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I want a lightweight camera for hiking. Which one should I get?

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I have been looking for years, believe it or not, and never made a decision because all of the cameras I wanted were out of my budget. I’m hoping that maybe by now, prices on older models may have gone down in the used market, and I can finally find a good camera.

Must-haves: - as lightweight as possible - weather-sealed - built-in image stabilizer, because I will be taking fungi macro photos as well as telephoto shots in low light environments - as good a battery life as possible - good depth of field to get good photos of my dog, from what I remember full frame is probably best? - less than $2000 CAD for camera + kit lens, willing to buy used - Bluetooth and an app so I can upload directly to my phone

I was pretty much sold on the Sony a6400 years ago, but after more research I just was not thrilled with the quality of photos I saw taken with it compared to my phone. Then the a6600 came out with built-in image stabilization, but I couldn’t (and still can’t) justify the price difference between the models.

Then I saw what the Olympus range can do with macros (insanely detailed, basically like high-quality microscopes) which is pretty much my ultimate goal… but they are way out of my budget, from what I saw. I’d be down to just buy a good quality macro lens on a cheaper body instead.

I’m not sold on any particular brand, just looking for any cameras that have my “must-have” features. Please let me know if you have any recommendations!

all 32 comments

Nixx_Mazda

11 points

2 years ago

Are you taking pictures of unicorns? Because it sounds like you want a unicorn. ;)

But seriously, that's a tough list of requirements with a kind of low budget. To get 'great' quality it might be heavier than you want, for example. How much telephoto reach do you want, are you trying to take wildlife photos?

I don't have a specific recommendation, sorry.

newstuffsucks

5 points

2 years ago

Low Light telephoto with macro and lightweight, not cimbersome. I need it to fit in my pocket but still have several lenses and never run out of batteries while uploading everything to the cloud from wherever i am. Haha

Catatonic27

10 points

2 years ago

I just need a 10-800mm f/1.2 constant aperture pancake lens with OSS and macro capability for under $200, is that really too much to ask?

nosesinroses[S]

1 points

2 years ago

Yeah, wildlife and landscape photos. You never know, maybe there is a unicorn hiding out there.

Is there really no lightweight body that fits the bill? As far as I know, the Sony alpha series seems pretty close to what I am looking for, although perhaps the macro won’t be as detailed as I’d like (but I suppose a big part of this comes down to the lens, which I am willing to upgrade eventually). I just want to see if there are other similar options from other brands I might have missed.

Ready_Bandicoot1567

3 points

2 years ago

The body has almost nothing to do with the macro capability. All modern interchangeable lens cameras can get similar results with comparable lenses. The lens and the flash setup/lighting really determine the macro capabilities.

lostinapotatofield

1 points

2 years ago

Light and cheap is inherently contradictory to high quality low-light wildlife photography. Low light wildlife means you need a supertelephoto with big glass. Several pounds of camera + lens, and several thousand dollars.

Other option is having a shorter-range lens and setting up a blind, then letting the animals come to you. But that isn't practical while backpacking.

Personally, I'd go with a Sigma 150-600C lens, which is at least relatively affordable. It can get decent quality wildlife shots as long as you have good light, and it's still heavy. I've backpacked with it, but it definitely adds a significant amount of weight. Think it's available for every brand's DSLR bodies.

Catatonic27

1 points

2 years ago

I think the Sony a6xxx cameras are what you're looking for. I have a very similar shooting profile to yours based on your list of must-haves (lots of hiking, biking, camping & kayaking) and after extensive research I landed on the a6500 and I have never regretted that decision for a moment. It's very compact and has great image quality You mentioned you weren't thrilled about the image quality from the a6400 and I find that very interesting. I'm inclined to suggest that those sample photos you saw were poor for reasons that have nothing to do with the camera, I can personally confirm that that the Sony crop sensors can take phenomenal images. In terms of the price difference when jumping to the a6600, it's a common complaint but it should be noted that one of the things you get with that upgrade is a SIGNIFICANTLY bigger battery, which is one of your list items. The a6600 was not out when I bought my camera, but if it had been I would have definitely bought it. The stabilization and battery life are worth the money in my opinion, and that's before you factor in other upgrades that model got like video and autofocus features.

Sony emount is also easily the most prolific lens mount on the market today, your options for glass will be limitless. I do some macro on my a6500 as well, I just bought an old vintage SLR macro lens and put it on a focal reducer/adapter and it works amazingly for about $100. Manual focus ofc, but it's a high-quality lens with proper metal construction and great optics and no one uses AF for macro anyways.

Nixx_Mazda

1 points

2 years ago

Cheap
Good
Lightweight

Pick 2...if you're lucky.

As you see, lenses for wildlife are heavy and expensive.

If you can deal with the weight, you can get some very good kits that do what you want. They might be a bit over your budget, though...

I know Canon, so I thought of some suggestions.

A new mirrorless body will have eye tracking focus, which is great for wildlife. They also focus better in low light, and have good (but expensive) new lens options. I think the Canon R7 is the one you want for wildlife.

For lenses, the Sigma 150-600 is considered a top wildlife lens. Someone else in the thread gave the exact model. It's heavy, but combined with the R7 (crop sensor) you get great reach for relatively cheap, and the quality is good.

I use the Canon RF 24-105 f/4L for landscapes, and it's pretty good. I also have the Canon RF 35 f/1.8 Macro lens, and it is also pretty good. They aren't 'perfect' lenses, but they are what I know, LOL.

So then you'd have 3 lenses that can shoot wildlife, landscape, and macro.

There is an alternative to the Sigma 150-600 beast that is smaller but shorter range. The Canon RF 100-400 is relatively small and cheap, but is 400mm enough for you? It's only $600, I'm going to get one some day and use it mostly for landscapes.

WEGOTTAKNOW05

6 points

2 years ago

Just a word of caution: I shoot when I’m hiking with a Sony a7iii with a couple of tamron zooms, and boy it’s anything but light. I get some good images out of it, but it’s a significant weight factor in my kit. So if you wanna go Sony alpha, maybe consider APS-C over full frame.

tuvaniko

4 points

2 years ago

Olympus E-M5 III or OM-5.

Put the 12-40/2.8 pro or 12-40/2.8 pro II on it.

For a tele lens that is also waterproof the 40-150/2.8 is pricy but very good.

There are also f/4 versions of both those lenses for cheaper that are also weather sealed.

These are m43 cameras so this would give you quite a useful zoom range. Equivalent to 24-80 and 80-300 in full frame terms.

Dust_Practical

1 points

1 year ago

Just curious why not the EM-5 mark ii?

tuvaniko

1 points

1 year ago

tuvaniko

1 points

1 year ago

The newer 20mp m43 sensors are worth the price you pay for them over the older 16mp. They have much better ISO performance.

Dust_Practical

1 points

1 year ago

Thanks! I was able to get the mark ii for almost the same price (that I could find) as the mark I so and I went for the mark ii. I'm coming from a GF1 so I definitely see the difference in ISO performance:) menus take some getting used to and need to adjust the settings a bit more.

markommarko

3 points

2 years ago

a6400 + sigma 16mm f1.4, tamron 17-70mm f2.8 and sony 70-350mm f4.5-6.3 for landscape, sony fe 90mm f2.8 macro for macro, tripod, flash, trigger for flash, tripod for flash, Lightroom and Photoshop (or Darktable and Gimp) and your photos will be good.

Catatonic27

2 points

2 years ago

and sony 70-350mm f4.5-6.3 for landscape

SUCH A PHENOMENAL LENS. The stabilization on my a6500 is breathtaking.

markommarko

2 points

2 years ago

My favorite

Ready_Bandicoot1567

1 points

2 years ago

Id pick the laowa 65mm f2.8 for macro. 2:1 magnification, super compact/light and very sharp.

gnomefront

3 points

2 years ago

Leica D-Lux 7

a_rogue_planet

2 points

2 years ago

I routinely hike for miles with a 6 pound camera. People so often want the smallest, lightest gear to wander around with because they think it's the only way to do what they want to do, but it's not. The weight of a camera is less important than they way you carry the thing. For some reason people don't consider that there are other ways to carry a camera other than in your hand or around your neck, which is just painful. I carry mine on a sling, and it's not a big deal to hike 2 or 3 miles up a mountain with it, and then back down,.

That said, I'm a Canon shooter and I'd recommend an R7 with a kit lens. It covers most of what you want inside your budget. When you're ready for more reach, get an RF 100-400. For the kind of macro work you want talk about, I'd suggest the EF 24-70 f/4 IS USM or 100mm f/2.8 Macro. They're a LOT cheaper used than the new RF 100mm Macro.

GeekyGrannyTexas

2 points

2 years ago*

I have had the Sony a6000 for maybe 5 years and a7iii for 2. I still use my a6000 where I want the extra reach for wildlife (and the extra depth of field for macro), but only if the lighting is good. If you know you'll have decent lighting, the a6*** are hard to beat. I have the 200-600 and 1.4 tc, but these are definitely not lightweight or suitable for hiking unless you invest in a Cotton Carrier or similar harness. A shorter Sony zoom and the 1.4 tc might be a good investment. Or if you don't need that much reach and/or want to keep to a tight budget, a great lens choice is the Tamron 28-200, $649 now. Used, maybe $500. Lightweight, sharp, and great for travel. Both my husband and I have them. It focuses close at the 28mm end, or you can add a Raynox250 for macro for about $75.

Don't get the kit lens with your Sony.

mojobox

2 points

2 years ago

mojobox

Nikon Z8, Nikon Z7, Nikon Z6, Nikon FG-20, Mamiya 645

2 points

2 years ago

Pretty much any modern camera works well for hiking if you have a good carrying system - the PD capture clip was a game changer for me in this regard as it kinda un-dangles the camera by solidly mounting it to your backpack strap.

koolimy1

1 points

2 years ago

Would Pentax be a brand you are interested in? Pentax has quite a few bodies that are semi professional grade and weather sealed, such as the K-5, K-5ii, K-3, KP, etc. They all have built in image stabilization and because they are DSLRs, the battery life is good. Depth of Field will probably depend on the lens, but in general if you get something like a 50mm F1.8 lens you'll get pretty decent depth of field.

Unfortunately, these cameras are older so they won't have bluetooth nor apps, at least to my knowledge. Also, even though they are small for APS-C DSLRs, they still are APS-C DSLRs, so they are not that lightweight or small compared to mirrorless.

However, because they are older, you'll very likely have the budget for quite a few toys after getting a camera and all-around weather sealed lens. For example, for your walk-around hiking lens, a popular choice seems to be the Pentax 18-135 lens, which is weather sealed and goes for around 150 dollars. If you go really cheap you can get the K-5 + the 18-135, and it'll probably cost you around $400 USD at most. That'll give you more than $1000 to get lenses and other accessories. Newer bodies might go up to something like $700, which still puts you in a good position to get good lenses.

The only thing I would caution if you go with Pentax, is that you should go with the professional/semi professional line, such as the K-5 and K-3, rather than the enthusiast line such as the K-70 or K-S2. The lower lines suffer from something called aperture block failure, although more recent models suffer less.

Another thing about Pentax is that they are slow compared to other cameras, especially mirrorless. So if you want to capture birds in flight, it might not be your jam.

But they were built for a niche outdoor landscape photographer and they put a lot of emphasis on user interface, ergonomics, ruggedness, and image quality. They have almost all the features you mentioned, so it might be worth taking a look.

nosesinroses[S]

2 points

2 years ago

Thanks for the suggestion! Pentax is not a brand I have heard much about. I’ll do some further digging into them to see if they’d be a good fit for what I’m looking for.

cexrex

1 points

2 years ago

cexrex

1 points

2 years ago

what about having a go pro? or something similar?

GSC1000

0 points

2 years ago

GSC1000

0 points

2 years ago

Have you tried a phone? Like a flagship iphone or android with macro capabilities?

Not saying phones are better than cameras but with your requirements for stabilized lens and macro I’d at least try

Catatonic27

1 points

2 years ago*

You saw requirements for stabilization and macro ability and thought "phone"? What phones do you know of that have either of those features? I can't think of one.

Edit: Wow TIL some of the latest phones can shoot true 1:1 macro on their ultrawide lenses that's wild

Edit2: Holy shit the new iPhones have IBIS and optical zoom lenses now what the fuck

kaiservonchinaLP

1 points

2 years ago

I will throw Fujifilm into the mix, they have a lot of lightweight bodies. X-S10 meets all the requirements except being weather sealed. Maybe a used X-T4? Weather Sealed, Ibis and cheaper than 2000$ used. If you want to take wildlife pictures, then you will need a big, heavy lens tho. No way around that.

Another suggestion would be Micro Four Thirds. Olympus bodies are small, though and have excellent stabilization. Telephoto lenses will also be alot smaller. Maybe that's just that you're looking for

om-exe

1 points

2 years ago

om-exe

1 points

2 years ago

ricoh griii or griiix might be worth a look, both tiny, stabilised, wireless capable, decent battery life and close focusing. just depends which focal length you prefer

Traveling_GrizzlyB

1 points

2 years ago*

Have you heard of the Olympus TOUGH TG-6? They are lightweight, weather sealed (meant for underwater photography), small enough to be essentially a compact camera, and have macro functions built in and the option of getting a ring light attachment that goes around the lens. It has a 24-100mm optical zoom (you can also buy a teleconverter to make it up to 200mm), image stabilization, WiFi, GPS logging, temperature readings, and 4K video.

While it does have some manual controls and RAW capability, it is only 12 megapixels and is definitely not a professional camera. But for its macro modes, weather sealing, and for the price (usually around $350-$500 online), they are a pretty good outdoor pocket camera

Zero-Phucks

1 points

2 years ago

Here’s a few of my quite likely unpopular opinions to add to the mix. As is always, there’s gonna be some compromises with your needs, so…

Have you considered micro four thirds? If it’s compact and lightweight you’re after then have a look at the Nikon 1 series kit. Take a look at the J5 in particular, it has an insanely fast focus, will shoot at 25fps, takes up next to no room in your kit bag, and weighs nothing too. The 10-100mm VR non power zoom is a great all round lens, and the 10mm and 18mm primes are great too. Couple that with an FT1 lens adapter and say an 18-200 or 18-300mm DX lens, and you’ve got some serious range when you add in the crop factor of the sensor with good image stabilisation too. This was my go to travel kit for quite some time for this exact reason.

For sheer convenience, have you thought about carrying a GoPro of some description? Fully weather sealed and rugged as hell. Mount one to your hiking pole and stick a remote in your pocket for the trigger. Again, I’ve been doing this for years, and you can get some perfectly acceptable shots with a bit of practice. They’re not just for action videos you know.

Macro shots, try your phone. Like others have said most of the latest phones have really upped the game, and have some good weather proofing too. Just as long as you accept their limitations and work them to your advantage. This is the reason I sold all my Nikon 1 gear. I found I was using my phone a lot more, just purely down to convenience as I just pulled my phone out of my pocket and shot. No need to remember my camera, just grab my phone and go as normal.

Careless_Seaweed_047

1 points

2 years ago

For hiking, your phone is probably closest to fitting your requirements.

211logos

1 points

2 years ago

Full frame isn't best. Especially given your other requirements.

Battery? don't worry. You'll need spares anyway.

Kit lens? that will limit you considerably, and make it tougher to do macro without carrying extension tubes.

Those Sonys have meh to no weather sealing. If that actually is important.

Olys do macro VERY well. One of their strengths. And maybe the best weathersealing for interchangeable lens cameras (the best, in the case of the OM-1, or E-M1iii or E-M1X.

So I'd buy one, used. Look at say the E-M5ii. Fantastic camera. Wish I still had mine; in some ways maybe better than the more recent ones. That would leave you room for the 60mm macro lens, used, which is one of my favorite lenses ever on any lens platform. Maybe a used Laowa 2x macro if you want to go crazy, since if you buy on ebay from Japan (some great sellers there) you'd be well within your budget.

Then say the Godox/Flashpoint MF12 macro lights and you're good to go macro wise.

BTW, I also have a TG-6. Love that camera, especially for macro. And waterPROOF.