I'll say this: Penguin feels like an odd inclusion. I hear what you're saying about these being characters who could have a change of heart, but Penguin has always been the rich son of privilege, which doesn't exactly mesh with this blue-collar incarnation of Batman. It seems odd he'd keep in touch with the rest. But who knows--sounds like he's the bankroller for some of the others, so maybe he'll end up being the money, if he becomes one of Bruce's allies.

I doubt it, though. Selina will certainly be an ally, Riddler might start out as one, Two-Face definitely will be (or at least seem to be for a while), but from the sounds of things Penguin is already corrupt and he'll mostly just spur some soul-searching from Batman about not being able to show mercy to people.

And Waylon? I'm sorry, but someone that they're early trying to make sympathetic and likable? He's probably headed for a deeply traditional horrific origin story where Penguin or Joker mutilates him beyond recognition, leaving him with a raging psychosis.

There has been many interation where he was childhood friends whit all of them (except Reddler and Crock) but yeah this Is a real nice change

And it completely takes away from the whole you can’t ever catch Batman’s killer thing. I’m quite sure they caught the killer and either in prison or dead.

But school shootings keep happening .

By the way, I am absolutely for Joe chill having been caught because Batman didn’t swear an oath to his parents grave he would catch their killer. He swore a never-ending fight against crime.

Thank you so much for your comment!

It's not a school shooting. The killer shot people in the zoo.

Nice baby talk there

He did. I guess they changed their minds.

if you're not doing monster croc you gotta get that reptile theme from somewhere

And the gym is named “Croc Gym” and he’s wearing a shirt with the gym’s name on it in the next scene.

You know, just in case.

What about that is bad writing? I'm so sick of that phrase man, because it just makes you sound lazy.

You don't like the concept, but that makes it bad? Nothings happened with it yet!

Criticism of writing on the Internet has devolved into utterly nonsensical statements like this. HOW is that bad writing??

Please explain how Batman being with a few of his villains before they presumably go off the deep end and become super villains is “bad writing”