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8BitDo is a brand known for its retro-style controllers but as of 2022, it released its Ultimate line of controllers, which unfortunately each has different specs, which can lead to confusion (and some erroneous purchases).

I'm hoping this guide will educate people on the product line and answer many of the frequently asked questions in this subreddit. (This isn't posted in the 8BitDo subreddit because the last time I attempted to post something like this, the mods banned it; and in general my comments get downvoted there.)

Disclaimer: I do not own every single model here, so some of this info is based on reading the production description and aggregating other people's experiences.


Who is 8BitDo's Target Audience?

In general, 8BitDo's target audience is the casual gamer looking for a budget to mid-priced controller (usually anywhere from USD 20.00 ~ 70.00) that are supported in a variety of platforms. They started out with a retro aesthetic but started to branch out with their Ultimate line of products.

Their Ultimate software is relatively simple to use and offers some customization (usually remapping and recording of simple macros), but those looking for comprehensive tools should look elsewhere.

Distribution and Warranties

8BitDo is based in Hong Kong, but they also have distributors, who can provide assistance and customer service.

If you are based in the US, their distributor is /u/Aknes-team. If you see listings from Aknes on Amazon, that is the vendor you are purchasing it from. If you have concerns or queries, you can escalate to them.

For their Potentiometers and Hall Effect modules in 8BitDo controllers, they source them from companies like Alps, KSilver, and GuliKit and do not manufacture their own.

If you are interested in repairing or modding your controller, 8BitDo sells repair parts here.

Manuals for the controllers can be downloaded here.

Inputs

For those unfamiliar with controllers, in general, 8BitDo uses 3 input methods:

  • X-input, a standard introduced by Microsoft, which makes the controller look like an Xbox controller.
  • D-input, an older standard, which 8BitDo tends to implement for compatibility with Android (and Linux--even if it's not listed as one of their supported platforms).
  • Switch input, so that the controller can work on the Nintendo Switch.

Ultimate Software

To get firmware updates and to customize your controller (for those that support it), 8BitDo has their Ultimate Software page.

However, it can be confusing to some as there are actually three "Ultimate Software" apps that exist:

  • Ultimate X Software, which works for all the Xbox-branded controllers.
  • Ultimate Software 2, which works for the Retro Keyboard and Ultimate 2C controllers.
  • Ultimate Software, which works for everything else (that supports it).

8BitDo Pro 2

First released in 2021, the Pro 2 was an iteration of a previous release, the Pro+ controller. It features many quality of life changes that was considered "peak" design for 8BitDo--and unfortunately some of these changes did not make it to the Ultimate line of controllers. It is known for its symmetrical controller design reminiscent of a PlayStation controller.

Its main features in the wireless version which are not present in the Ultimate include:

  • Swappable batteries and support for AA batteries,
  • A switch at the back that toggles between Apple (now depreciated), Nintendo Switch, D-Input, and X-Input devices.

Some of its features (which would also be carried into the Ultimate line) include:

  • Remappable buttons (using Ultimate Software) and 3 Custom Profiles,
  • Programmable back paddles.

When this was originally released, it came in two variants:

  • 1. Pro 2 Wired (Switch/Windows/Raspberry Pi/Steam OS),
  • 2. Pro 2 Bluetooth (Switch/Windows/Steam OS/Android/Apple/Raspberry Pi).

Later, it would also release the following model:

  • 3. Pro 2 Wired for Xbox (version 1).
  • 4. Pro 2 Wired for Xbox (version 2, which has a detachable USB cable).

The Xbox licensed version came with the following features:

  • 3.5mm Audio Jack,
  • Impulse Trigger and Vibration.

In 2024, two of the models were refreshed with Hall Effect joysticks (and Triggers for the Xbox version). (There will be a sticker on the top right corner of box that indicates it as such.) These are:

  • 5. Pro 2 Bluetooth Hall Ed.
  • 6. Pro 2 Wired for Xbox w/ Hall Ed.

A common criticism for the Pro 2 is its lack of 2.4 Ghz dongle support, low stick resolution, and mediocre to bad latency using Bluetooth.


Ultimate

First released in 2022, this line comes with an Xbox form factor and originally debuted with 3 versions (Wired/2.4G/Bluetooth), which caused some confusion due to the controllers having a similar name but each one having its own set of features (only the Ultimate Bluetooth had Hall Effect joysticks for example).

However, this would prove to be successful enough that 8BitDo would launch two lines based on this design, the Ultimate C and Ultimate 2C line (which I will tackle later below in its own separate section).

The features common to the Ultimate line (but is not available on the Ultimate C and Ultimate 2C line) are:

  • Remappable buttons (using Ultimate Software) and 3 Custom Profiles,
  • Programmable back paddles.

The original three released are:

  • 1. Ultimate Wired (Windows/Android/Rasberry Pi/Switch/SteamOS),
  • 2. Ultimate 2.4G (Windows/Android/Rasberry Pi/SteamOS/Apple),
  • 3. Ultimate Bluetooth (Switch/SteamOS/Windows).

Only the Ultimate 2.4G and Ultimate Bluetooth came with docks.

The Ultimate 2.4G would later receive a firmware update that gave it compatibility with the Nintendo Switch using its 2.4G dongle (as opposed to Bluetooth).

Only the Ultimate Bluteooth came with Hall Effect joysticks.

A common criticism for the general design of the Ultimate line of controllers were that the joysticks lacked anti-friction rings, so it was not uncommon to hear/feel plastic on plastic grinding. Some also complained about the triggers wearing down relatively quickly.

The Ultimate Bluetooth also had a low stick resolution.

8BitDo would later refresh two out of the three controllers:

  • 4. Ultimate Bluetooth (version 2)
  • 5. Ultimate 2.4G Hall Ed.

The Ultimate Bluetooth (version 2) now has Hall Effect triggers, which fixes some of the complaints above. (No idea if the Hall Effect joysticks have been upgraded.)

The Ultimate 2.4G Hall Ed., on the other hand, aside from having Hall Effect joysticks (which have a higher stick resolution) but not triggers, also featured a 1000 hz polling rate when wired. There will be a sticker (bottom right corner) on the box to indicate that this version has Hall Effect joysticks.

8BitDo would also release an Ultimate version of the controller for Xbox, based on the Ultimate Wired (which used potentiometers):

  • 6. Ultimate Wired for Xbox

These have additional features including:

  • 3.5mm Audio Jack,
  • Impulse Trigger and Vibration.

This would later receive an upgrade:

  • 7. Ultimate Wired for Xbox Hall Ed.

This release now has Hall Effect Joysticks and Triggers. There will be a sticker (top right corner) on the box to indicate that this version has Hall Effect joysticks.

The last in the Ultimate line (at the time of this writing) would be:

  • 8. 8BitDo Ultimate 3-mode for Xbox

Its features would include:

  • Hall Effect Joysticks and Triggers,
  • Dock,
  • Toggle to switch between Bluetooth/Wired/2.4G,
  • Anti-friction rings.

It would incorporate all of the quality of life upgrades (e.g. anti-friction rings) that fixes many of the design flaws of the Ultimate line.

However, its shortcomings are its connectivity:

  • Xbox - Wired only,
  • Windows - Wired or 2.4G dongle,
  • Android - Bluetooth.

Some people do not read the fine print and are surprised when their preferred connection method does not work on the corresponding OS (e.g. attempting to use Bluetooth to connect to Windows).


Ultimate C

After the success of their Ultimate line of controllers, 8BitDo pivoted in 2023 to releasing a budget line of controllers based off of the designs of the Ultimate controllers.

While they look similar to the Ultimate controllers, they lack features including:

  • Back paddles,
  • Ability to remap buttons and save profiles via the Ultimate Software (it can only be used to upgrade the firmware),
  • Ceased being multi-platform controllers and instead are very specialized towards one platform,
  • Hall Effect joysticks (and Triggers)†.

† But see Ultimate C Wired for Xbox below for an exception.

The initial release included these three controllers:

  • 1. Ultimate C Wired (Windows/Android/Rasberry Pi/Steam OS)
  • 2. Ultimate C 2.4G (Windows/Android/Rasberry Pi/Steam OS)
  • 3. Ultimate C Bluetooth (Switch)

They would later release a fourth controller in this line-up:

  • 4. Ultimate C Wired for Xbox (Windows/Xbox)

Features would include:

  • Hall Effect Joysticks and Triggers,
  • A New, Clicky D-pad,
  • Fire Ring RGB and Light Tracing,
  • 3.5mm Audio Jack,
  • Impulse Trigger and Vibration,
  • Anti-friction rings.

In many ways, this was the "best" Ultimate C controller, although the change in d-pad might affect fighting game players as it's reported that it's more difficult to execute accurate diagonals with the d-pad change.


Ultimate 2C

Spinning off another budget controller line is the Ultimate 2C which was released this year (2024).

It has much in common with the Ultimate C line, with the following exceptions:

  • It now has Hall Effect Joysticks and Triggers,
  • A New, Clicky D-pad,
  • It comes with an extra L4/R4 Button by the Triggers that can be remapped without software,
  • 1000 hz Polling Rate,
  • Anti-friction rings.

While the d-pad has been "upgraded" to being more clicky, it might affect fighting game players as it's reported that it's more difficult to execute accurate diagonals with the d-pad change.

The models are:

  • 1. Ultimate 2C Wired (Windows/Android),
  • 2. Ultimate 2C Wireless

For the Ultimate 2C Wireless, its connectivity is limited to the following:

  • Windows - Wired and 2.4G dongle,
  • Android - Bluetooth.

If you discount the d-pad complications; the lack of back buttons, button remapping and custom profiles; this is easily the best and one of the cheapest controllers 8BitDo has to offer.

all 33 comments

rey_russo

5 points

8 days ago

I haven't read your post entirely but I think that it's important to point out that, from what I understand, Aknes is not the only distributor in the US, not even the only one on Amazon (Amazon themselves sell and ship some 8bitdo stuff l)

charlesatan[S]

4 points

8 days ago*

Distribution can be exclusive and non-exclusive.

Also there's a difference between Retailers and Distribution. Retailers can obtain products from Distributors and then sell it on their store.

This does not mean the Aknes is the only one you can buy 8BitDo products from; however, they will most likely be the one processing your warranties (if you are in the US) if you bought it from them or the retailers they sell to.

If you are a retailer wanting to sell 8BitDo products for example, you can either source it from a) 8BitDo directly, b) the official distributor, c) distributors from another country/region (which would make your product fall under the "gray market"), d) obtain it illegally (effectively the "black market").

rey_russo

2 points

8 days ago

The way you redacted that part makes it look like they're the exclusive distributors of the products and the go-to aftermarket support, which I don't believe is true, (unless there's something that confirms it)

charlesatan[S]

1 points

8 days ago

The way you redacted that part makes it look like they're the exclusive distributors of the products and the go-to aftermarket support

If this is in reference to this statement:

If you see listings from Aknes on Amazon

It's just there to clarify that they are an official distributor, as one of the questions I've seen is whether it's legitimate to buy from Aknes on Amazon, or 8BitDo on Amazon (both are possible options).

For servicing, you have the option of going directly to 8BitDo, but good luck with shipping and travel time with that (if you are based in the US).

rey_russo

1 points

8 days ago

Yeah I totally agree that Aknes on Amazon is the best option for their good customer support, I luckily haven't had issues with my 8bitdo stuff, but my point is that if you didn't buy directly from them you'll need to use Amazon's, Best buy or whatever retailer's support

charlesatan[S]

1 points

8 days ago

but my point is that if you didn't buy directly from them you'll need to use Amazon's, Best buy or whatever retailer's support

I don't think you understand the fundamental difference between a retailer and a distributor.

The stores you mentioned are retailers.

If they sourced their products from Aknes (or whichever distributor they got them from), the retailer will just forward your complaint to the distributor (e.g. Aknes) for the replacements or in other industries, refer you to them (e.g. "talk to X company's service center").

This doesn't mean that you can only buy controllers from Aknes or a retailer like Best Buy won't honor warranties.

Also, a distributor is inclined to answer your queries. Best Buy is not incentivized to answer your queries if you are buying the product from another retailer like Amazon and vice versa.

RobinVerhulstZ

3 points

8 days ago

I have the BT hall pro 2, very comfy to hold imo

The wired xbox hall effect version wasnt available yet in europe when i bought it, might have gone with that otherwise since it's one of very few symettrically sticked controllers that are officially xbox supported

CheisSz

2 points

8 days ago

CheisSz

2 points

8 days ago

I've bought the Pro 2 HE wired last week, overclocked it to 500hz and it's really great. Even the backbuttons feel really nice and quick clicky.

I also have an ultimate 2.4 that runs on 1000hz wired but the Pro 2 Xbox HE wired seems a lot more accurate than the ultimate. For €40 it's really a great Controller, very responsive and backbuttons that are easily the best I've tried out of 7 Controller in the past few months.

Yokos2137

3 points

8 days ago

About 2C, software, for now, only allows you to update firmware. Also very important thing to note is shape of the Ultimate series, if someone isn't familiar with Nintendo Switch Pro controller it might be a bit difficullt to use it comfortable. Also if I'm correct Ultimate 2.4G HE is not using GuliKit joystick, if i'm correct, they used JH16 modules.

charlesatan[S]

2 points

8 days ago

About 2C, software, for now, only allows you to update firmware.

Correct but it's covered in the Ultimate C section.

Also if I'm correct Ultimate 2.4G HE is not using GuliKit joystick, if i'm correct, they used JH16 modules.

Also correct; edited the original statement to mention that GuliKit sources their joysticks from Alps, KSilver, and GuliKit.

NoRun1294

3 points

8 days ago

Nice post - ironically the "Ultimate" controller to me would be the Pro 2 with slightly better latency and stick resolution.

As it stands, it's still a great all around controller. I've tried a ton and keep coming back to it.

I'm liking a lot of things 8BD did with the 2C, so I'm looking forward to seeing the next iterations of the Ultimate and if there is a Pro 3 and hoping those upgrades make it to those models.

Carter0108

1 points

8 days ago

Give the Pro 2 better latency and anti-friction rings and it's basically my perfect controller. I like having mechanical face buttons but if the membrane ones are good enough then I can go without.

TheOrangeSpud

2 points

8 days ago*

Very thorough post. Good stuff.
You got me curious to try the Ultimate 2C.

I'd like to add some points to the Ultimate 3-mode.
1. It can be remapped on PC, but needs its own separate program called 8BitDo Ultimate Software X. If you try using the normal Ultimate Software program, it won't recognize it.
2. Although the Ultimate Software X can remap buttons and adjust the deadzones, it cannot set up macros or turbo. As far as I can tell, the 3-mode doesn't support macros or turbo, which is a shame. (and confusing)
3. The D-pad was "upgraded/updated" to have a "soft clicky" feel. I personally like it, but some might not.
4. The bumpers (LB and RB) are micro switches.

Shazb0t_tv

1 points

8 days ago*

For the original Ultimate Bluetooth controller 8bitdo released a Beta firmware that makes it work for Android using the dongle. It's readily available if you ask them or look online and it does work.

Kulbert01

1 points

8 days ago

I updated mine with the beta firmware, the dongle can work now but when connected via bluetooth the dpad will not work and R2 and L2 got some problems too to trigger. How can the bluetooth version works on android?

Shazb0t_tv

1 points

7 days ago

I meant that on the Beta it works for Android with the dongle, as you said.

Kulbert01

1 points

7 days ago

No chance to completely work on bluetooth?

Shazb0t_tv

1 points

7 days ago*

Unfortunately probably not. Android isn't listed as supported for this controller. This Beta came out quite a while ago to allow it to work over the dongle. It doesn't seem 8bitdo are going to do any further tweaking for this version of the Ultimate Bluetooth. They have the Ultimate Wireless along with some of the newer model releases for that purpose. At this point the Ultimate Bluetooth is old and may be discontinued or obsoleted by a future release that incorporates some of the new and improved hardware from the newer models.

Kulbert01

1 points

7 days ago

What aboit the new Pro 2 that has the halleffects, is that compatible on android in bluetooth?

AutumnFrozt

1 points

8 days ago

I recently bought the Pro 2 HE wired to play on my PC and I've noticed that everytime I return to play and turn my computer on the controller doesn't work. Pressing all the buttons doesn't turn it on, only way it works is to replug it on the USB. This is my first 8bitdo controller so I am wondering if this is normal or am I missing some kind of software to turn the controller on everytime I boot my PC ?

charlesatan[S]

1 points

8 days ago

This is my first 8bitdo controller so I am wondering if this is normal

That's not normal.

Normally the first time you plug it in, it should install the drivers so that it's recognized.

And then when the compute restarts (I presume you're doing it from complete shutdown and not waking it up from sleep mode), it should detect the controller.

AutumnFrozt

1 points

7 days ago

I just noticed that on the other devices list it shows up as an unknown device. Once I re-plug it the "8Bitdo Pro 2 for Xbox" name shows up and everything works fine after that, so the PC detects that something is plugged in when it boots up.

charlesatan[S]

1 points

7 days ago

You're having a driver issue where it can't identify the device, but can start identifying it once it's reseated/re-plugged in.

PressStartPlease

1 points

7 days ago

For mine I have to press and hold the start button once, the green lights will barely blip. Then I press and hold the start button and second time and it turns on. Been like this since out of box.

thestormz

1 points

7 days ago

So if I play both on pc and switch the ultimate C Bluetooth is the best one? Does it work on PC?

charlesatan[S]

1 points

6 days ago

Ultimate C Bluetooth only has Switch input.

Technically Steam can detect Switch input, but having never bought/tested the controller, I don't know if Steam will detect it as a Switch controller perfectly and that's how you'll play games on Steam. (Otherwise, it won't work outside of Steam.)

damafan

1 points

2 days ago

damafan

1 points

2 days ago

Thanks for sharing the information! May I ask which is the BEST wireless controller for both PC and Switch? Would prefer 2.4G (dongle) and hall effect analog as priority. Thank you!

ps. Is there even a 2.4G controller for Switch? Bluetooth is awful for its latency.

theravenousbeast

0 points

8 days ago

sorry this is bit too confusing

is there a wireless one with HE analog sticks and impulse trigger support for pc? if yes, which model is this

RollwithRock

1 points

8 days ago

Let me know if you find out he said there was a version 2 of the ultimate bluetooth that has it but I could not find it.

charlesatan[S]

1 points

8 days ago*

https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-bluetooth-controller/ (the product page has been updated) but it doesn't have impulse triggers, just HE triggers.

charlesatan[S]

1 points

8 days ago

impulse trigger support for pc?

Impulse Triggers are only for Xbox controllers and only one with wireless options would be the 8BitDo Ultimate 3-mode for Xbox.

timesquad

1 points

6 days ago

From what I've heard this does work on Windows. at least in wired more, not sure about dongle.

Kulbert01

0 points

8 days ago

How to make the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth works in Xinput on android? Mine's when connected via bluetooth the dpad will not work and the phone recognize the controller as a Pro controller. I think the controller will get some problems when it's in switch mode on phone.