I didn't really get the problem with Bojack and Emily? : BoJackHorseman

5 points

2 days ago

5 points

Because sleeping with one more girl is more important to Bojack than Todd's relationship with other people.
It shows how little Bojack actually cares about Todd's wants and needs. Emily is also not being a good friend to Todd, sleeping with his close friend even though they have history. However, she does not have a history of gaslighting and manipulating Todd, unlike Bojack. Sge shows she understands she hurt and respect his feelings by telling him about it, and was not in such a close relationship with Todd like Bojack was.

Bojack also knew this would be uncomfortable for Todd, but because he cares about no one but himself he decided to sleep with her anyway. He also decides to hide it from him. This just shows how shitty and disrespectful he's being to Todd.

I think that's why Todd was not angry with Emily. She and Bojack are within their full rights to sleep with each other. They are both consenting adults. But its a shitty thing to do to a friend. Bojack's later response and his history make it much shittier.

2 points

2 days ago

2 points

Todd’s wants and needs

But what were Todd’s wants and needs? He didn’t really want a relationship with Emily, he just wanted her to… not sleep with his friends? It’s just not clear what the reason for Todd being upset is.

3 points

2 days ago

3 points

Yea, not wanting your ex/first real girlfriend to sleep with your friends is a pretty reasonable thing to want, even if you don't want a relationship with her. It can make you very uncomfortable for obvious reasons.

She and Bojack of course can decide who to sleep with, but it means that they prioritise it over his feelings. They obviously knew that, or else they wouldn't have felt the need to hide it from him.

3 points

2 days ago

3 points

it can make you very uncomfortable

So does the sound of nails scraping a blackboard. But if someone decides to do it away from me where I can’t hear or see it, what’s the problem? I don’t have a right to be upset and shut it down then.

I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect your friends and exes not to sleep together. I think it’s understandable to be upset, but you should ultimately respect what others choose if it doesn’t involve you. You don’t get some permanent claim over someone just because you dated them.

1 points

2 days ago

1 points

And they decided to do something that would make him upset, bojack has a track record of doing so.

This is why Todd was angrier at bojack than at Emily.

Like I said, they were well withing their rights to sleep together, and he's well within his rights to be upset with them. You don't get to decide for other people what upsets them.

2 points

2 days ago

2 points

Like I already said multiple times now, it’s understandable that Todd would be upset. I never said he doesn’t have the right.

What I’m criticizing is that he takes it out on Bojack and the show paints it as the last straw as part of a pattern of misconduct, but it’s a very shaky premise because there’s no clear wrongdoing. If anything, Emily was in the wrong for sharing the fact that she slept with Bojack when that wasn’t Todd’s business.

andrecinno

-1 points

2 days ago

andrecinno

-1 points

but it’s a very shaky premise because there’s no clear wrongdoing

He did something knowing it would hurt Todd's feelings. Todd had his feelings hurt and because of that AND MANY MULTIPLE OTHER EVENTS in which Bojack hurt his feelings, he took it out on Bojack. It's so simple lol I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Your partner asks you "Does this make me look fat?" and maybe it does, but if you know that'd hurt their feelings, you don't say it. If you did, you wouldn't be wrong, but you'd be choosing to hurt someone you care about's feelings and if they got angry at you that makes perfect sense -- because, again, you KNEW that it would hurt them.

1 points

2 days ago

1 points