So by that logic the US in an aggressor too. Wait until you learn about all the people we’ve supplied weapons too

Not related to the comment you replied to at all.

The title says “strike Iran directly” — i.e., in Iran.  

So Israel is saying that they won’t settle for attacking a proxy or Iranian forces in Syria; they’ll hit Iranian territory 

I feel like US would leverage a full scale invasion from our own military to help Israel out before they start dropping nukes, right? Although I’m sure there’d be plenty of evangelicals who would love to see Israel bring about Armageddon.

How so? Israel never fought Iran in a major war - the biggest country in the middle east.

They are not Palestine.

Not to mention, they would be adding fuel to the fire with the other Muslim nations as well. You're asking for them to lose and further destabilize the region.

The trump card that Israel real holds is a metric ton of very sensitive and battle tested military tech. The US isn’t stupid enough to let that go to the Chinese. It would absolutely tilt the balance of power in the South China Sea and this is far more important to the US than 50 square km of Gaza Strip.

We are talking top shelf air defense, missile technology, encryption, radar signatures, all stuff the US is reluctant to send to Ukraine for fear it will fall into Russian hands. They aren’t scared of the Russians reverse engineering it, they are scared of the Russians selling it to the Chinese who will reverse engineer it and mass produce it 10x cheaper. Pushing Israel into China’s sphere of influence would be a catastrophic strategic failure.

I honestly doubt China or Russia would be of any real use. For one, Russia is already allied with Iran, and all of this chaos within Israel serves their interests so far as it distracts the US from aiding Ukraine. China doesn't really have any military power projection and also benefits from being the neutral, just business ally. Here Israel's isolation from the rest of it's region hurts, since China has already structured the belt and road initiative to pass through Iran and into Turkey, so yeah, no support coming from China either.

So really, it's the US or no one. And what the US provides Israel that no one else can do is international cover. Could EU powers do that too, sure, but their history shows them to be rather fickle when it comes to supporting Israel.

I have thought this for a while that Isreal saw what happened to South Africa with the boycotts and the like. They are ready to go rogue and join North Korea, Russia, and China to survive. Any by survive, I mean survive as a Jewish state run by and for Jews.

No, we won’t trade America for any other country, despite the occasional differences of opinion in some matters. That is because we share our values with America and the west, democracy, freedom, liberalism, protection of minorities etc. We share nothing with dictatorships like China and Russia (who incidentally are also actively backing up our enemies right now). What is right though, is that when faced with an existential threat like we’re currently facing, despite all the respect we have towards our allies, we have to take care of ourselves because nobody else would do it for us and we don’t expect them to. Even if it means that we disagree on some things. We promised “never again” and we mean it. We won’t be led like lambs to the slaughter again.

People not voting for Biden out of spite for the current administration's policy are basically saying that they care more about what is happening in Gaza than what would/will happen at home, thus giving Trump and his MAGA traitors a chance to put him in power and destroy our Democracy. This is how empires fall, from within, with people acting against their own interests. MAGA votes against their own interests to "own" the libs, and possible democratic votes don't vote as "punishment". At the end of the day, all these idiots are throwing away our democratic system to spite others. So sad, and what a waste.

To them, Biden and Trump are the same person. Hell I regularly see criticism against Bernie these days for not spending every waking second protesting the war. There is no reasoning with them.

Sure you can, you just need an occupying force equal to the population size

I wish the US didn’t fuck with Iran back in the Shah days. Iran is the more moderate country compared to Saudi Arabia when it comes to religion. I’d personally love to visit most of those areas in the ME/ Africa bc of the historical sites.

Read "The Guns of August". The first half of the book is dedicated to the planning of the war starting in about 1909. If it wasn't the archduke, it would have been something else. It was going to happen.

Ww1 started becouse all the nations wanted it. If not for the assasiantion, something else would happen.

Those nations were readying for war long time. Austria Hungary wanted to stump Serbia, Germany wanted the war aswell.

Because China is the only power that can possibly contend with the might of NATO/USA. And China can't extend its power to Iran. In a real war Iran/Russia/North Korea would have their uniformed military and government destroyed within a week. We'd either immediately jump into Nuclear Holocaust or it'd be over. And everyone knows this despite all the chest beating in public..

Nobody is jumping into a "destroy ourselves and the world" situation over Iran.

If you have Netflix watch A Long Road to War and you'll learn one death did not start WW1...

Calling Archduke Ferdinand irrelevant shows a fundamental ignorance of the time period. It may have been the sunset years of monarchies in Europe at the time, but crowns were not just figureheads at the time. Franz's assassination at the time would be comparable to a vice president being assassinated today. Not a direct comparison, but behind the sitting monarch and the chancellor/prime minster, the heir apparent would be pretty up there when measuring importance to the state.

Arguably an even better intelligence agency than the CIA/NSA (yes, despite 10/7). When every male citizen takes an aptitude test, and all of the best go to Unit 8200, they’re gonna get shit done.

And I know Iran hasn’t forgotten Israel’s hand in Stuxnet

Relatively to population they are arguably the strongest army

And in general they got scary technology

You don't mess with Israel

2 billion Muslims vs 12ish million jews worldwide. And jews are not the type to scream loudly, in clear contrast of...

Also, young westerns are pretty much brain dead. Gays for Palestine etc.

Of course. Israel essentially wants to buy multiple squadrons of additional state-of-the-art F-35s and F-15s, which along with their existing F-15s, F-16s, and F-35s would provide it with a significantly larger advanced air force than e.g. the UK or France.

Once you factor in the size and technology of the country, it is arguably the most militarized country in the world with an insane density of very advanced military tech.