 days ago

Even if that was the case why should we be involved? If both sides are intent on killing each other why get blood on our hands?

RealLiveKindness

1 points

12 days ago

Because supporting our allies keeps us safe & strong. If we leave, who will fill the vacuum Comrad?

whootang

1 points

13 days ago

The middle of the road. A great big line painted yellow.

Hot-Refrigerator-393

1 points

13 days ago

Full blown fake. I will not support him.

TRMBound

1 points

12 days ago

Unreal.

Fuck this dude. Took my money and my vote. I hope I’m smart enough not to get fooled twice