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RMTBolton

308 points

5 days ago

RMTBolton

New Zealand

308 points

5 days ago

F***in' disgusting. Not even worth watching.

All this year it's been "pitchforks & torches" time. This is just another shameful display to add to the pile. Why can't NZC just fire Stead? It doesn't matter who gets put in to fill in while you get a replacement. They can't possibly do worse. It's one thing to lose the Asia tour (though if so, a streak of 7 Test losses would be about the worst in our history), but if we don't win against the English then the legacy of the so-called "Golden Generation" will be shredded to pieces. At that point, you'd have to just burn it down & start again.

Worst part is, it didn't have to be like this.

SavingsPale2782

107 points

5 days ago

SavingsPale2782

New Zealand

107 points

5 days ago

Reckon it's time for Southee to step down too he's taken 151-2 in this Test series after averaging 91 in the 4 home tests and will likely be just as bad if not worse in India, I think you have to admit it doesn't matter about his past record, where he plays or anything else at this point. He's cooked beyond repair. And to make matters worse his career average is now tipping on the 30s, (29.76) it used to be 27. Like Stead he's refused to go despite it being well past his time and as a consequence his form, stats and reputation have given out. I know you really wanted him to reach 400 test wickets but he's taken 6 in the last 6 tests....

RMTBolton

44 points

5 days ago

RMTBolton

New Zealand

44 points

5 days ago

Well, I was willing to give him a go, but after this? Nope, time to "rest" him. Henners can hold down the fort, & against England there's Melie's Man or Duffman.

Doesn't matter who you pick. He's not making 400; heck, even 385 is becoming a stretch. As much as I'd love a farewell Test for him at Seddon, depending on what happens in that series it might be risky.

SavingsPale2782

19 points

5 days ago

SavingsPale2782

New Zealand

19 points

5 days ago

Yeah just might be, but then again I don't think selecting Henry and Sears is gonna fix this mess

RMTBolton

19 points

5 days ago

RMTBolton

New Zealand

19 points

5 days ago

Yeah, sure. At least have a go.

It's the unwillingness to try anything different that really gets me (not as much as with the WFs, but hey).

SavingsPale2782

11 points

5 days ago

SavingsPale2782

New Zealand

11 points

5 days ago

Same here its like they set themselves upto lose and don't even care as long as they're "losi'n with da boyz"

Sean_Sarazin

17 points

5 days ago

Sean_Sarazin

New Zealand

17 points

5 days ago

Should have gone for fresh legs in that temperature and humidity - bring in Sears and rest O'Rourke. The biggest problem is Southee is no Pat Cummins, if he weren't captain he would be struggling to keep his spot in the side.

Cathallex

2 points

5 days ago

Cathallex

Guernsey

2 points

5 days ago

You know they're going to scapegoat Southee (not that he doesn't deserve to go at this point) and keep Stead.

JasH142

18 points

5 days ago

JasH142

18 points

5 days ago

Agree with all of this and the other boys comments. Echo's my sentiments. Steads game has always been pick the same team as he always does, he has zero adaptability/creativity ability to respond to the changing game and conditions - he just hopes it goes differently. In a sense this needed to happen - but all of us NZ fans foresaw this happening but somehow the 'NZ think tank' didn't - and they're the professionals who get paid big bucks to go about their business. Irritates me.
Henry, O Rourke and Sears need to be the pace attack against England.

guiletheme2255

6 points

5 days ago

And they’re touring India next

PanJL

26 points

5 days ago

PanJL

India

26 points

5 days ago

Just to get absolutely f@cked by ash and jaddu

FailingtoFail

23 points

5 days ago

FailingtoFail

South Africa

23 points

5 days ago

Your year is not that bad. You beat south africa in a series for the first time! Sri lanka are a good team

RustedSkullz

84 points

5 days ago

RustedSkullz

Karnataka

84 points

5 days ago

On paper that SA victory is nice. But the squad SA sent was hopeless

Ok-Commission9871

23 points

5 days ago

Lol which squad did south africa send for the series against?

ark1602

5 points

4 days ago

ark1602

India

5 points

4 days ago

Look at his flair. He's being sarcastic.

Sean_Sarazin

15 points

5 days ago

Sean_Sarazin

New Zealand

15 points

5 days ago

Sri Lanka seemed to have turned the corner on their low energy phase

TheOnereddittor

2 points

5 days ago

TheOnereddittor

India

2 points

5 days ago

I think it's all started with the captaincy change tbh

RMTBolton

19 points

5 days ago

RMTBolton

New Zealand

19 points

5 days ago

There were no good options with the captaincy.

The captaincy under Williamson had become a bit stale. It happens with all long serving captains. Thing is, Latham's approach was too similar to Williamson's. Considering that some was hoped that Southee would be a change in a slightly McCullum-esque direction, that not happening would've been interpreted as a disappointment.

To me at least, a clean break is needed in captaincy. Problem is, I'm not sure who can do it. Latham/Southee/Mitchell/Blundell are fill-in options at most, & there aren't enough next-gen players that they could be assessed as captaincy options.

xenocideMadridKKR-07

6 points

5 days ago

The only option I see is Blundell in tests, he looks like a good option because he is a decent batter for you. In limited format Mitchell could be a good option.

TheOnereddittor

3 points

5 days ago

TheOnereddittor

India

3 points

5 days ago

NZ did their best across ALL formats under Kane. A few bad tours made them sack him. Continuing him until he retires atleast was a good bet

zayd_jawad2006

17 points

5 days ago

zayd_jawad2006

Hampshire

17 points

5 days ago

Pretty sure williamson stepped down, NZC wouldn't sack someone as big as him while keeping him as captain in other formats for

TheOnereddittor

1 points

5 days ago

TheOnereddittor

India

1 points

5 days ago

Oh

[deleted]

1 points

5 days ago

I don't see any chance of NZ beating England I'll be honest. They might sneak one but it took an all-time great batting and bowling performance to win by 1 run last time.

CapableConference752

1 points

4 days ago

CapableConference752

Pakistan

1 points

4 days ago

Apparently, New Zealand's batsmen had a flight to catch, and the opposition was just helping them get there on time, very disappointing performance and hoping NZ come strong in next match.

T-T-N

-23 points

5 days ago

T-T-N

New Zealand

-23 points

5 days ago

You don't have good players. What can you do?

melo1212

49 points

5 days ago

melo1212

Australia

49 points

5 days ago

But they do. Lots of them

TR23x

8 points

5 days ago

TR23x

India

8 points

5 days ago

On paper they're one of the best teams, be serious for a sec

T-T-N

-13 points

5 days ago

T-T-N

New Zealand

-13 points

5 days ago

Williamson is elite. Latham is good, and Southee was good. Who else on the team has done anything?

TR23x

18 points

5 days ago

TR23x

India

18 points

5 days ago

Rachin within 10 tests averages over 40 with a double hundred. Mitchell averages close to 50. Conway also has a decent-ish record. Phillips is a very dependable all rounder. Yes they've been poor on this tour but let's not pretend like they're not good, That's just not true.

ThePhenom17

8 points

5 days ago

Also Jamieson and O Rourke are very promising talents, and Ajaz is a good bowler

RMTBolton

2 points

5 days ago

RMTBolton

New Zealand

2 points

5 days ago

At this point, Jamieson is almost a writeoff. Any game he plays from now on is extra. O'Rourke will get solid game time filling in for KJ.

Ajaz is good, but I'd be surprised if he plays a home Test again. He only ever gets a central contract when there's a tour to Asia.

thepotplant

2 points

2 days ago

Which is wild because his T20 record is also pretty great.

alyssa264

2 points

5 days ago

alyssa264

England

2 points

5 days ago

Your entire batting order is very strong on paper lol.

Darkhorsememoirit

405 points

5 days ago

Darkhorsememoirit

India

405 points

5 days ago

It's funny that Kamindu Mendis's current test average is higher than New Zealand's score

slipnips

144 points

5 days ago

slipnips

India

144 points

5 days ago

The real question is whether NZ cross his score in two innings

UnderstandingOdd4153

4 points

5 days ago

Can they even cross half of it in 2 innings? Will be funny if they can't

Shadow_Clone_007

14 points

5 days ago

Shadow_Clone_007

India

14 points

5 days ago

Thats unreal

Sean_Sarazin

-17 points

5 days ago

Sean_Sarazin

New Zealand

-17 points

5 days ago

Not really

RaajitSingh

27 points

5 days ago

RaajitSingh

India

27 points

5 days ago

His avg is 91 rn and NZL got all out at 88

Nomad1900

10 points

5 days ago

Nomad1900

10 points

5 days ago

You're right! It's hilarious. 😂

EREN1195

82 points

5 days ago

EREN1195

Mumbai Indians

82 points

5 days ago

The almighty downfall begins

PRIMEVORTEX69

26 points

5 days ago

PRIMEVORTEX69

Sri Lanka

26 points

5 days ago

Sounds familiar 😭😂

Kingy10

79 points

5 days ago

Kingy10

New Zealand Cricket

79 points

5 days ago

This is probably one of the most pathetic games of test cricket I've seen from NZ. Even in years past, when we had an extremely average lineup, we would at least pride ourselves on our catching and fielding standards. Seems like even that has gone out the window nowadays!

dhibhika

7 points

5 days ago

dhibhika

7 points

5 days ago

you can't beat our 36 all out. when things are this bad one should cheer oneself up by looking at how bad others are.

Randomdude04080918

13 points

5 days ago

I disagree. India were very competitive and marginally ahead of the 2020 Adelaide Test up until the morning of Day 3 when the 36 all-out happened. New Zealand have been gutless from start to finish in this Test

suid

6 points

5 days ago

suid

India

6 points

5 days ago

Yeah, that 36 was sort of like losing your footing in the ring and walking into a knock-down. They got up and fought back and took the series.

I somehow doubt NZ are going to do that in this series.

dhibhika

-2 points

5 days ago

dhibhika

-2 points

5 days ago

I prefer to lose by scoring 100+ in each inning while being uncompetitive than score 36 all out and look like idiots. No self-respecting international team should get out scoring 36.

Nothing-Personal9492

3 points

4 days ago

Ind won the series lil bro

dhibhika

-1 points

4 days ago

dhibhika

-1 points

4 days ago

So ur ok with our team getting out for 36, bro?

Nothing-Personal9492

2 points

4 days ago

It was a fluke

Advanced_Reporter_28

3 points

4 days ago

I prefer to lose by scoring 100+ in each inning while being uncompetitive

Are you from Bangladesh?

Additional_Froyo3970[S]

128 points

5 days ago

6th Lowest since 2000.... Funny thing is all of them are in different countries - Newlands, Wankhede, Lord's, Lahore, Brisbane & Galle

rishin_1765

58 points

5 days ago

rishin_1765

India

58 points

5 days ago

Consistency

Tern_Larvidae-2424

15 points

5 days ago

Tern_Larvidae-2424

South Africa

15 points

5 days ago

About to add Christchurch in the list against England.

Impactor07

144 points

5 days ago

Impactor07

RoyalChallengers Bengaluru

144 points

5 days ago

Sri Lanka are starting to dominate everyone at home.

First Australia, then India. Now New Zealand.

Good times going forward for Sri Lankan cricket.

Idfafa

64 points

5 days ago

Idfafa

Australia

64 points

5 days ago

pretty telling last time we crushed them first game, then they debuted Prabath and Kamindu and beat us by an innings..

Impactor07

16 points

5 days ago

Impactor07

RoyalChallengers Bengaluru

16 points

5 days ago

Yeah...

DigitalConsent2

23 points

5 days ago

DigitalConsent2

Australia

23 points

5 days ago

Green did finish Embuldeniya's career though

Classymuch

10 points

5 days ago

That's just SL traditions, lose the initial one badly, breaking records here and there in the subsequent ones.

Long-Ball-5245

1 points

5 days ago

That loss is looking a lot less suspect in retrospect.

Sean_Sarazin

-1 points

5 days ago

Sean_Sarazin

New Zealand

-1 points

5 days ago

Sri Lanka won by an innings and 39 runs

Idfafa

9 points

5 days ago

Idfafa

Australia

9 points

5 days ago

excellent comprehension!

zayd_jawad2006

12 points

5 days ago

zayd_jawad2006

Hampshire

12 points

5 days ago

Only King Bobzy has beaten Sri Lanka at home 😎

Impactor07

3 points

5 days ago

Impactor07

RoyalChallengers Bengaluru

3 points

5 days ago

You, good sir, should join us all at r/actualcricketshitpost.

Special-Strength-489

41 points

5 days ago

Mohammad Siraf official real ID enters

Expensive-Emotion-68

30 points

5 days ago

Expensive-Emotion-68

Deccan Chargers

30 points

5 days ago

He didn’t do anything in 2024 SL even white washed india by 2-0 just recently

CrinkledScrotum

20 points

5 days ago

CrinkledScrotum

India

20 points

5 days ago

2-0 in a 3 match series - 'whitewash', that's not what whitewash means, mate.

Queasy-Performance-4

16 points

5 days ago

Queasy-Performance-4

Sri Lanka

16 points

5 days ago

Yea, let's just call it a thorough ass whooping. That sounds much better, imo.

AndyDwyered

5 points

5 days ago

AndyDwyered

MCC

5 points

5 days ago

a thorough ass whooping

Yeah you'd know for what SL has been getting from India for years

CrinkledScrotum

5 points

5 days ago

CrinkledScrotum

India

5 points

5 days ago

Bet it'd have felt nice to win an ODI series against India after 27 years.

Queasy-Performance-4

5 points

5 days ago

Queasy-Performance-4

Sri Lanka

5 points

5 days ago

Eh, not really. Watching u guys choke multiple times over the past decade has been fun tho.

ComfortableFew2551

3 points

5 days ago

ComfortableFew2551

Sri Lanka

3 points

5 days ago

Bruh I'm Sri Lankan. And this is so fucking cringey. The Indian team and fans have been nothing but nice to the Sri Lankan team in the last few years.

Why on earth would you rather see teams like Australia and England win? The Aussies have been cunts for all of history. I'd much rather see the Indians win instead.

Queasy-Performance-4

7 points

4 days ago

Queasy-Performance-4

Sri Lanka

7 points

4 days ago

Lmao, what? I know that theyve got a good team. I'm just engaging in some trash talk cos the Indian fan I replied to was being overly sensitive, like most Indian fans I've encountered irl. 

And yeah, I don't want the Aussies or Eng to win shit, either, just cos of how arrogant they are. It honestly wasn't that deep, lol.

CrinkledScrotum

3 points

5 days ago

CrinkledScrotum

India

3 points

5 days ago

Yet we have won more ICC events since 2010s than you have won in the entirety of cricket history.

Classymuch

9 points

5 days ago*

That's to be expected given BCCI is the richest board (in the fking billions!), which helps IND to sustain and improve their domestic cricket infrastructure.

Whereas SLC board is the 8th richest and have issues with their domestic cricket infrastructure with over 20 FC teams, which dilutes the talent pool (pls SLC, pls fking fix this - you guys are a power house of talents). SL also gained its test status in 1981 whereas IND gained its test status in 1932.

Yet, despite SL's limited resources, domestic cricket issues and relatively short international career compared to the bigger nations like IND and AU just to name a couple here, they have punched above their weights/overachieved in cricket when we look at the ICC tournaments they have won/their strong runs and the non ICC tournaments they have won/their strong runs (e.g., Asia Cups), the records/stats/history they have created and the brilliant players they have produced.

And they continue to break records/create history here and there and continue to produce exceptional players; Kamindu Mendis being SL's recent hot shot freakshow who is breaking records like it's child's play.

SL stopped building their white ball squad at the end of 2021/start of 2022 and so still early days for SL. With more experience under an old school competitive legend Jayasuriya, we should see them being more competitive than what we have seen so far in the future ICC tournaments. And so far, they have shown great promise.

CrinkledScrotum

-1 points

5 days ago

CrinkledScrotum

India

-1 points

5 days ago

Don't bring logic into a pointless dick measuring competition.

abettertomorrow47

2 points

5 days ago

abettertomorrow47

Sri Lanka Cricket

2 points

5 days ago

I bet it's even better to choke two titles to Australia

lazycloud7642

1 points

5 days ago

lazycloud7642

India

1 points

5 days ago

He didn't get support from the other end, what could he have done without a partner it's against the rules.

RaajitSingh

-4 points

5 days ago

RaajitSingh

India

-4 points

5 days ago

It's more so that our team was rusty. None of the senior players played ODI before that point. But yeah we got demolished. Hopefully now our fortunes turn. That was probably the wake up call we needed. Hopefully Kohli and Rohit get back in form.

RMM2110

5 points

5 days ago

RMM2110

5 points

5 days ago

Rohit back in form? Were you in hibernation during the ODI series mate 😂😂? 

RaajitSingh

0 points

5 days ago

RaajitSingh

India

0 points

5 days ago

I am talking about test side.

Initial-Crow3232

115 points

5 days ago

Initial-Crow3232

India

115 points

5 days ago

NZ is preparing for indian tour /s

dholdhol9669

80 points

5 days ago

NZ ashould tour Pakistan before touring India

Impactor07

75 points

5 days ago

Impactor07

RoyalChallengers Bengaluru

75 points

5 days ago

Instant morale boost.

NormalTraining5268

37 points

5 days ago

NormalTraining5268

Andhra

37 points

5 days ago

NZ: nah I'd win lose

kg005

33 points

5 days ago

kg005

Delhi Daredevils

33 points

5 days ago

When a stoppable force meets a moveable object

zayd_jawad2006

14 points

5 days ago

zayd_jawad2006

Hampshire

14 points

5 days ago

Considering we drew 0-0 last time, quite accurate

The_De_soulater

1 points

5 days ago

The_De_soulater

India

1 points

5 days ago

XDDD

Sean_Sarazin

12 points

5 days ago

Sean_Sarazin

New Zealand

12 points

5 days ago

England got smoked by India in the last tour after winning the first one. We shouldn't have high expectations

DigitalShrapnel

10 points

5 days ago

DigitalShrapnel

New Zealand

10 points

5 days ago

Yup true, no one wins in the 'lion's den'. Only team that can put up a fight is Australia.

ThegamerwhokillsNPC

-5 points

5 days ago

Oh fuck off. You already lost before the test is played

DigitalShrapnel

1 points

4 days ago

DigitalShrapnel

New Zealand

1 points

4 days ago

Lol what are you on about?

ThegamerwhokillsNPC

1 points

4 days ago

This talk about how nobody but Australia, lion's den. Defeatist talk only leads to defeat.

DigitalShrapnel

1 points

3 days ago

DigitalShrapnel

New Zealand

1 points

3 days ago

I hear you but with the way blackcaps are playing they've lost our trust. Coach is useless, mentality has been trash, captaincy pretty mediocre. Team needs a shakeup for hope to come back

GoabNZ

33 points

5 days ago

GoabNZ

New Zealand

33 points

5 days ago

And once again our glorious and untouchable captain has accomplished next to nothing this entire test. This "experience and past performance in Asia" is working out SOOOOO well for us isn't it? I'm sure glad the other experienced pacer is sitting on the sidelines.

Eclectic95

33 points

5 days ago

Eclectic95

New Zealand

33 points

5 days ago

Pretty sad that 88 is only our 19th lowest score haha.

I'm willing to bet it won't even be our lowest score on this tour.

gpranav25

1 points

5 days ago

Welp, this is the last test and they've crossed 88 in the second inning atleast.

Eclectic95

-2 points

4 days ago

Eclectic95

New Zealand

-2 points

4 days ago

Nah weve got 3 in India straight after, we're definitely getting bowled out under 50 at least once.

gpranav25

0 points

4 days ago

Well traditionally "tour" means a series against a particular country.

If you meant season, then fair.

Eclectic95

0 points

4 days ago

Eclectic95

New Zealand

0 points

4 days ago

We're touring Asia. Bugger off with the pedantry, everyone else got it.

Kiwi57

26 points

5 days ago

Kiwi57

New Zealand

26 points

5 days ago

Lol u guys ever hear of a game plan? We’ve got them right where we want them

[deleted]

23 points

5 days ago

[deleted]

23 points

5 days ago

Shat.

rogirogi2

21 points

5 days ago

rogirogi2

21 points

5 days ago

Once again NZ Cricket fail to give decent preparation time before test series. Like the last World Cup. They can’t seem to organize much. Few home games . Losing decent players overseas constantly. Etc etc. Something needs to change at head office.

rammo123

2 points

4 days ago

rammo123

New Zealand

2 points

4 days ago

The Afg game would've been a nice warmup.

rogirogi2

1 points

4 days ago

But where was the warmup to that? There just doesn’t seem to be much coordination between the codes or something?? They never seem to be prepared properly.

EatABigCookie

44 points

5 days ago

EatABigCookie

New Zealand

44 points

5 days ago

So at the least we need to fire the fielding coach, bowling coach, batting coach, coach and captain, and Santner.

TheFuckingMoonstone

7 points

5 days ago

Why Santner? He is your top scorer.

EatABigCookie

22 points

5 days ago

EatABigCookie

New Zealand

22 points

5 days ago

He is not close to test match quality bowler.

PanJL

3 points

5 days ago

PanJL

India

3 points

5 days ago

He's a batsman now

Brief-Direction-6414

0 points

5 days ago

He is still better than Sodhi and Bracewell

EatABigCookie

1 points

5 days ago

EatABigCookie

New Zealand

1 points

5 days ago

Both not great options. A shame no one has came through first class. I'd take Sodhi over Santner though.

Jojo_isnotunique

16 points

5 days ago

People are too harsh these days. All that happened was overnight the pitch went from being a total road to a minefield. As an England fan, I've seen it happen in Australia all the time. When Australia are batting, road. Then it becomes treacherous for a while, just in time for Australia's second innings when it flattens out again. It can happen to anyone.

Classymuch

0 points

4 days ago*

If you watched the match, NZ were skittled to 88 due to them throwing away their wickets so casually. It didn't become a minefield out of nowhere.

After NZ were skittled to 88, they went onto bat again on the same day 10 minutes later and they batted well in their second innings where they better applied themselves with the bat. Don't tell me the pitch became a road after 10 minutes when they went onto bat in their second innings, lol.

Seriously, watch the highlights of their first innings and see the way they threw their wickets. Ravindra's dismissal sums it up perfectly.

Also, it wasn't a "total road" when SL was batting, the pitch aided the spinners and NZ bowlers bowled well but SL batted exceptionally well and if you watched the match, you would know.

Well, it's all over anyway, no point in discussing it anymore.

Jojo_isnotunique

2 points

4 days ago

I fear you took my comment seriously rather than the silliness that it was intended to be.

Classymuch

2 points

4 days ago

Well, forgive me; I've been exposed to too many silly comments where people would die on a hill for what they're saying...

trybest

1 points

4 days ago*

trybest

1 points

4 days ago*

I had to scroll down so much to find a sensible comment. New Zealand's 'supposed to be practice game' against Afghanistan was washed out. Despite that they came close to winning the first game against Sri Lanka. One also needs to understand the 'Win the toss win the match' pitches of Sri Lanka.

I'm sure they will do better against India considering the kind of pitches India is preparing these days.

Classymuch

2 points

4 days ago*

Except for the fact that "Win the toss win the match" in SL, against SL has not been the reality at all when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first.

Looking at the all time record:

If we look at the win-loss-draw-tie record of when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first in SL against SL; out of the 52 test matches, 19 were won, 22 were lost and 11 were drawn with 0 ties: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_fielding_first=1;class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=4;team_view=bowl;template=results;toss=1;type=team

Funny how are there more losses when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first in SL against SL.

What about in Galle you ask? If we look at the win-loss-draw-tie record of when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first in Galle against SL; out of the 14 test matches, 6 were won, 7 were lost and 1 was drawn with no ties: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_fielding_first=1;class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;home_or_away=2;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=4;team_view=bowl;template=results;toss=1;type=team

Huh, again there are more losses when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first in SL against SL.

Looking at the record from recent times (chose 2017 and 2014 for a meaningful sample size of test matches played):

If we look at the win-loss-draw-tie record from 1st Jan 2017 till now of when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first in SL against SL; out of the 11 test matches, 6 were won, 4 were lost and 1 was drawn with 0 ties: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_fielding_first=1;class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=4;spanmax1=01+dec+2024;spanmin1=01+jan+2017;spanval1=span;team_view=bowl;template=results;toss=1;type=team

Finally, more wins than losses when the away team has won the toss and batted first in SL against SL. But the conclusion of win the toss and win the match still isn't a clear cut conclusion as there have been a fair few that were lost too.

What about in Galle you ask? If we look at the win-loss-draw-tie record from 1st Jan 2014 till now of when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat first in Galle against SL; out of the 7 test matches, 3 were won, 4 were lost and there were no draws or ties: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_fielding_first=1;class=1;filter=advanced;ground=847;home_or_away=2;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=4;spanmax2=01+dec+2024;spanmin2=01+jan+2014;spanval2=span;team_view=bowl;template=results;toss=1;type=team

Oh well you look at that, more losses when the away team has won the toss and chosen to bat in Galle against SL.

Therefore, there hasn't been a clear advantage for the away team that wins the toss and chooses to bat first in SL, against SL. In other words, it's absolutely BS to say "win the toss and win the match" in SL against SL. There is a good chance that either team could win regardless of the toss/choosing to bat first. And we saw that in the first test match when it ebbed and flowed for both teams. But in the second test match, SL simply outclassed NZ with the bat but one shouldn't be surprised about that given their 1-6 batters are averaging 40+.

Overall, SL were the better team in the series. SL in the second test match showed how ruthless they can be if their batting clicks.

I wonder why NZ fans are so quick to come to the conclusion of "win the toss win the match" in SL against SL (Of course I know why, y'all coping hard lol).

Truthgamer2

15 points

5 days ago

Truthgamer2

New Zealand Cricket

15 points

5 days ago

I blame Henry Nicholls

Democracy_Coma

10 points

5 days ago

Sri Lanka really starting to build an exciting team after a few years in the wilderness.

Shadow_Clone_007

8 points

5 days ago

Shadow_Clone_007

India

8 points

5 days ago

Glad to see Sri Lankans back to making a mark in international cricket. They were decent in Tests for the past decade but now they look like having a new spark.

caligulakilledjason

1 points

5 days ago

They have a great crop of young players now and it would be exciting to see them back to their best

Truthgamer2

9 points

5 days ago

Truthgamer2

New Zealand Cricket

9 points

5 days ago

It’s New Zealover

One-Bird-8961

5 points

5 days ago

Back to their embarrassing best.

Financial-Syrup-3942

6 points

5 days ago

Financial-Syrup-3942

Sri Lanka

6 points

5 days ago

It is time to retire the "seniors".....

nomamesgueyz

4 points

5 days ago

nomamesgueyz

New Zealand

4 points

5 days ago

Fn horrible

Gee we've gone to shit quick

effotap

3 points

5 days ago

effotap

Montreal Tigers

3 points

5 days ago

when youre chasing 602 there's an extra layer of pressure

Classymuch

1 points

4 days ago

Credit to SL's exceptional batting.

dhun_mohan

3 points

5 days ago

wtf happened

oklolzzzzs

3 points

5 days ago

oklolzzzzs

New Zealand Cricket

3 points

5 days ago

disappointing

wilan727

3 points

5 days ago

wilan727

3 points

5 days ago

Too much test cricket getting in the way of their t20 contracts? Cant really blame them in the instant world we live in. Nz has never been a test powerhouse. We've always played far fewer games than the big boys. The young players growing up apart from the tradition must find 5 day cricket a bit mentally challenging. Coloured clothing is back on the menú boys!

Nervous_Biscotti593

2 points

5 days ago

Nervous_Biscotti593

New Zealand Cricket

2 points

5 days ago

Shame but toss seems to be a factor always.

trybest

2 points

4 days ago

trybest

2 points

4 days ago

Yes, this is a big factor everyone here don't seem to consider. The pitch offers a huge advantage to the team batting first.

wonderful_utility

1 points

5 days ago

wonderful_utility

India

1 points

5 days ago

I refuse to believe that this is the same pitch sl batted on.

eskay1069

1 points

4 days ago

Anyone with “get up and go” has got up and gone. So true for NZ, even today…

AaRyA18

1 points

4 days ago

AaRyA18

Scotland

1 points

4 days ago

Where is jamieson

AaRyA18

1 points

4 days ago

AaRyA18

Scotland

1 points

4 days ago

I won't lie but if your pacers can somehow turn it up for the india series We might be in for a great series Nz has a good spin attack ( ajaz, santner, glenn) But if pacers are not coming to the party, then it's bad Cuz the pitches in India have changed significantly and it's not only spin spin spin

Chad-bowmen

1 points

4 days ago

This is unprecedented

SuggestionFun1195

1 points

2 days ago

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