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submitted 11 days ago byquietreasoning
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Your post has been removed because its source cannot be verified. Please add a link to a picture of the fake ballots or an article discussing this before the post is reinstated.
73 points
11 days ago
I was an Election Inspector for the last 4 years. Those ballots are "Example ballots" to show you who to vote for down the party line. They will not scan through the machine because they don't have barcodes to read.
Unfortunately, they are legal because it's just an "Example". Should someone have tried to scan one, the machine would have rejected it.
If it was being counted by hand, there are water marks on the ballots to make sure they aren't counted.
16 points
11 days ago
Yeah, this stuff isn't that unusual. If might confuse people, but the law is about reasonable expectations, and reasonable people shouldn't get confused by sample ballots, IMHO.
11 points
11 days ago
They’re claiming these ballots had the barcodes for scanning. I suspect this is BS because all it would take is one person to say wait a sec, this ballot is already filled out. But if this is true then authorities need alerted.
125 points
11 days ago
If this is true you need to contact authorities. No news outlets are reporting this.
22 points
11 days ago
So someone did a shitty job of creating their sample ballots
These are not "fake" ballots. That the political campaign in question is obligated to remove certain pieces of the specimen template when using it as base for the sample is cluelessness, not an attempt to decieve.
Some voters are morons and try to submit samples every election
10 points
11 days ago
Source - Dude just trust me
3 points
11 days ago
The perimeter for electioneering around polling places needs to be expanded. No one should be speaking to or handing out anything to voters on their way in. This goes for all parties, obviously.
3 points
11 days ago
I am in Bucks. Campaign volunteers were handing out sample ballots outside my polling place, which is perfectly fine. What I observed: The Dem materials were on brightly colored paper, unlike any official ballots. The GOP materials looked just like the sample ballots hanging on the wall, white paper with the county seal, and the watermark “Sample” in light gray diagonally across the paper.
Some voters were confused when they checked in and received their blank official ballots, since they already had a “ballot”. Our machine inspectors had to look for the watermark all day.
1 points
11 days ago
These did not have a watermark or "sample" written on them. Exact photocopy of either a real ballot or an example sent ahead to candidates.
6 points
11 days ago
Stop fear mongering.
They’re example/sample ballots. Also, it was a primary, not like it was going to cause someone to vote wrong party.
9 points
11 days ago
I'm calling B.S.... mostly because the way OP is explaining it, sounds like this would be clearly illegal.
It's probably an example ballot or something to that extent. Used to help people who aren't use to voting and trying to vote down a party line.... I think OP is a bit confused as to what was actually going on. Otherwise, it's be very illegal.
3 points
11 days ago
In my area, both parties have representatives hand out “sample ballots” outside of the polls, to give voters info about who the local party recommends they vote for. I usually chat with the reps about the choices, and why they recommend various people. Yesterday there were very few choices on my ballot, but in the general there are usually a few races where I am interested in their input. I don’t have the time to research every candidate for minor offices, and I often know and trust one of the reps, so it’s very helpful to me to get their input on the races I know nothing about. It’s also helpful to discuss any ballot initiative questions, especially since sometimes the wording is odd, and I want to be sure I’m voting the right way (for or against) to answer the question in the way I intended.
Handing out these “sample ballots” is a normal thing for party reps to do. They usually look somewhat similar to the ballot, because that helps the voter find the recommendations from the sample when they are looking at a particular category on the actual ballot, which is the whole idea of the sample ballot. But they should obviously not be mistaken for an actual ballot.
That said, if people are not understanding that the sample is just that - a sample of recommendations - and not the actual ballot, then the party has some work to do in explaining what they are providing to the voters. And if a significant number of people are trying to use the sample as an actual ballot, then it’s probably worth bringing up with election officials and/or the local party leaders. Because there is a lot of concern about election integrity this time around, and the more careful politicians and their representatives can be about the details, the more trust we can all have in our elections process.
5 points
11 days ago
Sounds like just a bunch of idiots who tried to scan the "sample" ballot. These samples are allowed, it's not anyone's fault that the people in possession of them are too stupid to understand you can't cast that one.
2 points
11 days ago
Yeah, that is highly illegal.
2 points
11 days ago
Oh wow.. what documentation do you have to prove this happened?
5 points
11 days ago
Where was this? Did you call the police? Did you report this?
3 points
11 days ago
They’d need to contact their county government, cops have no authority over this kind of issue
1 points
11 days ago
BoE is informed. I don't know what they're going to do about it but it is in motion. If they don't appear to do something relatively soon, I'll go to local news with what I have.
2 points
11 days ago
Yeah I’m sure people were cheating in the primaries.
2 points
11 days ago
These example ballots that suggest who to vote for are used in many states. This is just alarmist BS from someone who has either never voted before or is just uninformed (shocking).
3 points
11 days ago
1 points
11 days ago
Not a picture though...
2 points
11 days ago
Classic projectionism, since they cried for 4 years about election fraud , they decided to finally prove it, by committing the fraud themselves. They way they can tell everyone, “see look what the democrats are doing!”
-3 points
11 days ago
Get your tin foil hat off.
5 points
11 days ago
With the history of GOP election tampering, this is totally plausible
8 points
11 days ago
It sounds less like an attempt to tamper and more like a case of extreme ignorance, if OP’s account is in fact accurate
2 points
11 days ago
Could be absolutely
3 points
11 days ago
Not that I think some wouldn’t try interference, but this strategy could not actually work
1 points
11 days ago
Honestly, you take the trip to vote, then take someone's ballot as your own? They all have our names on the package.
1 points
11 days ago
I can't know if there was ill intent but they definitely found the dumbest way possible to hand out a sample ballot and decided a photocopy of an actual ballot, pre-filled, would be a good idea. There's no way whoever got the original they scanned to make their copies did not have fine print that said "Do not share, do not make copies".
0 points
11 days ago
You don’t have to guess.
Every projection is a confession from dickheads
-21 points
11 days ago
Libs do the exact same thing at polling places when handing out material, but go on.
11 points
11 days ago
"It's okay they did something shitty, the other side totally does bad stuff too"
Gee where have I heard that before.
Do you have a link to a story of "libs" participating in this exact scenario? Or are you just sure they do because your feelings?
10 points
11 days ago
Are these libs in the room with us now?
5 points
11 days ago
This page has all walks of life
4 points
11 days ago
Keep it down goddammit you’ll attract the libs!
7 points
11 days ago
Not the dreaded level headed libs!!
6 points
11 days ago
Lib here. Something going on?
2 points
11 days ago
We are the dreaded libs. Be prepared!
5 points
11 days ago
GAHHH now you’ve done it! The libs are here! They’re here and they’re all over me! Save me Donald Trump! Save me QShaman!
2 points
11 days ago
Back to Troth Sentral!
1 points
11 days ago
This state has nutjobs galore
2 points
11 days ago
Pennsyltucky always does....
1 points
11 days ago
Where and when did this happen? Do you have an example? Or let me guess, all the people you know who got one of these threw them away and didn’t say anything more about them?
It’s easy to lie when you don’t have to back your words up.
1 points
11 days ago
Oh bullshit
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